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Prokofy Neva
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Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-14-2005 14:53
From: someone
When someone notifies another person on a message board that this is "legal notification to stop" and they proceed with a filing in the proper court, said notified person will then have to defend why they continued to talk to the filling party. So be careful.


*Rolls eyes*.

Um, I don't plan on being "careful" and being intimidated by fucktards. No fucking way. They can blow me.

They don't even claim to have "filed in court" and in fact no court in the land would ever take such a frivolous lawsuit.

There is no such thing as a "legal notification to stop" against an avatar in a game. None whatsoever. Games function as private clubs, under the rules of the TOS, which these people are violating by committing verbal harassment outside the game, and indicating disclosure of RL information to boot.

It's important to push back against that kind of legal monkeying.

If anything, I'd love to work my RL lawyer contacts and see if I could get one to accept the tasks of launching some well-deserved libel suits on some of the notorious slanderers in here. I think I'd have quite a case. On RL disclosure issues, too.

I'd love to see the RL court in the land that can come up with a justification to slap a protective order on an electronic avatar, and prove that:

-- contacting an electronic image on the Internet known as some stranger's avatar is a form of "contact"
-- writing to an anonymous person on a web forum where people use handles or anonymous names is a form of "contact"
-- right clicking on an object created by an avatar while in absentia and not logged in, and negrating that image, is a form of "contact".


Yeah, dream on, and let's scroll forward to the year 2055, where I get a notice slapped on me that says:

Oyez oyez hear ye now and be so duly informed in this writ of habeus corpus where the party of the first part doth swear and account and signify and hereby warn and duly notify You and all your Representatives to cease the right-clicking upon their created objects in the metaverse and cease the negrating of said avatar in the metaverse. Sworn this date of 15 May 2055 and registered in [COURT] [COUNTY] [COUNTRY].
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Lash Xevious
Gooberly
Join date: 8 May 2004
Posts: 1,348
05-14-2005 14:54
How the heck did this dissolve into a "CRISTIANO IS THE IP DEVIL!!!11one" thread?

Anyhoo, I still think getting a warning that the fed's are on one's ass for a triple neg is harrassing in nature itself.
blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
05-14-2005 14:54
From: someone

hmmmm I tend to think only those who are hiding something are worried about if a web site has their IP.... I could care less who has mine, Ive done nothing I need to hide from


That's crux, Toy. Some of us *are* hiding something therefore are concerned.

People around here have a hard time putting themselves in the shoes of others and prefer to project their own particular situation over that of others - which is why these discussions devolve so quickly without compromise.

I do not worry about Privacy on the internet in general, because I never do anything that needs to be private.

However, I have experimented with the concept of role playing different alts. Some of these are controversial and some of them are just quite builders. I kinda always felt this was the cool thing about SecondLife.

Therefore, I (like many others, I suspect) enjoy the privacy of keeping these identities seperate. If they fail, then that's ok, I can just move onto the next Avatar.

Suddenly I can do things and as long as I stay within the bounds of the TOS, I can risk utter failure and not suffer to singificantly (except the time I invested in that particular avatar).

This has a lot of exciting possibilities. Unfortunately, they are threatened by people who may irresponsibily feel because they have your IP address they have the right to abuse it.
Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
05-14-2005 14:55
Your IP Is 66.41.137.62
Your Country Is United States

Have fun with mine, you can use it to pick your lotto numbers if you like. :)
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,416
05-14-2005 14:55
Yeah. You see, we're linking avatars to all IPS numbers. Did you get the memo about this?
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
05-14-2005 14:56
Cristiano is founder of the IP-ATI.
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Eboni Khan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,133
05-14-2005 14:57
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Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
05-14-2005 14:58
From: Ardith Mifflin
Yeah. You see, we're linking avatars to all IPS numbers. Did you get the memo about this?


[Foolish has currently fallen out of his chair, and is rolling on the floor holding his sides as he laughs his ass off.]
pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
05-14-2005 14:58
I have to agree with Prok on this one. One time I natted my java ++ hyperstringy router protocol to my IPS chipset. Because of the IPS chipset's html encoder, it got wormed through the database coldfusion aspect ratio (4:3) and my IPS server-side ethernet connection was streamed live through the public SMTP Intranet.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
05-14-2005 14:59
From: blaze Spinnaker
Some of us *are* hiding something therefore are concerned.


Followed by:

From: blaze Spinnaker
I do not worry about Privacy on the internet in general, because I never do anything that needs to be private.
LMFAO!
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
05-14-2005 15:01
Well, Nolan gee whiz you got me there!
MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,434
05-14-2005 15:01
From: pandastrong Fairplay
I have to agree with Prok on this one. One time I natted my java ++ hyperstringy router protocol to my IPS chipset. Because of the IPS chipset's html encoder, it got wormed through the database coldfusion aspect ratio (4:3) and my IPS server-side ethernet connection was streamed live through the public SMTP Intranet.


Wha???? :p
Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
05-14-2005 15:01
From: pandastrong Fairplay
I have to agree with Prok on this one. One time I natted my java ++ hyperstringy router protocol to my IPS chipset. Because of the IPS chipset's html encoder, it got wormed through the database coldfusion aspect ratio (4:3) and my IPS server-side ethernet connection was streamed live through the public SMTP Intranet.


You know I have to maim you now, right?



(This is not a death-threat.)
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
05-14-2005 15:03
From: pandastrong Fairplay
I have to agree with Prok on this one. One time I natted my java ++ hyperstringy router protocol to my IPS chipset. Because of the IPS chipset's html encoder, it got wormed through the database coldfusion aspect ratio (4:3) and my IPS server-side ethernet connection was streamed live through the public SMTP Intranet.


Not necessarily a bad thing cause all you need to do is prime the carburetor blinker fluid, and reroute the orthotricyclen delimiter and PRESTO... Internet bullshit! Yes it's just that easy to create a conspiracy theory.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,328
05-14-2005 15:04
From: Aimee Weber
Not necessarily a bad thing cause all you need to do is prime the carburetor blinker fluid, and reroute the orthotricyclen delimiter and PRESTO... Internet bullshit! Yes it's just that easy to create a conspiracy theory.


Meh. Too strong.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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05-14-2005 15:04
Hey Cris,
Could you pass that IP off to Pathfinder please ? Pretty please ?? :D GAH This shit is terribly ridiculous.
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StoneSelf Karuna
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Join date: 13 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 15:06
From: pandastrong Fairplay
One time I natted my java ++ hyperstringy router protocol to my IPS chipset. Because of the IPS chipset's html encoder, it got wormed through the database coldfusion aspect ratio (4:3) and my IPS server-side ethernet connection was streamed live through the public SMTP Intranet.

did you write a script to write that?
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 15:06
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Meh. Too strong.


Ah well. They can't all be winners. :(
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
05-14-2005 15:07
From: Aimee Weber
Ah well. They can't all be winners. :(


Mom? Is that really you?
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~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media



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~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
05-14-2005 15:10
And of course, why wouldn't Cristiano connect IP addresses and users and match their alts?

Do you really think he wants people mass logging on with different alts to forward their particular agenda on his website?

The question here is not *if* he can or really *if* he does, but is it reasonable to have privacy around our ALTs?

I think it it does and for very good reasons.
pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
05-14-2005 15:14
From: StoneSelf Karuna
did you write a script to write that?


Yup, I compiled it in the ATI mac address protocol.
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~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media



"That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline."

~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
05-14-2005 15:14
From: blaze Spinnaker
And of course, why wouldn't Cristiano connect IP addresses and users and match their alts?

Do you really think he wants people mass logging on with different alts to forward their particular agenda on his website?

The question here is not *if* he can or really *if* he does, but is it reasonable to have privacy around our ALTs?

I think it it does and for very good reasons.

Are you well today blaze? Honestly, I am having a very difficult time understanding you today.
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
05-14-2005 15:16
Which part did you not understand?


Let me simplify


-> ALT PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT

-> IP ADDRESSES RISK ALT PRIVACY

Therefore, SECURE YOUR IP ADDRESS.
Jillian Callahan
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Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
05-14-2005 15:16
I vote this the most aptly named thread ever.
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Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,359
05-14-2005 15:17
From: blaze Spinnaker
That's crux, Toy. Some of us *are* hiding something therefore are concerned.

People around here have a hard time putting themselves in the shoes of others and prefer to project their own particular situation over that of others - which is why these discussions devolve so quickly without compromise.

I do not worry about Privacy on the internet in general, because I never do anything that needs to be private.

However, I have experimented with the concept of role playing different alts. Some of these are controversial and some of them are just quite builders. I kinda always felt this was the cool thing about SecondLife.

Therefore, I (like many others, I suspect) enjoy the privacy of keeping these identities seperate. If they fail, then that's ok, I can just move onto the next Avatar.

Suddenly I can do things and as long as I stay within the bounds of the TOS, I can risk utter failure and not suffer to singificantly (except the time I invested in that particular avatar).

This has a lot of exciting possibilities. Unfortunately, they are threatened by people who may irresponsibily feel because they have your IP address they have the right to abuse it.



and by a web site having your IP is going to threaten the HUGE secret of alts?

come on now, this is clearly a case of grasping at straws, who the hell really cares what alts you may be, I certainly dont.
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