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Sheraka Sirnah
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08-03-2008 02:58
Dear Residents Sheraka is a role play character, being set up to explore and educate about Gor in Second Life (ALT of Maggie). I will travel as a scribe through Gor and write about EVERY City and what is really going on there. Its history, culture, architecture and about SL community playing there - the stories and the people. The first articles will be about the abckstory of Sheraka followed by a visit to Tyros, Port Khar and other nearby regions.....The story is set up in a way that anything can happen. Not even the role is written in Stone. The story shall develop itself in accordance to Gorean tradition and culture If you want to follow the story: http://sheraka.comComments from goreans and non goreans very welcome Regards Maggie Warning: Depending on how the story develops, it may contain explicit sexual language, explicit pictures of sex scenes and violence including reports about role play on rape, torture and assasiantions. If you disapprove such content don't come its not for you then. Gor is not in accordance of christian standards of moral and ethics , Gor is Gor.
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Ralektra Breda
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08-03-2008 04:08
sounds very interesting but I couldn't connect to the page 
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-03-2008 04:24
From: Sheraka Sirnah Dear Residents Sheraka is a role play character, being set up to explore and educate about Gor in Second Life (ALT of Maggie). I will travel as a scribe through Gor and write about EVERY City and what is really going on there. Its history, culture, architecture and about SL community playing there - the stories and the people. The first articles will be about the abckstory of Sheraka followed by a visit to Tyros, Port Khar and other nearby regions.....The story is set up in a way that anything can happen. Not even the role is written in Stone. The story shall develop itself in accordance to Gorean tradition and culture If you want to follow the story: http://sheraka.com Comments from goreans and non goreans very welcome Regards Maggie Warning: Depending on how the story develops, it may contain explicit sexual language, explicit pictures of sex scenes and violence including reports about role play on rape, torture and assasiantions. If you disapprove such content don't come its not for you then. Gor is not in accordance of christian standards of moral and ethics , Gor is Gor. So what's your question? Pep (If Gor is the answer it must be a pretty dumb question)
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Denise Bonetto
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08-03-2008 05:40
Just the cities? That would only show city life and more interesting charactors and happenings can be found out in the camps etc.
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Imogen Saltair
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08-03-2008 05:48
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (If Gor is the answer it must be a pretty dumb question)
I think that was uncalled for. I am not particularly enamored of Gor, but many people are. The watchword of the BDSM lifestyle is tolerance. Shame others don't have this attitude. imogen
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Ralektra Breda
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08-03-2008 05:50
From: Imogen Saltair I think that was uncalled for.
I am not particularly enamored of Gor, but many people are. The watchword of the BDSM lifestyle is tolerance. Shame others don't have this attitude.
imogen agree. while it isn't my cup of tea, I am interested in learning more about it, and if I'm weren't I just wouldn't go to the site.
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Colette Meiji
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08-03-2008 07:32
There are people into Gor in Second Life?
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Maureen Boccaccio
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08-03-2008 07:40
I could not open the link, either... 
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-03-2008 07:41
From: Imogen Saltair I think that was uncalled for. I am not particularly enamored of Gor, but many people are. The watchword of the BDSM lifestyle is tolerance. Shame others don't have this attitude. imogen Perhaps you should investigate it further, say by looking at the Gorean Public Board forums; Gor is NOT about BDSM! It is actually the most hateful form of male chauvinism I have ever come across. The SL roleplay version of Gorean pseudo-culture is disparaged by those who rl lifestyle it. Personally, I despise ANY form of slavery, role played or otherwise, but the underlying Gor philosophy refuses to acknowledge females except as slaves, which takes the attitude to an unacceptable degree, in my view. My tolerance stops short of females being considered in rl to have no rights. Pep (I don't want to start an argument, honestly; just bringing a little illumination to a dark subject)
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Brann Georgia
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08-03-2008 08:00
From: Pserendipity Daniels It is actually the most hateful form of male chauvinism I have ever come across. I thought it was an extreme form of misogyny allowing people to act out urges that they'd never dare in RL. Could be a relatively safe outlet for hen-pecked husbands. What does interest me about the subject is to find out what makes women (RL women, not the cross dressers) join that particular interest group. Now there's a survey I'd like to see 
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Abba Thiebaud
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08-03-2008 08:10
From: Pserendipity Daniels Perhaps you should investigate it further, say by looking at the Gorean Public Board forums; Gor is NOT about BDSM! It is actually the most hateful form of male chauvinism I have ever come across. The SL roleplay version of Gorean pseudo-culture is disparaged by those who rl lifestyle it. Personally, I despise ANY form of slavery, role played or otherwise, but the underlying Gor philosophy refuses to acknowledge females except as slaves, which takes the attitude to an unacceptable degree, in my view. My tolerance stops short of females being considered in rl to have no rights. Pep (I don't want to start an argument, honestly; just bringing a little illumination to a dark subject) And a bigger flashlight shows that Free Women aren't treated as slaves unless they allow themselves to be captured. They are treated as Free Women. And is it slavery really when a person CHOOSES to submit themselves to someone else? Slavery as known by the African in the 1800's is completely different. They did not choose such a lifestyle. Are you choosing to be a slave of your boss? Sure he pays you, but you have to do what he says or else face discipline, no? Please, before you pass blanket judgment again, read the novels. If nothing else, remember, a closed mouth gathers no feet. A ETA: And to the OP, there is a forum for Resident Websites. Please use that to advertise your blog. That's what it's there for.
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Brann Georgia
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08-03-2008 08:15
From: Abba Thiebaud If nothing else, remember, a closed mouth gathers no feet.
I'm pretty sure that we agreed that this is a public forum and that opinions contrary to those of others are allowed, be they right or wrong, or believed to be right or wrong. After all: From: Sheraka Sirnah Comments from goreans and non goreans very welcome
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Govindira Galatea
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08-03-2008 08:29
From: Abba Thiebaud And a bigger flashlight shows that Free Women aren't treated as slaves unless they allow themselves to be captured. They are treated as Free Women. And is it slavery really when a person CHOOSES to submit themselves to someone else? I often heard words in Gorean lands in SL to this effect: All Free Women are slaves in waiting. The idea being that a Free woman would only truly realize full womanhood by being enslaved. The portions of the books that I have skimmed are full of this notion. I find the notion of women-as-slaves to be totally unacceptable, repulsive, and nauseating. Fortunately, it's mere roleplay in SL, consent always being required. That makes it only slightly less disgusting.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-03-2008 08:34
Oh please, people who engage in Gor do so voluntarily.
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Imogen Saltair
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08-03-2008 08:36
From: Pserendipity Daniels Perhaps you should investigate it further, say by looking at the Gorean Public Board forums; Gor is NOT about BDSM! It is actually the most hateful form of male chauvinism I have ever come across. The SL roleplay version of Gorean pseudo-culture is disparaged by those who rl lifestyle it. Personally, I despise ANY form of slavery, role played or otherwise, but the underlying Gor philosophy refuses to acknowledge females except as slaves, which takes the attitude to an unacceptable degree, in my view. My tolerance stops short of females being considered in rl to have no rights. Pep (I don't want to start an argument, honestly; just bringing a little illumination to a dark subject) /me sighs Sorry folks, didn't mean to start this hare all over again. I don't intend to add more fuel to the fire. Any further discussion between Pep and I will continue in IM. My point wasn't about gor, but about tolerance of others views and tastes. imogen
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Brenda Connolly
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08-03-2008 09:09
From: Ciaran Laval Oh please, people who engage in Gor do so voluntarily. Replace Gor with the SL activity of your choice. If we all remember it, I think we'd have less hand wringing and panty bunching in this forum.
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Chav Paderborn
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08-03-2008 09:09
From: Imogen Saltair I am not particularly enamored of Gor, but many people are. The watchword of the BDSM lifestyle is tolerance. Shame others don't have this attitude. NEWSFLASH: People are not legally required to "tolerate" to the point of pretending to agree with things they think are stupid/damaging/intolerant/etc. From: Abba Thiebaud And a bigger flashlight shows that Free Women aren't treated as slaves unless they allow themselves to be captured. They are treated as Free Women. And is it slavery really when a person CHOOSES to submit themselves to someone else? A freewoman is a slave in waiting and you know it. From: Ciaran Laval Oh please, people who engage in Gor do so voluntarily. No wai! PS to OP: Your webs*ite doesn't work.
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Sheraka Sirnah
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08-03-2008 09:14
Dear fellow Residents First of all the link might not work everywhere as its a new domain and the DNS settings to point to that host might not be completed yet. You may use this one: http://sherakasirnah.wordpress.comHope that works everywhere. As far as the everlasting argument about Gor: I will try to show what Gor in Second Life is REALLY all about. Not all woman on Gor are treated like slaves or like slaves to be. Every woman (and man!!) on Gor knows under what circumstances they can be enslaved. Their acts decide weather they are or not slaves. Slavery is on Gor something commonly accepted, part of live on gor. However its not all about slavery on Gor. You wil read also about: - society on Gor - wars between Cities - nature and how Goreans think about it One poster mentioned that he would like to see whats going on outside the cities. I will take that into account as well. Especially as the town where Sheraka is based is right on the Northern Forests, also a trip to the Schendi Jungles and the Southern dessert will be included. Its not about Gor being good or bad , its about whats going on their without any prejustice. Regards Maggie/Sheraka
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Sheraka Sirnah
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08-03-2008 09:20
From: Imogen Saltair I think that was uncalled for.
I am not particularly enamored of Gor, but many people are. The watchword of the BDSM lifestyle is tolerance. Shame others don't have this attitude.
imogen Gor has nothing to do with BDSM. Gor is a fictive society which shows how society could have developed if modern technology would not have changed it's course. But, yes you are right tolerance is the watchword Maggie
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Denise Bonetto
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08-03-2008 09:23
From: Chav Paderborn NEWSFLASH: People are not legally required to "tolerate" to the point of pretending to agree with things they think are stupid/damaging/intolerant/etc.
A freewoman is a slave in waiting and you know it.
No wai!
PS to OP: Your webs*ite doesn't work. SL Gor has more Free women than Free men or slaves. Are they awaiting the collar? you tell all the female panthers (the largest group in Gor) or mercs that. There is far more going on than men with their slaves, though that is the part most see first as they visit the cities which is a small part of the big picture. My alt is a FW of the nomadic wagon people, she will not be collared unless a forced collar via capture which is max 3 days but rescue normally happens within a few hours and forced collaring also happens to men in raids and capture.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-03-2008 09:27
From: Chav Paderborn NEWSFLASH: People are not legally required to "tolerate" to the point of pretending to agree with things they think are stupid/damaging/intolerant/etc.
No, but that mindset is what the PC police do try to foist upom us. We are being made to believe that we must accept everyone else's beliefs , lifestyles, etc, at the expense of our own, to even say we think differently marks us as intolerant. That's nonsense. Disagreeing makes you human. While we should respect each other as people, and have a Live and Let Live attitude, we don't have to agree with how others think or live their lives, nor should we be afraid to voice our differences of opinion in the proper ways.
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Chav Paderborn
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08-03-2008 09:28
From: Denise Bonetto SL Gor has more Free women than Free men or slaves. Are they awaiting the collar? Wow, it changed from being 95% slaves? When did this happen? And in Gorean "philosophy" yes, they are. They are awaiting their True Manly Master who is so manly that she will fall to her knees and beg to be enslaved. From: someone My alt is a FW of the nomadic wagon people, she will not be collared unless a forced collar via capture which is max 3 days but rescue normally happens within a few hours and forced collaring also happens to men in raids and capture. So basically she's a slave-in-waiting. I see.
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Sheraka Sirnah
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08-03-2008 09:30
From: Denise Bonetto SL Gor has more Free women than Free men or slaves. Are they awaiting the collar? you tell all the female panthers (the largest group in Gor) or mercs that.
There is far more going on than men with their slaves, though that is the part most see first as they visit the cities which is a small part of the big picture.
My alt is a FW of the nomadic wagon people, she will not be collared unless a forced collar via capture which is max 3 days but rescue normally happens within a few hours and forced collaring also happens to men in raids and capture. Hi Unfortunattly in Second Life some things are not really "played" goralistic. If you really live your character, then accepting time limit rules is not on. You are a captive or you are not. That is the difference between role play and gaming. Rescue raids are acceptable of course With regards to Panthers in the books : They do indeed run away from Gorean society, most ex-Kajiras. They are considered outlaws and subject to capture and enslavement at sight. Whats your caste? Maggie
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Chav Paderborn
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08-03-2008 09:30
From: Brenda Connolly No, but that mindset is what the PC police do try to foist upom us. We are being made to believe that we must accept everyone else's beliefs , lifestyles, etc, at the expense of our own, to even say we think differently marks us as intolerant. That's nonsense. Disagreeing makes you human. While we should respect each other as people, and have a Live and Let Live attitude, we don't have to agree with how others think or live their lives, nor should we be afraid to voice our differences of opinion in the proper ways. Can I just say how much I laughed at the idea that Goreans are now "PC police." I'm about as left as they get and I still don't pretend to agree with everything. To be honest in this case I think it's just an excuse to stop arguments being made against John Norman's misogynistic fantasies that other people like to roleplay. Gorean fandom is lolarious!
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Sheraka Sirnah
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08-03-2008 09:39
From: Chav Paderborn Wow, it changed from being 95% slaves? When did this happen?
And in Gorean "philosophy" yes, they are. They are awaiting their True Manly Master who is so manly that she will fall to her knees and beg to be enslaved.
This is some gorean mans philosophy and one of the most common missinterpretations of statements made by gorean men in the books. A Free woman who respects the gorean laws and traditions can not get enslaved easily. If she breaks the rules, the council of the city she lives in must be asked and ONLY the council can legally enslave her. Slavery on Gor is a penalty for crimes - penalty for men is more often the death penalty. A capture of a free woman from another city is an act of war and the warriors of her city will do everything possible to rescue her, at the risk of getting killed themselves. Regards Maggie Everybody can see that page here? http://sherakasirnah.wordpress.com/about/
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