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Eggy Lippmann
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05-05-2005 14:57
...with my preemptive apologies to the more sensitive christians :D
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05-05-2005 15:12
Actually the Bible is a pretty steamy book. The content advisory is all the more reason to read it.

I bet if you put that warning on the Bible sales would increase.
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Lianne Marten
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05-05-2005 15:22
Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders.
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05-06-2005 11:46
From: Neehai Zapata

I bet if you put that warning on the Bible sales would increase.


As if the world's most published book needed any sales increases. I mean, what other book has publishing houses solely devoted to print just the one work?
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05-06-2005 13:48
From: Eggy Lippmann
...with my preemptive apologies to the more sensitive christians :D

Somehow this is not supposed to be offensive just because you say that Eggy? This is perhaps the most stereotypical, bigoted, prejudice thing I have seen on these forums, which is saying a lot. Nice going. :(

Had the same kind of attack been levied on practically any historically persecuted group it would be met with an incredible amount of hostility but hey, it's against Christians so it must be ok... right? Just because it is now "politically correct" to ridicule Christians and the Bible does not mean that it is morally ok to go ahead and do it. Shame on you Eggy.

And yes Liona, there is a reason why the Bible isn't listen on the best seller's list. It is because there NEVER would be another book even close to it's sales volume and never will. The thought that somehow it needs to do better is laughable.
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05-06-2005 13:51
It was a joke, Billy. The irony is that the segment of the population most likely to be offended are the some of the same ones who are attempting to ban certain books from libraries and/or apply 'warning' labels to some science text books. Go figure.
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05-06-2005 13:51
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As if the world's most published book needed any sales increases. I mean, what other book has publishing houses solely devoted to print just the one work?

Given the amount of propaganda surrounding the christian faith, I would think there would be quite a few people who would want to see sales of the bible increase.

Isn't the whole purpose to expose as many people as possible to the book?

Not the least of which being the publication houses. :)
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Billy Grace
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05-06-2005 13:56
From: Juro Kothari
It was a joke, Billy. The irony is that the segment of the population most likely to be offended are the some of the same ones who are attempting to ban certain books from libraries and/or apply 'warning' labels to some science text books. Go figure.

So... how about blasting out some equally offensive jokes about blacks, jews, gays, etc... What a crock!

You won't do it because it is offensive and intolerant. But hey, we are Christians so why let a little thing like morality and respect stop you? It just a joke is the dumbest justification for prejudice I have ever heard.
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Eggy Lippmann
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05-06-2005 14:02
It's not an attack, Billy :rolleyes:
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05-06-2005 14:04
It is an bigoted, offensive, tasteless, intolerant, prejudice joke.

Maybe you should think of the appropriateness of such a thing before posting it on a public forum.
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05-06-2005 14:04
First, Billy, take a DEEP breath.

Now, it wasn't a joke targeted directly at a group of people, so your comment about blasting other minority groups (which, by the way, Christians are not) - falls short. No go, man.

It was a joke about a book and it's contents. I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea, considering the content of the book. I am, however, willing to revoke my support of some type of warning label for the bible if 'the other side' stops trying to ban books like these:

Scary Stories (Series) by Alvin Schwartz
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling
Forever by Judy Blume
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Alice (Series) by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
My Brother Sam is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Giver by Lois Lowry
It’s Perfectly Normal by Robie Harris
Goosebumps (Series) by R.L. Stine
A Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Newton Peck
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
Sex by Madonna
Earth’s Children (Series) by Jean M. Auel
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Go Ask Alice by Anonymous
Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Myers
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
The Stupids (Series) by Harry Allard
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The New Joy of Gay Sex by Charles Silverstein
Anastasia Krupnik (Series) by Lois Lowry
The Goats by Brock Cole
Kaffir Boy by Mark Mathabane
Blubber by Judy Blume
Killing Mr. Griffin by Lois Duncan
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
We All Fall Down by Robert Cormier
Final Exit by Derek Humphry
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
Julie of the Wolves by Jean Craighead George
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Girls: A Growing-Up Guide for Parents & Daughters by Lynda Madaras
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Beloved by Toni Morrison
The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
Bumps in the Night by Harry Allard
Deenie by Judy Blume
Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Annie on my Mind by Nancy Garden
The Boy Who Lost His Face by Louis Sachar
Cross Your Fingers, Spit in Your Hat by Alvin Schwartz
A Light in the Attic by Shel Silverstein
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Sleeping Beauty Trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice)
Asking About Sex and Growing Up by Joanna Cole
Cujo by Stephen King
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell
Boys and Sex by Wardell Pomeroy
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
What’s Happening to my Body? Book for Boys: A Growing-Up Guide for Parents & Sons by Lynda Madaras
Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume
Crazy Lady by Jane Conly
Athletic Shorts by Chris Crutcher
Fade by Robert Cormier
Guess What? by Mem Fox
The House of Spirits by Isabel Allende
The Face on the Milk Carton by Caroline Cooney
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Native Son by Richard Wright
Women on Top: How Real Life Has Changed Women’s Fantasies by Nancy Friday
Curses, Hexes and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Jack by A.M. Homes
Bless Me, Ultima by Rudolfo A. Anaya
Where Did I Come From? by Peter Mayle
Carrie by Stephen King
Tiger Eyes by Judy Blume
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
Arizona Kid by Ron Koertge
Family Secrets by Norma Klein
Mommy Laid An Egg by Babette Cole
The Dead Zone by Stephen King
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison
Always Running by Luis Rodriguez
Private Parts by Howard Stern
Where’s Waldo? by Martin Hanford
Summer of My German Soldier by Bette Greene
Little Black Sambo by Helen Bannerman
Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett
Running Loose by Chris Crutcher
Sex Education by Jenny Davis
The Drowning of Stephen Jones by Bette Greene
Girls and Sex by Wardell Pomeroy
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
View from the Cherry Tree by Willo Davis Roberts
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Keatley Snyder
The Terrorist by Caroline Cooney
Jump Ship to Freedom by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier


* This list is from the American Library Association and lists the top 100 most challenged books of 1990-2000
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05-06-2005 14:05
From: Eggy Lippmann
It's not an attack, Billy :rolleyes:


And it's not an attack because any "holy text" could be used instead of the Bible. It just so happens that the image he used was the Bible and not the Qu'ran or the Bagavad-Gita.

[edit] Although the latter might not be a good example, after reading the "exposure warnings" on that picture again. Still...
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05-06-2005 14:10
AH cmon guys, yeah it was only a joke on Eggys part, but Billy obviously has strong feelings on this subject, lets not knock him for being offended eh?
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05-06-2005 14:12
I'm not knocking him.. but he's making a mountain out of a mole hill. He feels as though HE was attacked because he is Christian.

Last I saw the label was stuck to the cover of a book, not Billy's forehead.
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05-06-2005 14:13
From: Juro Kothari
First, Billy, take a DEEP breath.

Now, it wasn't a joke targeted directly at a group of people, so your comment about blasting other minority groups (which, by the way, Christians are not) - falls short. No go, man.

Try actually reading what Eggy said Juro and tell me it is not directed towards Christians. You KNOW it is directed at Christians and just like to argue. You are more intelligent than that.

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It was a joke about a book and it's contents. I actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea, considering the content of the book. I am, however, willing to revoke my support of some type of warning label for the bible if 'the other side' stops trying to ban books like these:

Scary Stories (Series) by Alvin Schwartz
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
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* This list is from the American Library Association and lists the top 100 most challenged books of 1990-2000

This has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about. Even if somehow it did, you are using the ole “he did it first” excuse for bad behavior which doesn’t fly if you give a hoot about moral behavior, which I will concede that you may not.

Go ahead and tell me it would be ok to tell a joke about blacks using the N word. After all… it’s a friggin joke… right?

What an idiotic argument.
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05-06-2005 14:13
From: Billy Grace
Somehow this is not supposed to be offensive just because you say that Eggy? This is perhaps the most stereotypical, bigoted, prejudice thing I have seen on these forums, which is saying a lot. Nice going. :(




Umm..have you read the bible? Because everything that warning label says is true. So why would you be offended by the truth??
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Eggy Lippmann
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05-06-2005 14:15
From: Billy Grace
So... how about blasting out some equally offensive jokes about blacks, jews, gays, etc... What a crock!

You won't do it because it is offensive and intolerant. But hey, we are Christians so why let a little thing like morality and respect stop you? It just a joke is the dumbest justification for prejudice I have ever heard.

Hmmm... here's a thought. Blacks and Jews don't spend their lives insulting, attacking or discriminating me for being white or non-jewish, neither do they try to shove their views in my face, or lobby governments into passing laws that favor their worldview over mine.
Black and jewish people do not promote ignorance either.
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05-06-2005 14:15
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I'm not knocking him.. but he's making a mountain out of a mole hill. He feels as though HE was attacked because he is Christian.

Last I saw the label was stuck to the cover of a book, not Billy's forehead.

Yopu just don't get it, or choose to look the other way because the joke is about Christians. That is small of you Juro. Be a bigger man than that.
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05-06-2005 14:17
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Hmmm... here's a thought. Blacks and Jews don't spend their lives insulting, attacking or discriminating me for being white or non-jewish, neither do they try to shove their views in my face, or lobby governments into passing laws that favor their worldview over mine.
Black and jewish people do not promote ignorance either.

Here is a thought too Eggy... NEITHER DO THE MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS.

The more you say, the more obvious your ignorance of your own bigotry becomes which is sad.
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05-06-2005 14:18
:( this thread makes me sad
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05-06-2005 14:20
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:( this thread makes me sad

You and me both, Willow. Do we have to go through this again? :(
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05-06-2005 14:20
I'm still puzzled why you would be so angry billy. Are you denying that the contents of the warning label are true? All of those things are indeed in the bible. And as to the warning of behavior spawned by the bible..history is full of examples of such behavior inspired by the bible. So..why be pissed?
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05-06-2005 14:21
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I'm still puzzled why you would be so angry billy. Are you denying that the contents of the warning label are true? All of those things are indeed in the bible. And as to the warning of behavior spawned by the bible..history is full of examples of such behavior inspired by the bible. So..why be pissed?

David, I am not going to debate the entire Bible here with you. Suffice it to say that yes, I disagree with what it says and it is extremely offensive. Why you feel some need to pile it on is beyond me.
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05-06-2005 14:22
From: Billy Grace
It is an bigoted, offensive, tasteless, intolerant, prejudice joke.

What, the bible? I wholeheartedly agree.
The bible spends half of its pages promoting the slaughtering and discrimination of people on account of being different in some way, whether it be circumcision, gender, nationality, religion, sexual orientation.
The Christian religion has brough about more wars and bloodshed than anything I can imagine. My country, along with Spain and many others, spent nearly a thousand years battling the muslims solely on account of being "infidels".
Muslim terrorists remember the christian crusades with great fondness :P
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05-06-2005 14:23
First of all Billy, I DID read it. Thank you very much.

Eggy posted a prank graphic. You do realize it is not a real sticker, right? Knowing that the joke *might* be taken as an afront to Christianity, which it is clearly not, Eggy even said:
From: Eggy Lipmann
...with my preemptive apologies to the more sensitive christians



From: Billy Grace
This has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about. Even if somehow it did, you are using the ole “he did it first” excuse for bad behavior which doesn’t fly if you give a hoot about moral behavior, which I will concede that you may not.

Go ahead and tell me it would be ok to tell a joke about blacks using the N word. After all… it’s a friggin joke… right?

What an idiotic argument.

Yes, you are making an idiotic argument. I can see it being highly offensive if it was an image of Christians being burned at the stake as a parody of an advertisement for BBQ sauce. But, it's not.

It's about the book - not the followers/believers/subscribers.

It's a tongue-in-cheek image that might even have some merit to it if we apply the current attitude of many far-right Christians and thier approach to book banning.

If it was any other book yet had all of the categories listed on that sticker: violence, suicide, incest, bestiality, sadomasochism, sex, alcohol use, etc.... it would have been banned years ago. I'll leave it to you to figure out who would've championed that hypothetical book banning.
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