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Death Threat Redux

Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 18:43
Well once again the same person is right back in SL again after a short suspension, with the same death threat aimed at Liv Karuna put right back into his profile, this time with the profanity filtered out. Thank you Linden Lab, glad to see how seriously you took this.
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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 18:46
And this suprises you why Chris?
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 18:46
From: Sox Rampal
And this suprises you why?


It doesn't surprise me. But hooray, we have streaming video!
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Tcoz Bach
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04-05-2005 18:55
Thread locked/banned/deleted in 3...2...1....
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Nora Belvedere
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04-05-2005 18:57
Death threats? I get those all the time
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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 18:58
From: Cristiano Midnight
It doesn't surprise me. But hooray, we have streaming video!


*Tuts* But you KNOW it's all about priorities right Cris ;)
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Unhygienix Gullwing
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04-05-2005 18:59
From: Nora Belvedere
Death threats? I get those all the time

After reading your post in its entirety I am quite simply blown away.
Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 19:00
From: Tcoz Bach
Thread locked/banned/deleted in 3...2...1....


Thanks, Tcoz, that adds so much to it. Why should it be locked?
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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 19:05
From: Cristiano Midnight
Thanks, Tcoz, that adds so much to it. Why should it be locked?


Because your a BAD man Cris - you NAMED this guy who's only crime has been to stalk a poor girl for months and make very real threats against her and her family - SHAME on you Mr Midnight!!!!!!
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Roberta Dalek
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04-05-2005 19:29
Apols for interrupting the drama but the profile you link to doesn't mention anyone in particular.
Nolan Nash
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04-05-2005 19:38
Robin stated a while back that naming names is not in and of itself against community standards so long as it isn't done in the form of a personal attack.

/120/38/24567/2.html#post233985
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 19:55
From: Roberta Dalek
Apols for interrupting the drama but the profile you link to doesn't mention anyone in particular.

Roberta,

He has harassed Liv in SL for several months, including ims containing direct threats. The club owner reference in the profile is specific to her.
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Yashu Vindaloo
Velvet Dominant
Join date: 24 Aug 2004
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04-05-2005 20:03
he doesn't target anyone specific in that profile...


Plus, are you now LL's little linden wannabe always trying to press your moral outlook on everyone else?

We know you prefer a restricted, opressive, uncreative world already... Quit making threads about it, Christiano.


This is pathetic... Is this what you really spend your time in SL doing?! tracking down potential hotbed issues to whine about in the forums?
Nolan Nash
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04-05-2005 20:06
From: Yashu Vindaloo
he doesn't target anyone specific in that profile...


Plus, are you now LL's little linden wannabe always trying to press your moral outlook on everyone else?

We know you prefer a restricted, opressive, uncreative world already... Quit making threads about it, Christiano.


This is pathetic... Is this what you really spend your time in SL doing?! tracking down potential hotbed issues to whine about in the forums?

Maybe he should spend his time in SL tracking down potential hotbed threads and whining about them?

If you don't like a topic, don't participate.
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 20:09
From: Yashu Vindaloo
he doesn't target anyone specific in that profile...


Plus, are you now LL's little linden wannabe always trying to press your moral outlook on everyone else?

We know you prefer a restricted, opressive, uncreative world already... Quit making threads about it, Christiano.


This is pathetic... Is this what you really spend your time in SL doing?! tracking down potential hotbed issues to whine about in the forums?


Yashu,

I am so happy that you act so indignant about my being outraged at Liv being repeatedly terrorized by someone, including threatening to find her where she lives offline. Luckily she is out of town right now so the only way he can harass her is through offline IM. She has dealt with this for months, with no help from Linden Lab.

However, the reason I was even aware of this is he harassed another female tonight and frightened her enough that she asked me about what he had done to Liv. You may not take this kind of shit seriously, I could honestly care less. Quit being an apologist for psychopaths and go whine somewhere alse. I could honestly give a fuck what you think.

PS - yes, compared to you, I don't care to see people harassed with death threats, or attacked with racial/homophobic slurs in SL. If that makes me uncreative, than you must be the pinnacle of creativity, since you wildly support such things. I have no desire whatsoever to aspire to your kind of creativity.
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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 20:31
From: Yashu Vindaloo
he doesn't target anyone specific in that profile...


Plus, are you now LL's little linden wannabe always trying to press your moral outlook on everyone else?

We know you prefer a restricted, opressive, uncreative world already... Quit making threads about it, Christiano.


This is pathetic... Is this what you really spend your time in SL doing?! tracking down potential hotbed issues to whine about in the forums?


OMG lololol - I thought ignorance was bliss but you just proved that cliche' wrong.

Yeah he prefers a 'restricted, opressive, uncreative world' thats why he's created quite a bit of the best merchandise' in the game,thats why he funds both creative,artistic,educational AND fun events oh hell yes Cris prefers a restricted,opressive, uncreative world all right.

I used to think these forums were a total waste of time - thanks for proving it to me Yashu.
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Anthony Lehane
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04-05-2005 20:38
How can you people say that this forum should be locked? This is a serious matter. Someone is being threatened, to be killed in RL, in SL. Do you realize how it would be like for someone to be IMing you death threats, and "i'm going to figure out were you live", and Lindens not doing much about it? This persons account should be deleted for this serious act. It is plain disturbing, and wrong. I agree with you Cristiano.
Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 20:50
From talking to some other people, it appears he went on a spree tonight griefing people. The account is now no longer in Find (he was online just a few hours ago) - so maybe something has been done. I certainly hope so. No one should have to put up with repeated harassment and threats upon their life.
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StoneSelf Karuna
His Grace
Join date: 13 Jun 2004
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04-05-2005 20:54
Liv should speak with the poilce. If not the police, a crisis hotline or other service.

http://www.antistalking.com/resource.htm

If Liv is concerned for her own safety, then she needs to take action for herself, instead of expecting ll to do anything.
From: Cristiano Midnight
Well once again, (edited) (yes, I am naming names) is right back in SL again after a short suspension, with the same death threat aimed at Liv Karuna put right back into his profile, this time with the profanity filtered out. Thank you Linden Lab, glad to see how seriously you took this.
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Chameleon Calliope
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04-05-2005 20:55
From: Yashu Vindaloo
he doesn't target anyone specific in that profile...


Plus, are you now LL's little linden wannabe always trying to press your moral outlook on everyone else?

We know you prefer a restricted, opressive, uncreative world already... Quit making threads about it, Christiano.


This is pathetic... Is this what you really spend your time in SL doing?! tracking down potential hotbed issues to whine about in the forums?

Warped and possibly criminal behavior is NOT something to be defended.
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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 20:56
From: StoneSelf Karuna
Liv should speak with the poilce.


Yep - I cant speak of the country that she lives in but it sure as hell is illegal in mine.
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Yashu Vindaloo
Velvet Dominant
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04-05-2005 21:02
oh come on... you are allowing some annonymous idiot to effect your lives... !!! you are doing exactly what he wants... reacting over it.

Any rational person would dismiss his "threats" as nonsensical bullshit and move on...

Sox... christiano doesn't create as much as he manufactures... repeating what himself and opthers have done... not breaking into new original territory. Mercandise... exactly... you hit the nail on the head there... ooohhhh more dances... yay *another* dance machine.. whoopie.
Cristiano Midnight
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04-05-2005 21:04
From: StoneSelf Karuna
Liv should speak with the poilce. If not the police, a crisis hotline or other service.

http://www.antistalking.com/resource.htm

If Liv is concerned for her own safety, then she needs to take action for herself, instead of expecting ll to do anything.


I advised her to do that on more than one occasion. It is not unreasonable, however, to expect Linden Lab to uphold their own policies and take something like this seriously, instead of giving a short suspension repeatedly. The same person has been suspended repeatedly. Hopefully, the dissappearence of the account from Find is a good sign, though he harassed her under alts as well.
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
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04-05-2005 21:15
From: Yashu Vindaloo
oh come on... you are allowing some annonymous idiot to effect your lives... !!! you are doing exactly what he wants... reacting over it.

Any rational person would dismiss his "threats" as nonsensical bullshit and move on...

Sox... christiano doesn't create as much as he manufactures... repeating what himself and opthers have done... not breaking into new original territory. Mercandise... exactly... you hit the nail on the head there... ooohhhh more dances... yay *another* dance machine.. whoopie.


So... you like sour grapes, I see. Perhaps some cheese with your whine, sir?

Any 'rational person'... indeed.

Annnnyway... the individual mentioned here, (edited), set off about seven C4 bombs in The Shelter tonight and blew a bunch of new players to the four corners. Hardly an intelligent choice on his part, as he left behind the object which, thanks to 1.6, was readily identified by the club owner and turned over to a liasion.

Along with the reports of those effected, myself included, the scumbucket appears to have been banned. One can only hope it is a permanent punishment for someone who has (from all reports) established a regular routine of harrassing others.

Hurray!! :)
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Sox Rampal
Slinky Vagabond
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04-05-2005 21:28
From: Yashu Vindaloo
oh come on... you are allowing some annonymous idiot to effect your lives... !!! you are doing exactly what he wants... reacting over it.

Any rational person would dismiss his "threats" as nonsensical bullshit and move on...


Threatning someone's well being over the internet,telephone,mail is illegal - end of story.

Are you aware Yashu that most threats are born of fantasies and that many fantasies become realities?Even the the most optimistic among us can recognise harmless internet babble and seperate it from something more sinister so please dont genralise because we are not stupid.

But you ARE correct in one respect - it is indeed what he wants and is in fact quite possibly his whole reason for being here,I've encountered quite a few men whose sole purpose on the internet is to breed fear because fear feeds fantasies.

Is that too deep for 5am?

Maybe it is, but even after repeated threads ( this is the third on this subject that I can remember) and numerous abuse reports this man has once again been allowed back into Second Life. This is a new kind of criminal for a new age and like it or not these kind of people DO exist here and it's Linden Labs refusal to take action that is the point of contention here.

After less than a year in SL I've encountered too many of these men to even remember,I've had many women seek refuge in my club who have been genuinly scared of these people,is that something we should ignore? My opinion is this - if this person can cause GENUINE concern or fear then something is wrong with the way they are behaving,something that needs to be looked at with more than the usual 7 day ban.

Cienna I think I love you !!!!!
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