i'm dying to know... how do you get 30k traffic?

as quoted by Pendari

i wonder if 100 per day is a "say it was 100" number or if each av only generates 100 points a day.

"LW amusement park competition dwell -
-Based simply on total number of people/ minutes on your site
-Does NOT include owner
-NO five minute minimum required."

I wonder, if the land is group land everyone is counted, because no one is the actual owner, and it wouldn't be a good idea to exclude everyone in the group.

Haney Linden on "group" dwell:





Jeska Linden - more on "group" dwell:




Both quotes found here:
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Does the 5 min have to be continuous, or can I login and walk back and forth between 2 properties all day for 24 hours spending a total of 12 hours on each property, but never more than 2 min at a time, and no one gets dwell from me?

My understanding is that you don't start making a dwell contribution to the parcel you're standing on - until you've been there for 5 minutes or more.

Not sure whether that number is cumulative or concurrent. My hunch is - that number is cumulative. So to use your 'fly back and forth' example - I think if the total exceeded 5 minutes for any parcel - even if it wasn't concurrent - you'd still be adding dwell points.

Purely an unconfirmed educated guess, however.

What we see as daily dwell is lindens, not points. The number of points varies each day depending on the number of avs that login. The money pool is consistent. However, differing numbers of points being distributed each day means that you can earn different amounts of dwell money hosting exactly the same number of avs on your land for exactly the same amount of time.

For instance, if the daily pot is 1000L and 200 avs log in on Monday, and are assigned one dwell point each, those points are worth 5L in dwell money. If twelve of them spend all their inworld time on your land that day, you'll receive 60L in dwell.

Now on Tuesday, 500 avs log in and are assigned one dwell point each. Those points are worth only 2L. If twelve avs spend all of their inworld time on your land that day, you'll recieve 24L in dwell.

Does anyone remember how much Dwell the 24-Hour party for charity at the Cannibus Cathedral generated? At the time, it was a record breaker, but I don't remember what the numbers were.

My experience is that 1 AV, 100% of their online time, gives roughly 600-700 in dwell/traffic points. Whether its 5 minutes or 12 hours. Numbers vary a little, because its proportional with all other properties that receive dwell. For instance, it's easier to up the traffic/dwell points in weekends, even with the same amount of traffic.

Since you get dwell according to how much time they spend at your place compared to how much time they spend elsewhere, there are some avs that gives your more dwell than others, in less time. If you give this a little thought when planning events, it can pay off in your dwell #s.

I have two places, both are in popular places, with just 1 event each per day. Combined dwell today is 29K, and I don't have to work my ass off either. I have two well paid hosts hired to to that job. But these events are just boosters on the numbers. If I really wanted to get up there, i could max out with 6 or more events per day.

The money ball IS the big time sink.
My strategy is simple, but efficient. I give out way too much money in the money ball. Steady, around the clock. They can trust that my money ball is one of the most generous in SL if they have the patience to wait until it's their turn to win. I also have a couple of tricks up my sleeve with the money ball, to make it the best in game.

The money I give out is simply the profit from my sales. I spent quite some time until i found the numbers that kept my account balance steady. It's not a profitable venture, but as long as it balances out, I'm happy. My strategy, of course, requires good sales or lots of RL cash. Money talks, bullshit walks. Simple as that.

I get the feeling that no one really understands all the details of how dwell works, even the Lindens. I've heard conflicting things from different Lindens, and sometimes what they say conflicts with reality too. Cory Linden says that each av gets ONE POINT of dwell to spend each day, so that av may genrate only 0.25 dwell points for a given parcel on that day. I look at the 2000 dwell on my sim from yesterday, and I know that I didn't get that many avs on my land. I wonder if the dwell shown in-world may be calibrated differently, like 100 times the internal dwell number, but that's just a guess.

As for generating dwell on land you own yourself... I think you don't get dwell for yourself on land you own as an individual av, but you do get it if the land is group owned. This appears to be consistent with my observations as well.

Travis is right. From everything I've heard from Cory and other Lindens, it doesn't matter how long an av stays on a parcel as long as it is more than 5 minutes. The important thing is what portion of their time that day did they spend on your land.

Given that the population of SL is increasing steadily, it makes sense that the dwell numbers are also increasing. I don't think total dwell across all parcels in a day is normalized. Instead they award money based on dwell proportionally. I think.

I hate that this stuff is such a mystery. Many of us have asked the Lindens to write this stuff down and make it clear. Philip has said he'd make sure that happened. And yet there are still so many questions that have yet to be answered. I don't think knowing the answers would change very much, but not knowing leads us to waste lots of time trying to puzzle it out for ourselves to see if it matters or not.

1. create 15-30 alts in BETA
2. set each one on your land and your land only for 7 MIN. each
3. install a money ball that shoots out 10$L per every 15 min. (but make sure it gives 90% of the money to your alts)
4. Pay 20 of your closest "friends" each 100L$ to log in and sit on your land only for 7 MIN per day.
5. post lots of events with the work "cum,xxx,fuck,suck, or pussy" in the discriptions.
6. make sure you have the biggest piece of shit none creative space to host your "parties" they seem to attract ppl.
7. rip off as many ppl as you can as soon as you can so you can expand your "empire"

Enjoy your sucess!

Well, I'd like to volunteer my land to do an experiment. Right now, I have zero traffic. Tomorrow, my AV will stand on my land all day. The following day, I'll get ten people to stand on my land all day. The day after that, I'd like to have 100 people stand on my land all day. Who can help me? And the day after that, a thousand people....Who will come? And the day after that, 10,000 people, all standing on an 8704m2 parcel. And then 100,000 people, so we'll have to invite non-SL friends to sign up....

Should be interesting to see what happens. When that's all done, we can start over again, only on a weekly basis - just me for one week, then 10 people the next week, and so on.

I think people used to do this in the fifties, didn't they? When the equivalent of SL was a telephone booth or a VW bug?

Ya, what she said...

i suppose this might be the magic forumal, but i doubt it. ssems like there's alot of work involved.

but if your post is the magic formula, then i hope ll tries to adjust traffic.

Been around since beta I have picked up on a few things since then. Is it a flawed system? Hell yes always has been. Started with vote mining way back when.

If your sit 7 min on your land and 7 min to 7 hours, on someone elses land your dwell points for the day are split 50/50 with that other person.

Cat

Not sure, Jonquille - but I know the "record" for dwell seems to be constantly increasing. In August of 2004, when I opened - having 10k dwell was an amazing number. By November - 20k was where the top places sat. Nowadays - 30k isn't even recordbreaking.

I think that's because as the total population of SL rises, so do the dwell numbers.

Since the CC party was early last summer (if I'm not mistaken) - my guess would be that the dwell acheived was somewhere between 10-15k - which for the time, would have been amazing

I still don't know for sure if the land owner gets any dwell from being on their own land. I have heard yes and no from two different Lindens. Can some Linden who 100% knows the answer please step up and answer this question?

I did some forum archaeology, and this was all I could dig up:

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/3/93/29014/1.html

I have a strong recollection of a Linden telling me that you don't get dwell for yourself on your own land if you own it as an individual, but you do if you own it as a group. However, I can't find any reference for that. And given the wildly contradictory information we've gotten from Lindens about dwell (among other things) before, it's hard to know what to believe.

Maybe they should just post the code

ok. i tried this thing with my alts, and all i have to say for it is:
1) it's tedious as hell and anyone who wants to do this deserves the dwell they get.
2) it's a miniscule amount of dwell.
3) holding an event produces more dwell than trying to do this alt thing.

there might be something i'm missing in this part of the formula, but i'm pretty sure this part doesn't do much.

Hey we dont have Tringo I resent that! Tringo is on my island and yes dildos are free for first time Tringoers

Now this isnt TSO where you can sit with like 3 alts and bring your home up on the list. If you want to use alts it will take a lot of alts to get dwell high enough for top 25 list. I have alts to help me manager my vendors and rento boxes however to log on from one alt to another to rank up dwell is in my mind a waste of time. If you want dwell start a place off with a few friends and bring in new players.

Many people freak when I give out advise or tips but hey its what I do and i enjoy it. I once did a class on how to start a new venue. The turn out for it was good but as I was giving the class Id get a cabillion IMs from my employees and etc so I never did one again.

One tip and many dont do this and Im suprizes is... hehe When one of my managers or staff leave either cause they found work else where or were let go, are quicky picked up by other establishements who think oooo they worked for The Edge they must be good. Many are dont get me wrong but those staff they pick-up are now in what I call the growing and branching out phase.... lordy I annoy myself with my terms and philosphy Anywho so this is what you do......

*this public service annoucement was interupted by a dont forget to hug your neighbor message more on the how to get dwell on next weeks Class to Dwell followed by the oh so popular new soap Tringodelmingo where Juan finds out Maria is pregnate with Miguel's baby...*