sl-escorts.com

I'm sure they can join the site and post their own account. Bear in mind we can't accept slander or libel for either party.

Edited my Posts cause i didnt want to defame someone which isnt respodible for what is written on the Page

BTW, as you can all see where I stand on this issue. I will say this in closing.

I simply disagree. Especially since we're talking about a virtual everything. Virtual escort, virtual customer, virtual money and virtual identities. No privacy is really broken, and I still believe reviews are withing the right of the customer.

First .. it's not my site. Second, you're just talking about 'what-ifs', so what of a meteor fell on your house? That ridiculous what-if of mine has about as much pertanence as your waht-if.

People review all sorts of products whose creators retain control of IP rights. The site does not take away your IP property, it just rates your performance of said IP rights.

AND it's on a 3rd party site, so it breaks NO SL rules.

Just can't get away from that little point no matter how much you equivocate.

If you were offering escort services to yourself, all alone, I may agree. However, it's not entirely private is it? There's at least one other person present during these transactions. What if the other person doesn't want to exercise his right to privacy concerning what the 2 of you did together?

You can't force the second party to silence unless you have them sign a non-disclosement contract.

Jesse,

I have recieved several complaints from the people who advertise on the site that you have contacted them directly to request they stop advertising. No one appreciates the harrassement and as such an abuse report is being filled. If you have any concerns with the business' who chose to expose their ads to large amounts of traffic, then please contact me directly as I am facilitating all transactions. The advertising section on the site is not run by the site owner, but rather an out sourced business. Please try to keep this in mind.



I therefore ask that you also respect peoples privacy, and allow them to advertise were they wish, without fear of threats or harassment coming from a club owner.

*MY GOD* I love it when people go on crazy one-man righteous quests and rants!

I sincerely hope you don't give this up. Please post about all the people you've banned and reported for doing something completely within their rights to do as you attempt to make every bend to your will.

It really makes my day to read this stuff at work.

First of all, I want to give serious props to Jesse and Nas for looking out for me, my girlfriend, and all the other ladies (and a few gentlemen, too), who make their home at Bad Girls.


Secondly, I have a question for the owners and maintainers of the site. (I'm not naming names due to some serious ambiguity as to who on this thread is actually associated with the site and who's just a supporter, though I sense there's probably some overlap.)


So, since you've got profiles of a few of my coworkers up there, and anyone can comment to review an escort would it be within my rights to go right ahead and post a comment of my own about them? What kind of comment screening is in place?
If the comments I wound up posting made it clear that their profiles were posted without that girl's (or guy's) permission, would you take my comment down?

And my follow-up:
If you'd take my comment down on your own whim, it's still removing content from your site. Is it honestly any different in principle than removing an entire profile? Soon everyone will want comment filters.

This, and all that follows, are my own personal opinion, and you're welcome to ignore or read at your leisure.
I first heard of this website back when there were only five or so reviews posted and it was one man's blog. This was long before I got into escorting. I thought maybe it wasn't the worst idea I'd ever heard, but it's come a way since then, and not in the direction I would have hoped.
I might have thought this was a good service, if it was opt-in AND if the girls were told, albeit after the session, that they were reviewed.

IE - A girl (or a guy, of course) submits their profile to sl-escorts.com. Sometime within the next two weeks, one of a panel of trusted reviewers comes to their place of business and hires them, not letting on then that they are the reviewer. A half-hour, an hour, three hours passes, however long it ends up being. Afterwards, the reviewer tells the girl that he (or she, depending how tastes run) works for sl-escorts.com, and then asks her permission to post any snippets from the log or use any snapshots she may have posted in her infocard or that may have been taken during the session.

This is just my suggestion, of course. I wouldn't have a problem with the site if the business procedures were more honest and a girl COULD opt-out. (If you offer a good enough service, customers may decide any girl on it might not be worth their time, which would offer girls an incentive to come to you, instead of you going to them without permission.)

Vannevar,

I think this is a good set up and I have been lobbying for a similar set up since my profile was posted. I am confident that the site will be moving into this direction, albiet, slower then I would like.

But Jesse is not a ONE MAN RANT...Do I need to point out that Jereon and his bootlicks have been banned from the 5 most popular clubs in SL? All of whom keep track of the numerous alts and recruits that he continually tosses into the breach, regardless of how many times they have been asked to cease and desist.

If you KNOW you are banned from an establishment, yet you continue to create alts and slither back in..is that a "Public Service" or harrasment?

Coincidentally, the brainiacs behind this pathetic venture have never stopped long enough to think this through. Escorts are likely the most viable advertising medium that skin/animation/club owners could ever ask for. Heres why...

1. They are gainfully employed. Many make 10 times the weekly stipend. And most spend every $L of it on clothes, skins and animations.

2. Escorts depend on their appearance and creativity to attract customers. Most have an inventory full of skins and seductive clothing They keep up with trends and the latest products. They spend a good portion of their time naked, so their skin is a billboard.

3. They frequent the most popular clubs where they are welcome. Thats where their customers are. They recommend these clubs to their protege's, friends and newcomers.

4. A high percentage of Escorts belong to Groups, whom use Group channels for casual convo. When they speak in channel they are heard by dozens of other Escorts. This is an expontential factor when applied to Club Groups. If a customer is less than courteous they ALL know. If a customer doesnt pay they ALL know. Thats the beauty of a Group.
While many Escorts are freelance they tend to gravitate to peers who do belong to groups, with diverse opinions and interests. One Escort can come in contact with literally HUNDREDS of members in the course of a week. They are very public and very vocal.

5. Most Club Owners communicate with each other. They stick up for their employee's and friends. Most Clubs offer ad space to merchants. Most clubs have a large group following. Not mindless Zombies, but compassionate people who have concern for others feelings and wishes. If they didnt, they would'nt belong to a Group very long. At least not any of our Groups.

Now I ask you, would YOU advertise on a site that is SURE to bring controversy to your product or service, just by mere association? Are YOU that desperate for exposure that you would subsidize a venture that is hell-bent on getting reviews at any cost? I reiterate, you are judged by your associations. Its a fact of life. I would love to hear from some of their advertisers as to how they feel about the sites practices. I am willing to bet most are oblivious.

No matter which side you weigh in on...abuse or not...violation of privacy or not...these "reviewers" have no concern for their fellow players wishes not to be associated with them. Their "gestapo" tactics have gotten them banned from most everywhere they frequent. They treat it as a game to infiltrate where they are not welcome. And they will continue to be banned on all of my lands as well.

So Jesse is not alone I wholeheartedly assure you Jellin.

Kirkmegna, you started this thread soliciting suggestions....

Here's one for you...

"Hi <insert escort name> I am with sl-escorts.com, would you mind if I did a review of your service?

Once again, I agree entirely with this suggestion and have passed it along to the site administration. I fully believe anyone who is a designated reviewer on the site should abide by this practice. The issues arrises, however that currently anyone can post a review... it doesnt have to be some one "with" the site.

Since this seems somehow directed to me ...

If I provided a product or service, would I advertise on a site that provided reviews aboout said service or product? If my service or product were of such quality that reviews would be good .. Yes!

Having said that, I do not subsidize or have any association with the site, I merely think it provides a service to those in search of a service. Nor am I 'desperate' for exposure. I doubt more than 10 people even remember who I am.

I think it's a good idea if you're looking for an escort and want to know you're going to get your money's worth. So fiddly dee fi to whether or not I'm 'judged' by the fact I think the site's just fine and not a TOS violation.

As far as saying they use 'gestapo' tactics ... well that's just crazytalk.

Also, if you tell an establishment beforehand that you're going to review their performance, well, the performance you get isn't going to be the 'average' performance the AV on the street would get, is it?

I'm locking his thread for review by LL for possible instances of invasion of privacy, trolling and violation of the rules dictating ethical research in SL.

Research Ethics in Second Life


Torley Linden writes:
There was some interesting discussion. Unfortunately, there've also been inflammatory comments made, as well as things best taken to private channels or inworld, including the mature acts themselves. From the Guidelines:
This thread remains closed.