The real reason they're bringing in video
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Baba Yamamoto
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03-19-2005 20:26
From: Charlotte Gillespie Those are eminently usable for thousands of other things in SL. But how many times have you been building, and suddenly thought - "hey, this could do with a streaming video or two!"? Exactly. How many? Well I don't have an exact count... Is more than 50 enough? What good is video? Example1: A video split into two cells of 240x160 with animated character busts. INSTANT Harry Potter moving photographs/paintings.. Feel free to steal this idea. Example2: QText used to keep a low prim scrolling banner infosation. With the proper code you could generate a file on the fly from SL. The text file could be under 1 kb and is rendered in quicktime by the user's computer. Feel free to steal this idea. Example3: PORN. You dont like this? Too bad it's gonna happen. Example4: Your own personal video projects. Are you a film/digital arts student looking for an audience? SL will come watch your videos! Make up your own ideas for this one! Give me a couple days maybe I'll have some more ;0
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Hank Ramos
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03-19-2005 20:29
I prefer black and white sketches of naked men 
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Kasandra Morgan
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03-19-2005 20:36
From: Hank Ramos I prefer black and white sketches of naked men  So civilized.
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Hiro Pendragon
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03-19-2005 20:58
OMG!!!!!!!! PR0N ON THE INTERNET!
quick, ban the Internet!
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Belaya Statosky
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03-19-2005 22:58
I find it interesting for people to assume that people engaging in AV sex all have to be big losers who can't get a date and/or laid, likely all men, ugly, etc. While I personally don't engage in such around here on SL, I have had experience being around people prone to engaging in such. Some of them I know even RL and can vouch that they have no issues getting laid and some are actually female.
Really the conclusion I've reached is that it's more about an ego-boost/control issue for some than it is a pure sexual release. It's more about feeling 'desired' and 'lusted after', the sort of thing that perfectly normal looking people, even some in relationships simply do not feel otherwise. It's a bit shallow, but I assure you that it's a mistake and a bit of condescending one to be making just to assume that anyone engaging in such is simply a 'pathetic loser' who can't get any.
If it was all about just getting their rocks off, I wouldn't be seeing a people pulling such power trips like 'We've done it, let's be partners -- now that we're partners, when I'm on I demand sex pronto' and variations thereof. The relationships are cheap, shallow and disposable, quickly drifting from the next 'score' to the other. It's more about the chase than it is swapping virtual fluids. This isn't some exclusive phenomenon to just SL, mind you. I've seen it on other communities as well.
Also: Some people are just bored.
I'm not even really trying to justify AV sex (I honestly don't care) so much as I'm bored and thought I'd share another point of view rather than just post stupid one-liners, as per usual from me.
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Athel Richelieu
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03-19-2005 23:02
Lol. Even handsome men in RL, and good looking people watch porn. Even those who are getting it in RL. Lol. SL offers Virtual Interactive Sex, which can be more fun than just watching porn for some people. I really dont think that there is a connection with liking the sex aspect of SL and not being able to get any in RL. Thats like saying that those who watch porn cant get any, which isnt true at all, a lot of people watch porn lol.
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Nolan Nash
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03-19-2005 23:03
From: Belaya Statosky 'pathetic loser' I think it's "looser". 
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Roberta Dalek
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03-19-2005 23:07
"The internet is for porn!"
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Nolan Nash
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03-19-2005 23:08
From: Roberta Dalek "The internet is for porn!" They should just rename it "The Intersex". 
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Loki Pico
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03-19-2005 23:24
No one really mentioned music videos yet. I think it will be cool for the club goers to see big screen videos of the music they are listening to. It ought to add a new element to that environment. If I stream video on my land it will probably be music video or funny stuff to laugh at.
But, I admit when I first heard that video was coming to SL I immediately thought of how the SL porno industry will embrace it. But, once I got in preview and saw the variety of streams people had set up, the possibilities started to seem endless. There will be porno, but you wont have to see it.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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I don't see what's wrong with Av sex.
03-19-2005 23:53
With an improved physics engine and a new rendering system, when they arrive, Av sex will probably take a leap upward in popularity.
Of course the new streaming video will bring in tons of streaming porno movies. There will probably be some good times to be had doing a Mystery Science Theatre audience commentary sort of thing.
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Roberta Dalek
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03-19-2005 23:58
I wonder if I'm the only starving artist who thought about video instalations?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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The Intersex?
03-19-2005 23:59
Isn't intersex a condition of having an unusual mixture of male and female sexual characterics?
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Loki Pico
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03-20-2005 01:37
From: someone Roberta said... I wonder if I'm the only starving artist who thought about video instalations? What do you mean exactly? I talked to a guy who had the idea about having ambient video art playing. Or, having waterfalls, aquariums, and the like, to provide a different feel to a location. I am all for abstract video presentations, deployed in a unique way. You mean things like this or am I completely off target?
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Blueman Steele
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It's not unusual
03-20-2005 02:18
First and foremost ... .does strip triva count as "non-sexual behavior" even IF you are winning and only the guys are getting nude?
Second of all.. even those who love the more "romantic" aspects of SL are not keen to fly from club to club seeing 7 foot tall pornos.
Being romantic in SL is fun because there is a second (or third or .. *ahem) person involved. Porno is passive.
MOST things in SL are fun because there are other people involved.
Anyone on SL has a computer with broad band internet. So why would you want to see porn streamed THOUGH a game??? SL does not do much for videos one would want to watch in private if at all.
Now.... other non sexual uses.
Teaching.
Video opens up the chance to teach somethings that would have taken too many still images before.
I've tested ASL videos and they play fine.
Charlotte, if you are so worried do this. Look for the first place that tries to stream a commercial movie and report their ass. I don't know, aside from making it themselves *shudder they can't take any porn movie and stream it with permission.
Anything they can get will have a little url on it.. people will click and go OUT of SL just as you want them to.
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Blueman Steele
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Video as art
03-20-2005 02:20
From: Loki Pico What do you mean exactly? I talked to a guy who had the idea about having ambient video art playing. Or, having waterfalls, aquariums, and the like, to provide a different feel to a location. I am all for abstract video presentations, deployed in a unique way. You mean things like this or am I completely off target? A video instalation is just like a painting .... 'cpet it's video. Seen many great examples of video as "art" and they don't have to be "ambient"
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Nolan Nash
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03-20-2005 03:00
I heard the real reason they are bringing in Quicktime is so that Lynn Lippman can show us videos of her toes...
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Jsecure Hanks
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03-20-2005 03:07
From: Huns Valen I have a bigscreen TV I built and I have always thought it would be cool to stream video to it. Porn or no, this is a really neat technology. We can also "stream" still pictures, like the current chart from GOM. YadNi built a wrap-around movie theater that shows some kind of short film, which is very cool. This technology is a good thing. You can stream pictures in? To me that sounds like a much bigger use of the tech, the ability to show huge photo libaries, and give presentations and such 
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Alan Kiesler
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03-20-2005 03:38
Hmm... There are a couple vids created around Uru, it would be nice to have those available for viewing. Continue the campaign I've taken up after hearing too many people here not know about Until Uru. We also had a live feed from Until Uru the other week (though it was RealPlayer) for a St Pats parade. Having access to that in SL would have been totally insane, a true link between the two systems... But we'd also have access to better educational formats, like the QT Text Jeff mentions, or an enhanced version of the Ivory Tower going over the UI in a video. The heck /w pr0n. The classes may finally take back the event spaces dominated by Tringo. (OK, reaching a bit there, but one can dream  ).
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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03-20-2005 04:35
Wow! Its the "Why SL sucks and is doomed forever" thread of the week!
Seriously, da pr0n rul3z.
I can't wait to do MST3K with a few friends on various videos.
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Seth Kanahoe
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03-20-2005 09:36
Personally, I think Charlotte's on to something here. LL is deliberately turning SL into a virtual porn emporium.
I think LL's recent decision to bring SpeedTreeRT to SL in the fall proves it.
Most people seem to think that SpeedTreeRT is about new landscaping opportunities, but I think it's about rendering all kinds of lumber in all kinds of circumstances, quickly and without straining server resources.
The realization came to me as though someone had hit me over the head with a piece of wood.
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Michi Lumin
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03-20-2005 11:26
heheh. he said wood.
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Juro Kothari
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03-20-2005 12:52
From: Charlotte Gillespie
Porno.
Wow. Surely you must be privy to some inside information that the rest of us are not. Did Philip tell you this himself? That Porno would save SL? Or, is this your knee-jerk reaction because you cannot imagine people using streaming video for anything OTHER than porno??
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Charlotte Gillespie
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03-20-2005 12:56
From: Juro Kothari Wow. Surely you must be privy to some inside information that the rest of us are not. Did Philip tell you this himself? That Porno would save SL?
Or, is this your knee-jerk reaction because you cannot imagine people using streaming video for anything OTHER than porno?? Sex sells. It's always been the case. The more sex that can be found in SL, the more horny teenagers will hear about it, and sign up with mum and dad's credit card. Sadly, the rest of us will soon be swamped under a sea of "OMG SEXX0R BALLZ LOLOMGROFL!!!111". 
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Nolan Nash
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03-20-2005 13:40
From: Charlotte Gillespie Sex sells. It's always been the case. The more sex that can be found in SL, the more horny teenagers will hear about it, and sign up with mum and dad's credit card. Sadly, the rest of us will soon be swamped under a sea of "OMG SEXX0R BALLZ LOLOMGROFL!!!111".  In a PG sim? Doubtful. Also, remember that there is a teen grid coming.
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