End L$ Farming

We want Lindens to give the normal person a swing at this game with out having to compete with sweat shops who have several computers sitting on camping chairs. Were not asking to stop money chairs. Were asking for a NON-Sweatshop Server. Create a server for people who want to play fair. Stop the sweatshop money farms, wether it be Germany, China, Japan,South America, we want to be able to make some money on SL with out having to compete with these other "companies" that are making the ability to make money on SL obsolete.

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This is a joke, right?

Sounds like to me that you're upset that you can't find a place to camp to make some L. Ya know, there are OTHER ways to make money in SL instead of handouts. Like actually EARNING your L$ like the rest of us before the money chair fad. Learn to use the building editor and/or LSL to make something to sell. Its not that hard to learn something new. Hell if you have to you can always be a dancer (exotic or non-exotic (yes they exist)), an event host, a game host (games like SLingo & Tringo), a sales associate, a DJ, an escort.. there are tons of things you can do besides sitting in a chair all day.

Also a side note, most likely the people you are seeing are NOT farming. Its really pointless to create a dozen alts to camp an area for L$3 ever 10 mins when it costs USD$10 to create an alt. Most of these people are people like you looking for easy money and sniped themselves a chair. The idea of a camp farming sounds like something those people who blame the decrease of the L$ value on people who enter the game just to sell their camp money on the LindeX.

I personally dont sit on the chairs. I do have them in my casino. I have no bad feelings about the chairs its when you abouse them like the sweatshops that one guy has 30 alts and just sits on the chairs. That is what we have a problem with. Is this a joke? You tell me. This is not on here to argue any points. Speak your minds and let it out. Let lindens know how you feel. If the majority of you feel that you dont mind these sweatshops corrupting our game and you dont want separate servers for these countries. Then be my guest and post your opinion here. This is for people to know what the majority feels.

P.S. - Let me know if you still think its a joke in two years. Or will there be another game the sweat shops will be milking?

In 5 years down the road I want SL to be like the internet was 10 years ago. But if we continue to let these people ruin the game economy we wont see this. When you play the game does it feel like youre in CyberSpace the way it was dreamed? Not typing URLS like the internet. but actually walking through the internet. Lets save this genre breaking game and voice our opinions. Vote for Separate Servers for Known Sweatshop countries.

Speak with a customer rep from Anshe When you want to buy linden or IGA(same company as VIP TEAM) Tell me where they are from. They dont make L$ like you and I do. Guys these are sugestions to open your minds to the future of SL. Let us mold it to what we think it should be. We are in essence The Forefathers of SL. Lets make a grat living world for our grandchildren.( RL or SL )

Why the hell not?
Then you're part of the problem.
Then get rid of your money chairs and quit ruining the game economy.

in order to 'farm' you have to introduce new money into the economy that was not there previously, as in say wow where every time you kill an orc, another 5 silver is added in to the game... SL thats not analagous. they're taking YOUR money, whether you give them that or not is your decision. It does not impact the 'world' economy at all. If they sell it on lindex, or you sell it on lindex, the economy doesn care at all.

If its not 'profitable' or productive to give people money in camping chairs (now that DI is dead), just remove them and use the money yourself. Problem solved.

... I still don't understand why all these people are whinging about dropping a huge, paycheck-shattering US$10 and having a little fun.

$2000 computer.
$60/mo broadband.
Free client.

"WHAT? YOU WANT ME TO -PAY- TO BUY L$1000? ($3.50) OH MY GOD THIS PLACE -SUCKS-! NOT EVERYONE IS MADE OF MONEY YOU KNOW! WHY SHOULD I SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING I CAN'T KEEP OR HOLD OR HAVE?"

(complainer goes off to spend $40 on beer and pizza.)

yeah. take your three fiddy and go home. Camping chairs. -Come on- people.

ooh and as to buying and selling... Use the lindex... No other system out there is easier, faster, or will give you a better rate to buy from or sell to. In fact some of the other 'systems' essentially make a profit from staking peoples money for alot less than its worth and *SELLING* it on the lindex themselves.

Money Chairs are pretty much inevitable, as long as Find Places is sorted by traffic.

A high-ranking classified can easily cost a few thousand L$ per week - getting a high rank on both Popular Places and Find is probably worth more, and camping chairs are the easiest way to do it.

The business about buying L$ doesn't matter, I can still make more L$ if I camp than if I don't, even if I buy L$ as well. If I camp only when I'm not at the computer, I'm not losing any "fun time" either.

Step 3... PROFIT!

Wait, no, wrong meme.

make a profit from staking peoples money for alot less than its worth and *SELLING* it on the lindex themselves.

It's called Arbitrage and it's an important role to balance out the markets. Without it, trade imbalances would cause economic inefficiencies. Arbitrage trading ensures all the Linden markets will track each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage

its not arbitage if you are the one who runs the market, as is the case for the people doing this, irs more like profiteering. They set their own market value, arbitrarily, its not 'market driven' they choose the price, which is higher than they can sell on lindex for, and they just wait for people to hand money over to them who have been *told* by the very same person that it is the best and safest and fastest way, and don't pay attentin to all the other currency exchanges behind the curtain. Not everyone falls for it, but more than enough to do pull in a tidy profit and tank your competition (the lindex) at the same time

ACS employees enjoy the regulated working hours, full social benefits package and receive intensive training in advanced content creation and customer support. The other two China based SL business I am aware of, Kawai and IGE, also provide state of the art content creation and financial service. I have yet to meet one single Chinese on camping chair!

Please be so kind and give people in developing countries the break. How many SL worker from so call "developed country" have to spend 100+ hour per week in SL to survive? How many don't even have the medical health insurance? The sweatshop is everywhere, including the basement of your own neighbour!

I do apologize if any one takes this as a racial post. Its not about race. I only ask that servers be put in countries that are known to have these sweatshops on a different server.

Anshe I used your services when I was new and I had a great experience. No complaints from me. And it was speedy. If your employees create and sell then I applaud you for your honest hard working ethic.

I am speaking about companies that donot have this mindset. They would rather make money the easy way at our cost.

Poodle: the idea that someone operating camping chairs has the audacity to complain about someone abusing their own abusive scheme is... mind-boggling.

What is wrong with owning camping chairs? Please enlighten us.

Camping chairs increase the costs of operating SL, reduce the performance of SL for other landowners on the same sim, destroyed the DI, warp the traffic reports, steal dwell that was supposed to reward people to provided attractions for paying users, and are basically doing to Linden Labs everything that you're complaining that "sweatshop campers" are doing to you.

I always thought camping chairs were silly. I mean, given how much the average camping chair actually gives out, you probably spend as much or more real world money simply running your computer. It's already been pointed out how much USD will get you in L$.

I threw $10 at my account a couple of months ago, and I'm still only a little more than a third of the way through what that got me (L$2800 in case you're curious). So, yeah, $10 keeps me sitting pretty in L$ for 3-4 months, I can live with that, without having my electric bill go up because I've left my computer running all night just to camp in a moneychair.

Plus, this same camping chair thing seems to artificially drive up the dwelling rank for places. Personally, I'd rather spend my time in a well built sim with no camping chairs and have landowners be more creative and interesting in their attempts to get people on their land.

I saw that it was 4 cents an hour to opperate a computer.
4 cents is just barely over L$11.
That means that a L$1 per 5 minute money chair (L$12 an hour) MAKES money.

Please tell me you were giggling a lot while typing that. Because I giggled a lot while reading it.

I suppose I should elaborate, on the slim chance you weren't being humourous.

I see no reason to dout that it costs 4 cents an hour to run your computer, while giving you a L$1 profit per hour. But look at what you're suggestion. Camping earns you L$1 an hour, that's L$24 a day if you leave your computer on that long. That's what? A a little less than 10 cents a day?

For this, well built and interesting sims lose dwelling ranking and SL winds up being a far less interesting than if creativity and a desire to create new and exciting content for SL drove landowners.

A little less than ten cents a day.

Hehe. I have a creative use for camping.

Here's some figures.

I'm paying out about $1600L per day.
I receive about $200L per day in dwell.
The difference comes from my RL income via lindex.

How does that affect the market?

Now I could buy a sim for the same $US, but this seems more entertaining.

I don't know about the market, but you're ripping off people who are trying to use dwell to offset the cost of attractive builds.

If you don't like guys sitttin on the chairs - don't put chairs out - seems a no-brainer to me.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I think my place is very attractive. Before you get the wrong idea I don't have "Camping chairs". What I have is evolving into a paid performer system where the "Performers" get payed more based on how many audience members they attract.

I wonder where the dividing line between "camping" and paying actors to put on a show is?

PS: Warning! Do not look up my site if you are easily offended.
My site is an experiment and is not to be confused with my personal sexual preferences.