i'm dying to know... how do you get 30k traffic?

recently i looked at popular places and saw places with 30k or so dwell. (at the momen everyone is under 30k). i'm dying to know how people do this.

how many avhours (like peoplehours in the workplace) does this actually represent?

i remember looking in the past and i don't recall anyone breaking 20k.

and it's not because they are island sims... the top three places are on the mainland.

i hope it's not some tradesecret thing that people won't talk about, 'cuz i find this totally amazing.

Dwell is not proportional to time.
All you need is a lot of alts, log each one for 5 minutes every day, and you get all their dwell points.
Seeing as an alt account is only $10 and can generate dwell for life, it looks like a sound business plan.
Its about time LL started seriously rethinking their incentive program.

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You have to make sure you log in as Jenna Fairplay, then the rest sortof just "happens"...

But really if you are not a box-mall-club-anti-creative-jenna-fairplay-blacklist-sex-dildo-casino-tringo-club.... then you are NOT going to get 30k dwell...

If you build something interesting and provokative, dwell becomes a non-issue because you are banned from the game by LL and the rest of the restraint group...

Assuming Dwell/Traffic is your goal, here's what you do to maximize it:

1. Get the maximum number of *unique AV's* spending 5 minutes or more at your location over the course of a 24 hour day, and hopefully - not have them go anywhere else.

2. Having events around the clock help to further this goal.

3. Having events that keep people at your location for the majority of their 'logged in time' helps to futher this goal. (This is why Tringo (addictive) and Moneyballs (timesinks) are so successful at maximizing dwell).


Dwell/Traffic only begins to be counted after 5 minutes - that is true. However, Dwell is also proportial - which means that if in the same day someone spends 5 minutes at Location X - and 2 hours at Location Y - Location Y has benefitted much more.

Also keep in mind - there is a huge misconception as to how much daily dwell/traffic pays out. Back when I actually cared about dwell (thankfully, I finally woke up) - a dwell raiting of 12,000 would net about L$300 per day. That's not that much considering the operational costs of getting dwell that high. I'm sure you can extrapolate it out for a dwell of 30k.

Developer incentive is monthly - and at least in my case in the past - covers Tier only. It is proportional - so no clue on the upper end of it. But my hunch is - the higher your target dwell is - the higher your operational costs are to get there. Thus making your net pretty darn low.

There's my experience with the magical, mystical world of dwell

Enjoy!

LOL! Wow...some real angst in this thread. Actually...the people that generate that much dwell really work at it, like a full time job. While the events and activities aren't usually things that interest me, they do obviously interest many, and close-knit groups of friends and loyal patrons form. It becomes a place were you know most of the folks, feel comfortable, and have fun.

It's very seldom about the quality of the build. I've seen fantastic builds that get very little traffic. In fact, some of the best builds get very little traffic, because they were built for the pleasure of creation and the challenge of art, and not to hold events at 24/7.

Both types of places have their place in SL, obviously. My hats off to the hard working club owners, and my deepest respect to those whose artistic talents amaze and delight us.

The way I understand dwell is you get 1 count per minute per AV. So one av on your land for 24 hours would give you a dwell of 1440.

I dunno, I evny those people that 30k plus dwell, we can have lots of traffic and great turn outs for multiple events and never see over 12000

Sorry, Kevn - Inaccurate. You do not get 1 count per minute per AV.

In fact - if you're talking about 1 AV.. say you were logged in for 5 minutes *total* for a day, and sat in the same spot.

On day 2 - you're logged in for 12 hours - and sat at the same spot.

Both of the above examples will generate the same amount of "dwell points". Keep in mind the whole "proportional" thing.

Hope this helps!

I go by my experience only, If I stay on my land for 10 hours and no one else comes, I get about 600 count. If my friend is here during that 10 hours as well I get 1200 count. Right now my count is over 3000 because I had 2 friends stay on over night and most of the day, along with my own time here.

interesting...

David is right here too. A lot of effort goes into creating this much dwell - and the quality of the build has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Effort usually involves - putting a lot of time in yourself - paying a bunch of people to put in a lot of time for you - or some combination thereof. It just isn't realistic to expect to get a significant amount of dwell without putting some significant work-hours into it in some form.

Unless things have changed - like I said, I stopped caring about dwell a while back....

It's not accurate to say that if they spend 5 minutes there..you get all their dwell. But you get an percentage of dwell based on how many other places they spend 5 minutes or more on during that day. Thus, if they spend 5 minutes on your land and log off, you get ALL their traffic points, but if they spend 5 minutes or more at 10 different places and then log off for the night, you get 1/10th of their total traffic points.

Hope that helps and hope I'm right..lol

Thats why you get alot more dwell if you hang out on your own land for your entire day, be it 5 minutes or 5 hours.

Perhaps "dwell" isn't the same as "traffic". I think dwell is money paid out and traffic is the number on "about land". I pretty much ignore the money side, it's not worth noting. The reason I think traffic numbers matter is it pushes your store up higher on the search list. Just an opnion without any verification from LL

The term "dwell" was changed to the term "traffic" in 1.6.

I'm fairly certain they're interchangable

Gah, I can't find the threads anywhere, but I swore at one point it was stated that you do not gain dwell for yourself just by standing on your own land. That only non-owners of the land can give dwell to that parcel. Anyone remember this discussion? I'm curious if it is still true or not.

I remember this, Pen - I always thought this was the case too. But can't find anywhere to confirm it.

I'm pretty sure you can give yourself traffic. I know if I spend all day, by myself *sobs*, working on my land, I see definitely traffic imporvement.

so far that's:
1) sex
2) lotsa work (events)
3) timesinks (e.g. moneyballs)
4) addictions (e.g. tringo)

not:
1) build quality

questions:
1) any estimate how many avhours 30k traffic represents?
2) how much dwell does one av generate/trigger in a day?
3) sensual notes that she has lotsa events and stuff and doesn't get over 12k. so what's the extra?

I think dwell is screwy when SL is laggy and having issues, there are many days it seems where dwell hardly registers.



Also there is one place with high dwell that has it because many new players go there, they log in and out there because they dont have homes. If you have an avie logged in for more than 5 minutes all in one location for the whole day, you get all the dwell points. Sweet deal.


So lure newbies to your land, make them fell welcomed and keep them there! Tringo, sex balls, whatever it takes!

Still searching for confirmation on "self owned land dwell". But I did find this in the archives:



/120/69/5607/1.html

If my calculations are correct, according to my own experiments with traffic numbers on my land it would take 21 avies on for 24 hours to get over 30,000. That's figuring 1440 per av, which some will disagree with. That's just my personal opinion based on some very basic experimentation. I may be way off track.

Well - this is just a hunch here - again something I can't confirm - but it seemed to function this way from prior experience.....

"Its all relative."

For literally months, I would do the same 6 events, every day, and attendance would be fairly consistant. Yet I noticed that my traffic would fluctuate between 7000 - 12000, depending upon how *everyone else was doing*.

This is purely observational - my theory could be flawed. But just by eyeballing it - I think proportion has a lot to do with dwell numbers - and it has a lot less to do with a 'point value' of some sort.

This is one area the Lindens could help clarify - they haven't before in this kind of detail.

Ok. Found something on it! And unless it has changed, then it seems I was wrong and you *do* get dwell for standing on your own land.

Quote from Haney Linden:



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(of course Lindenworld isn't around anymore )