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Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 01:00
From: Kris Ritter
Frankly, most of the threads here are a joke!

Good call. What about the ones that aren't a joke? How do we recognise them?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:03
From: Hiro Pendragon
Good call. What about the ones that aren't a joke? How do we recognise them?


Maybe we should have some sort of system of tagging subject lines?

Ya know, like that really really useful initiative to have all spammers prepend their subject lines with 'ADV:' so we know its an advertisement?
Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 01:05
From: Kris Ritter
Maybe we should have some sort of system of tagging subject lines?

Ya know, like that really really useful initiative to have all spammers prepend their subject lines with 'ADV:' so we know its an advertisement?

Good idea.

Do you think people would respect these tags?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:05
From: Hiro Pendragon
Good idea.

Do you think people would respect these tags?


Suuuuuure they would!

I shall, from now on, prepend all of mine with 'TROLL:'
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10-22-2004 01:08
From: Kris Ritter
Suuuuuure they would!

I shall, from now on, prepend all of mine with 'TROLL:'

Well my question would be, say, if someone were to prepend a thread with "civil" or "serious" or "no trolls", do you think it would be respected?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:22
From: Hiro Pendragon
Well my question would be, say, if someone were to prepend a thread with "civil" or "serious" or "no trolls", do you think it would be respected?


You might have to get more specific.

Maybe 'NO KRIS:' or 'KORGFREE:' or 'WILLOWGETTHEHELLAWAYFROMMYTHREADYOUGODDAMNEDFORUMWHORE:'
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Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 01:24
From: Kris Ritter
You might have to get more specific.

Maybe 'NO KRIS:' or 'KORGFREE:' or 'WILLOWGETTHEHELLAWAYFROMMYTHREADYOUGODDAMNEDFORUMWHORE:'

And that wouldn't have the opposite effect?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:27
From: Kris Ritter
You might have to get more specific.

Maybe 'NO KRIS:' or 'KORGFREE:' or 'WILLOWGETTHEHELLAWAYFROMMYTHREADYOUGODDAMNEDFORUMWHORE:'


I haf a kvestion.

Why is it that the above line auto inserts a space between forum and whore? (Well, it appears that way to me. I guess it does for the rest of ya?)

And why if I use caps from the first line of a post does it convert it to lower case but capitalise the first letter of every word so I look like an idiot instead of looking like I'm shouting?

Or to put it another way, LEAVE MY TEXT THE HELL ALONE! LEMME TYPE WHAT I WANNA TYPE!
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:30
From: Hiro Pendragon
And that wouldn't have the opposite effect?


Suuuuuure. I'd TOTALLY respect any thread that you started with the 'NOKRIS:' tag.

Though I'd be disappointed, of course.
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Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 01:40
From: Kris Ritter
Suuuuuure. I'd TOTALLY respect any thread that you started with the 'NOKRIS:' tag.

Though I'd be disappointed, of course.

So what if, in the middle of the thread, instead, it was tagged "NOKRIS" or "No troll", or even at the beginning "civil" or "no personal attacks"?

Do you think that would be respected?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 01:44
From: Hiro Pendragon
So what if, in the middle of the thread, instead, it was tagged "NOKRIS" or "No troll", or even at the beginning "civil" or "no personal attacks"?

Do you think that would be respected?


No. The tag has to be in plain view from the subject line. You don't expect me to read all the way through your thread before insulting you just to make sure there isn't a sneaky NOKRIS tag somewhere in there?
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Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 02:07
From: Kris Ritter
No. The tag has to be in plain view from the subject line. You don't expect me to read all the way through your thread before insulting you just to make sure there isn't a sneaky NOKRIS tag somewhere in there?

What if, for instance, "No trolling" was posted in a place say, in the forum rules, that apply to literally every single thread?

And then, since you've said Kris = Troll, by transitive property, the whole forum is "NOKRIS"?

Would you respect it then?
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 02:15
From: Hiro Pendragon
What if, for instance, "No trolling" was posted in a place say, in the forum rules, that apply to literally every single thread?


Well, it'd probably get ignored like most other rules here, huh? And then it'd get enforced in the same inconsistent way that the rest of the CS/ToS/Forum rules are now, depending on :

(a) Who whined
(b) Who they whined about
(c) Who they whined to

Which I have come to learn is FAR more important than

(d) WHAT they are whining about
Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 02:21
From: Kris Ritter
Well, it'd probably get ignored like most other rules here, huh? And then it'd get enforced in the same inconsistent way that the rest of the CS/ToS/Forum rules are now, depending on :

(a) Who whined
(b) Who they whined about
(c) Who they whined to

Which I have come to learn is FAR more important than

(d) WHAT they are whining about

So you'd rather make the problem worse by contributing to it? Lindens are overworked as it is.
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10-22-2004 02:24
I'd prefer to see a 'NOHIJACKING' tag. :)
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 02:27
From: Hiro Pendragon
So you'd rather make the problem worse by contributing to it? Lindens are overworked as it is.


Well I don't see anyone else exercising restraint? You think I should set an example while everyone else carries on as before? You think anyone is going to notice or even care?

I think if the Lindens were consistent or even logical in applying the rules, people might know what was acceptable and what wasnt. But while they play favorites and each Linden interprets and applies the rules differently, I don't think people will take much notice.
Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 02:32
From: Kris Ritter
Well I don't see anyone else exercising restraint? You think I should set an example while everyone else carries on as before? You think anyone is going to notice or even care?

I think if the Lindens were consistent or even logical in applying the rules, people might know what was acceptable and what wasnt. But while they play favorites and each Linden interprets and applies the rules differently, I don't think people will take much notice.

I don't care if you set an example or not. I just want you to stop adding to the problem. I don't care if anyone notices or cares. I just want you to stop being so damn bitter becoming the very thing you are saying you don't like. And the very fact that I'm asking you to stop is proof that at least one person is noticing, and I'm guessing a lot more do but don't want to get flamed by you by questioning your trolling.

That's mob mentality. If 10 people litter, and you throw your empty paper cup on the ground, it's still littering.
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Spider Mandala
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10-22-2004 02:33
From: Almarea Lumiere


NO MEN IN SECOND LIFE!!!

Lindens, I demand a response to this post immediately!



Actually I demand an immediate response from Linden Labs as well, namely banning Almarea Lumiere from Second Life for such a flagrant violation of the terms of service.

*EDIT* thread reported I encourage anyone of sound mind to do the same.
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Talen Morgan
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10-22-2004 04:08
From: Spider Mandala
Actually I demand an immediate response from Linden Labs as well, namely banning Almarea Lumiere from Second Life for such a flagrant violation of the terms of service.

*EDIT* thread reported I encourage anyone of sound mind to do the same.


Aww sounds like someone has a case of the asshats....
Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 04:24
From: Hiro Pendragon
I don't care if you set an example or not. I just want you to stop adding to the problem. I don't care if anyone notices or cares. I just want you to stop being so damn bitter becoming the very thing you are saying you don't like. And the very fact that I'm asking you to stop is proof that at least one person is noticing, and I'm guessing a lot more do but don't want to get flamed by you by questioning your trolling.

That's mob mentality. If 10 people litter, and you throw your empty paper cup on the ground, it's still littering.


I don't care if you notice or not. I don't care that you want me to stop or not. The forums do not revolve around you.

As you'll remember, I did in fact stop posting altogether for a long time. Did the forums change? Did the trolling stop? Did people stop disagreeing with you personally? No.

And you really think that there are bunches of posters who'd love to call me out on it but are too afraid of me!? kewl

I don't think the trolling is the problem, frankly. I don't think its the people who parody the people who take it seriously that are the issue. I think it's those people they are parodying that can't see beyond the nose on their faces that are the real problem. The self righteous asshats that constantly drag their own personal hangups into the forums and call it a discussion, then shout down anyone who dares disagree.

So you are offended that I strive to be even more obtuse to parody and make fun of these ridiculous caracatures of human beings? Or "becoming the very thing you are saying you don't like" as you put it?

I'm having fun at the expense of people too blind to realise that they are the ones causing the disruption. If ya don't like it, stop adding to the problem in the first place and the trolls wont have anyone to troll.

So I'll make a deal with you... if you stop posting, so will I. For the good of the community :p

Oh, and I really, really hate people who litter, by the way.
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Kris Ritter
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10-22-2004 04:34
Ok. All of that is just bullshit.

I just can't help being a sarcastic bitch is all.

Sorry all. That's just the way it is *shrug*
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Maxx Monde
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10-22-2004 05:10
Back to the main thread -- sure there are Men in SL, they all just happen to be busy playing women!

Confusing eh?
Ursa Falcone
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10-22-2004 05:14
Almarea is probably laughing her ass off somewhere - this seems so obviously a joke that I have to wonder at you all. sigh. Maybe its me, but it seems obvious.
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Jeska Linden: I'm closing this thread because it's obviously overstepped the boundaries of useful conversation, even for the off-topic forum.
Willow Zander
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10-22-2004 05:16
i missed drama??

*cries*
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Hiro Pendragon
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10-22-2004 05:17
From: Kris Ritter
I don't care if you notice or not. I don't care that you want me to stop or not. The forums do not revolve around you.

As you'll remember, I did in fact stop posting altogether for a long time. Did the forums change? Did the trolling stop? Did people stop disagreeing with you personally? No.

You expecting your stopping posting would stop all trolling? Are you suddenly the Che Guevara of trolling? No. But you know what? When you stopped posting, the trolling from YOU stopped. That's really all that matters.

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And you really think that there are bunches of posters who'd love to call me out on it but are too afraid of me!? kewl

It's sad you take pleasure in your intimidating other people.

From: someone

So I'll make a deal with you... if you stop posting, so will I. For the good of the community :p

No. The difference between my posts and yours is that trolling is in fact against the rules of the forum, whereas my posts don't violate posting guidelines. I don't want you to stop posting. I want you to stop hiding behind your Internet personality and being such an instigator. If you treated people like this in real life, they'd punch you in the face.

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Oh, and I really, really hate people who litter, by the way.

See? There's always the possibility that we can agree on things.
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