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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
03-13-2005 22:11
OK, I'll come clean.

Answer- I wear a scanner. I cruise around in hopes of encountering released land.
Answer- I own land in the sim. I have a scanner there.
Answer- I buy 16m plots which host a script, which IM's me if land is released nearby.
Answer- I have permission to host a script by a land owner.
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
03-13-2005 22:13
From: Schwanson Schlegel
The same places you do.


You have scanners on my land? Wrong answer Schwanson.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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03-13-2005 22:14
From: Weedy Herbst
You have scanners on my land? Wrong answer Schwanson.


Where the other answers good enough for you?
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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03-13-2005 22:16
From: Schwanson Schlegel
Where the other answers good enough for you?


They were not answers, you are side stepping the issue with assertions.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
03-13-2005 22:17
OOOOH I got one!

I have figured out how to enable god mode. It's totally bitchin'.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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03-13-2005 22:21
From: Weedy Herbst
They were not answers, you are side stepping the issue with assertions.


But you told me they were acceptable answers. I just don't get it I guess.
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
03-13-2005 22:26
From: Schwanson Schlegel
But you told me they were acceptable answers. I just don't get it I guess.


I never suggested they were acceptable answers. In fact you the only answers you gave were obviously wrong.
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Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
03-13-2005 23:36
you two should get a room IMHO :^)
Pete Fats
Geek
Join date: 18 Apr 2003
Posts: 648
03-14-2005 00:22
huns hit it on the head
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Risa Edo
Registered User
Join date: 9 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
03-14-2005 02:01
Amusing in some strange way that the only post Pete made in any way relating to his rogue script was advertising. I wonder if he owns Hilton stock, wouldn't that make the post a TOS violation? :)
Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
03-14-2005 04:52
From: Weedy Herbst
Why can't you just answer my question?

Where do you get your information on released land?



Who appointed you lead investigator for the SL Gastapo.....heres a clue mind your own fucking business because trust me the more you target people that target will come back and be planted on your own ass.
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Shiryu Musashi
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Join date: 19 Nov 2004
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03-14-2005 05:50
From: Talen Morgan
Who appointed you lead investigator for the SL Gastapo.....heres a clue mind your own fucking business because trust me the more you target people that target will come back and be planted on your own ass.


And who appointed you to decide who can post and what they can post in the forum? Again i have to tell you that you are NO ONE to tell us what and how to post in the forums.
Your mafia-like threats intimidate no one.
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
03-14-2005 06:00
From: Talen Morgan
heres a clue mind your own fucking business

Now you know how people feel when these objects appear over their land every 45secs or so. ;)
Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
03-14-2005 06:11
From: Shiryu Musashi
And who appointed you to decide who can post and what they can post in the forum? Again i have to tell you that you are NO ONE to tell us what and how to post in the forums.
Your mafia-like threats intimidate no one.



Point blank you and Weedy are asshats looking to crucify whoever you can....now its Schwan....who's next?

By the way I made no threats but the persistant persecution by you and your lill peasant rabble will come back to you ....people don't seem to like idiots with pitch forks and torches.
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
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03-14-2005 06:15
From: Weedy Herbst
He grabs released land from multiple sims where he owns no land. I'm still waiting for your answer Schwanson.



Ok ok Im not suppose to tell this







...but








...well see








...Um






... Schwan has over 4000 sheep girlfriends so buy having them roam SL they never truly meet eachother and they report back to him when they find free land..;)

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Annah Zamboni
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03-14-2005 06:34
Yeah but do they consumate the deal once the land is purchased? ;)
Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
03-14-2005 06:44
Alright, I confess! I am the one providing Schwanson with public data locations!
But I don't have to use a script to do it, since apparently I am omniscient!
See this thread: /120/40/38667/1.html

One thing tho... How can I be omniscient if I didn't know about it!? :eek:
Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
03-14-2005 06:48
From: Eggy Lippmann
One thing tho... How can I be omniscient if I didn't know about it!? :eek:

Maybe you are just 1 egg in the Eggy collective? Some other egg knew about this.
Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
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03-14-2005 06:54
From: Talen Morgan
Point blank you and Weedy are asshats


Told by you is almost a compliment :D

From: someone
looking to crucify whoever you can....now its Schwan....who's next?


I am not crucifying Schwanson, i think weedy posed some questions that are worth of consideration and that Schwanson didn't still answer in a way that clears any suspect.
Seeing people regularly swoop down 1 minute after land is released quite gives out the fact that they has an automated way of detecting public land. If this is linked to Pete's scanners this is not for me to say, but this sure causes some ethical problems, see the example weedy brought. Someone accidentally releases land (unfortunately it seems to be easier than what i thought) schwanson swoops down before they can buy it again, buys the land, reprices it and then logs out, quite an unethical way to behave in my eyes, but everyone is entitled to his own opinion and business model i guess.

From: someone
By the way I made no threats but the persistant persecution by you and your lill peasant rabble will come back to you ....people don't seem to like idiots with pitch forks and torches.


Right now people don't seem to like people with self replicating sneaky land scanners :D
And due to the FPS increase reported today i think MANY will be thankful expecially to weedy and his grid/wide investigation. I for one am thankful.
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Talen Morgan
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Join date: 2 Apr 2004
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03-14-2005 07:09
From: Shiryu Musashi
Told by you is almost a compliment :D



I am not crucifying Schwanson, i think weedy posed some questions that are worth of consideration and that Schwanson didn't still answer in a way that clears any suspect.
Seeing people regularly swoop down 1 minute after land is releasedquite gives out the fact that he has an automated way of detecting public land. If this is linked to Pete's scanners this is not for me to say, but this sure causes some ethical problems, see the example weedy brought. Someone accidentally releases land (unfortunately it seems to be easier than what i thought) schwanson swoops down before they can buy it again, buys the land, reprices it and then logs out, quite an unethical way to behave in my eyes, but everyone is entitled to his own opinion and business model i guess.




#1 Schwanson has no need to clear himself of unfounded rumours started by weedy which are based upon the fact that Schwanson and Pete are in 1 group together.

And here you go again....stating Schwanson swoops down and buys the land...reprices...and logs out and then calling it unethical behavior. I would venture to guess you have no idea how Schwanson runs his business but you have no problem plastering your suspicions on the forums for others to take as fact.
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
03-14-2005 07:13
From: Tcoz Bach
Since it sounds fun, and obviously isn't against the TOS (The lindens have known about this for months, including the player responsible, and have apparently decided it's all good), I'll make grid scanners available on request. Let me know and I'll start building them today.

Just like Pete does, they will spawn roughly 100 or so objects, temp on rez and invis, with full land and avatar scanning ability, and send them out across the grid, in a 2d circular radius, at about 30 meters up.

Let's all do it and join in Pete's party! In fact, let's find his land, and have ALL our scanners sweep his areas! Hey it's not malicious. We're just interested in the publicly available info in that area, and have decided to use a mechanism that the Lindens deem legal and within the TOS.

If you're interested in how to do it, I'll teach you! Perpaps a public class held in Varney. If we turn on beacons, we can even observe an active pattern of usage by watching Pete's wondrous implementation. A live working example!

No foul right? No TOS violation, all public info, temp on rez and all so very minor to no sim impact.

I'm serious btw. I will build them and give them away for free. Why not? Consideration of other people's feelings? A wish to be civil and unintrusive?

Pfft. I can profit from this info, it's legal. All I have to do is not give a damn what anybody thinks. Thanks for the idea!


I'm in! I want one of your flying things too, how much are they? :)
Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,045
03-14-2005 07:15
From: Talen Morgan
#1 Schwanson has no need to clear himself of unfounded rumours started by weedy which are based upon the fact that Schwanson and Pete are in 1 group together.


No he has no need to, but then he can't complain if people keep their own opinions on his business model :D

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And here you go again....stating Schwanson swoops down and buys the land...reprices...and logs out and then calling it unethical behavior. I would venture to guess you have no idea how Schwanson runs his business but you have no problem plastering your suspicions on the forums for others to take as fact.


You know, it's called discussion, he is absolutely free to defend himself, explain his behavioir or deny it if he wants. If he doesnt want to it's his choice. :D
Trying to intimidate people and to choke their opinion to avoid their expression kinda makes me think there is something to hide :D
Ah, and doesn't work with me :D
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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03-14-2005 07:17
From: Shiryu Musashi
I am not crucifying Schwanson, i think weedy posed some questions that are worth of consideration and that Schwanson didn't still answer in a way that clears any suspect.


Suspect of what? I answered Weedy. I gave him the exact answers he was looking for.
Please keep going with this though, it has been the most forum fun I have had in a while.
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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
03-14-2005 07:20
From: Shiryu Musashi
No he has no need to, but then he can't complain if people keep their own opinions on his business model :D



You know, it's called discussion, he is absolutely free to defend himself, explain his behavioir or deny it if he wants. If he doesnt want to it's his choice. :D
Trying to intimidate people and to choke their opinion to avoid their expression kinda makes me think there is something to hide :D
Ah, and doesn't work with me :D


Funny I always thought a discussion was the exchange of ideas between 2 or more people.


It's not disscussion when you accuse someone of unethical behavior without proof....that is libel.
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
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Posts: 5,898
03-14-2005 07:22
My only complaint about you talen is that i can't believe is that after 2,466 posts you actually let yourself get seriously dragged into these conversations.
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