Insanity

I lost you now.

But the general idea of my statement was that I highly doubt the FBI is going to give any merit to hate crimes based on the report of postings from a guy who i'd never seen say anything that could qualify as hate crimes, from an online game.

You did not ask why, Prokofy, you made a statement about my use of your IP address to track you. Are you fucking delusional, or do you just not read the shit that you post anymore?

Let me point it out for you, since there was no question in your libelous statement:



That is A DIRECT STATEMENT that I have used your IP to hone in on your place of business/residence, and you also called my site untrustworthy. Where exactly was the question?

All forum software, and in fact, all web server software tracks IPs - it is to identify an individual user session. Additionally, the IP address is stored for legal protection. If you were to post child porn on my site, the IP address and web server logs containing it would be forensic evidence that you committed a crime. This site tracks your IP address too - every single post has your IP logged.

I have put up with a lot of shit from you, Prokofy, but I refuse to let you libel me, or my site.

Actually, Prok, I have to say this is where your volume is starting to bite you.

Eventually the probability of running into a nutjob that would do this increases significantly when you post in such large quantities. It doesn't even matter what you say.

The only thing you can do in situations like this is either suck it up and accept that your fame will have its downsides, or tone it down a bit and stop being such a lightning rod.

Well, perhaps you should put all of this in your privacy policy then. I suggest you refer to secondlife.coms privacy policy as a useful template.

Nowhere in yours did you mention any of this information.

in Prok's defense, people can be major dicks if you don't agree with them or have the balls to neg-rate them, and it is allowed to neg-rate!!! Prok tends to make himself a target by reacting to griefers in his way, which is legit but just makes things more convoluted.
Luckily Prok can outwit anyone dumb enough to go outside the rules...

Welcome to the club. That post was way out there for me too, and I work with computers and the web a lot. I don't even understand his clarification statement that I asked him for. *shrug*

oh please blaze, do you actually think he/she is listening? He/she reminds me of one of those children that you try to talk to but they are not listening but only thinking of what they are going to say next.

Here, paste this in..

(change LindenLabs / SecondLife / etc)



Also, don't go talking about how you have this information in forums. It doesn't give us all a sense of ease about your respect for privacy.

You are a bright person, blaze. If you think that is information which needs to be in a privacy statement, then I suggest you get off the intarwebs. The IP address of every visitor is logged on every single server I've ever set up. Apache, IIS, all. It's just a matter of the way the internet works. Your IP is given out freely each and every time you interact with any site. It just is.

Do you read the privacy policy of every single website you go to? I doubt it. Do you make this same argument about every single website you visit? I doubt it. Therefore, I will assume it's because you are letting personal feelings get in the way.

Christ, I have been to random websites that pop up my city's current weather condition or show me dating singles in my city, all by using my IP. You're going to have to make a better argument. I know you're smarter than this blaze.

Well, Ardith.. there is a difference between keeping webserver logs for ip forensics and claiming straight out "i have your IP address".

One might think that he's got a little database with "profile / username / ip address" in a mysql database somewhere.

He should put a disclaimer in his policy that this information will never be used except when required to by law.

Blaze,

As all web server and forum software tracks IPs, and the IP address is part of the information automatically provided, I did not include it. I will add a statement about it.

BTW, since I know you post on ANSHECHUNG.COM, you should check her site as well - PHPBB tracks IPs. You probably should check with SLExchange also, and another sites if you sell anything on them - I am sure you will find your IP is tracked.

This mass hysteria over IP address is hysterical. Like the funniest thing ever. It just shoes how completely fucking ignorant a lot of people are about the internet and networking and perhaphs even the world around them in general. LMAO.


Do you hang little cloaks over your street number on your house so people can't see it?



May I suggest...



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/index.html

So are you going to hassle every webmaster of every site you visit now? I am sorry, your IP is NOT personal info.

He could also be transmitting your IP to the Gelatinous People of Pluto.

Your hyperbolic fantasies are sickening. Quit twisting what he said to fit your lame ass argument.

First, the reason this is important to me is because I fly very much above the radar on these forums.

Second, I have many alts which I do not want to be connected with this user account. That would be bad news.

Third, how do we know that he hasn't done a cross comparison check on all the users accounts that have posted to SLUniverse and said

"oh so this is the alt of this person and this person" so when he posts on secondlife.com he knows who to trash talk?

Maybe this is why he's always making those claims about who is an alt of who? Cause he knows from sluniverse.com?

Probably not. I have a lot of respect for cristiano about this (or I would never have visited his forums). However, I'm not so sure now. He's confident he's got Prokofy's IP address. It's almost like he's gone in and figured it out.

I doubt it, but it certainly gave me that feeling. I would feel better if he had something in his privacy policy saying that he doesn't look at that data and it's only there if the law comes knocking.

Log off the net now. It's your only hope if you want to cover your tracks. You are more paranoid than my 60 year old mother when it comes to the net.

ohhhh I get it now **smacks forehead**

THEY ARE AFTER US!! WHO? ALL OF THEM
ITS A CONSPIRACY!

I sometimes posrate for forum behavior. In fact, I've been known to triple posrate for this reason.

I don't need you to write my privacy policy for me, and the last time I checked, the only person you can speak for is yourself, Blaze. Unless by "us all" you mean your wide variety of alts you claim to have. Nor do I need you to tell me what to speak about. Every web site has your IP address, and the ones you are registered and post in store the IP with each message you post. You are the most paranoid person I have ever seen when it comes to your IP address, my lord.

Try new Oxymoronic Net Soap. It protects all your paranoid fantasies, even if you don't really believe them and are simply trying to make assinine insinuations about someone. Remember folks, Oxymoronic will tackle all those hard to remove IP stains!

Reading all these messages I fail to see where Christanio mentions connecting IP addresses to people who play Second Life. Most all websties capture ip addresses. Much ado about not much.

If Prokofy you are told not to contact someone in this game or on this public forum like here I would assume that you have been legally notified. I'd not assume too much when people are naming federal law enforcement agencies.

The reason I'm paranoid is because I run a business and I do all these cross comparisons as a de-facto way of doing business.

I have the knowledge about exactly who visits which page and which products they have also purchased.

I also use this information for fraud checking. I can guarantee you that GOM / IGE do this kind if cross-checking on a very very fevered basis. If you have ALTs on GOM, they know who they are - I promise you (either that, or they don't know their business..).

What I think is fucking amazing isn't how "fucking ignorant" people are when it isn't that they are fucking ignorant but fucking clever and fucking interested in fucking getting an answer from fucking abusive power-mongers who fucking grab your fucking IPS number and fucking refuse to tell you what the fuck they are doing with it.

I'm fine with the Internet and networking. I"m not fine with people who hide behind technology to be abusive assholes. I'd like them to explain what they are doing grabbing an IPS number, especially when they posture mightily as protectors of privacy.

Does seem you are correct. To much made of very little.

*Rolls eyes*. Um, Cristiano just lets them stack up on a server and doesn't connect them? OF COURSE he connects them, and for a REASON. What we're waiting for is to hear his reason.

This idea that he needs to do this "in case the law comes knocking" is...what again? Huh? He's expecting child pornographers to be posting on his list and has to take protective measures?


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So? Duh. That doesn't mean that I can't *ask what the fuck someone is doing with my IPS number*. I surely can and do ask that question. And I haven't heard anything but the usual ridicule and sniping and hiding behind techno jargon and the usual techo bullying and abusive arrogance to avoid accountability, and avoid answer the question!

Answer the fucking question. What do you do with the IPS numbers?


There's no such thing as a legal notification that can somehow be conjured up by some hallucinatory birdbrain who actually thinks you can sic the law on somebody over a game negrate of a game avatar.

No, I"ve not been legally notified, it's just that people think they can threaten you in this manner -- it's silly.



I don't. I immediately post it on the forums so they and others can see how fantastically and utterly ridiculous it is, when it isn't a form of harassment itself, in fact.