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Was I the Only One Who Lurked?

blaze Spinnaker
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09-24-2005 13:12
I think it'd be better that people start lurking after a few months rather than stopped.
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Chip Midnight
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09-24-2005 13:26
From: blaze Spinnaker
I think it'd be better that people start lurking after a few months rather than stopped.


You first Blaze :D
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Ronnie Revere
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09-24-2005 14:43
Me too..........lurking, listening and learning;)
Brian Livingston
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09-24-2005 20:01
I'm *still* lurking for the most part, although I do occasionally chime in, this being a prime example :p. I suppose i do have over 140 posts, but considering I've been a member for going on 22 months, that is a little more than 5 posts a month :o

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Susie Boffin
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09-24-2005 20:05
I don't think I lurked at all as I was so eager to show off my supreme wisdom to others even though I was a noob and still am.
Katja Marlowe
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09-24-2005 23:28
From: Cocoanut Koala


And I would definitely disagree with anyone who thinks one should lurk a forum in order to discern the prevailing opinions and then fall into lock-step. Particularly as such opinions and sentiments on any forum change over time. As for the culture and mores involved, most forums are more alike than not. It's not like studying a magazine before submitting an article proposal to it, to make sure your idea fits in. It is free for all ideas and opinions.

Having said all that, it's really different strokes for different folks as to who lurks and who's a loudmouth. And the lurkers DEFINITELY save themselves more time, lol.

coco

P.S. I HAD already seen the opinions on it. I didn't start my own brand-new thread without reading anything else. It doesn't take months to read enough of the context to have an idea what the issue is to the point where you can put in your own opinion.

In other words, if you have been playing the game a little bit, and there is something you run into which doesn't seem to work right - like the removal of the stipends for events - then there is no reason NOT to come to the forums to discuss it.



Are you trying to insinuate that I lurked to fall in lock step with others? *raises eyebrows* I'm not getting that comment. The way you post things sometimes are not very clear. However, I am making the assumption, that yes, you are directing that at me, because otherwise, why put it in direct response to my post? So, I'll answer it as such. I have not fallen lock step in with anyone. In fact, I agree and disagree with people all the time. As I mentioned directly in this thread, I've gotten into it before with Ingrid. I agreed and disagreed with you on numerous occasions. I defended Prok once or twice and even ARed a couple of responses to him that I felt went over the line. I also disagreed with him. So I'm confused as to who's line I'm supposed to be following? I agree with Enabran a lot, I agree with Nolan a lot, I disagree with them. Am I following their line? Gee, nice to be branded a follower. And hypocritical to boot. Just because you couch the insult and the derogatory comment within some nice language and don't directly refer to anyone doesn't make it any less insulting than the ones that you've had that you cry foul on all the damn time.

And it's nice to get a further explanation of what you meant by your original post. However, I'm going to point out that the original post made it seem as if you just marched right in with the most miniscule of information and posted on it. And questions and opinions? They're not the same. If you could be more clear in your original posts instead of trying to explain later, it would be helpful :) ty.
Katja Marlowe
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09-24-2005 23:33
From: Maeve Morgan
I seem to be a lurk master, I don't have a very high post count to begin with and The first post I can find of mine is from December of last year and I joined April 2004. I only post when I have something important to say or think I can make people laugh. I mainly watch the springeresque forum baqttles and laugh. :D


Heh. I tell friends of mine who don't go to forums, ooh, you need to go to general, it's sometimes like a car accident.
Katja Marlowe
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09-24-2005 23:34
From: Enabran Templar
Uh, whoa. wtf. Eagle eye. Impressive.

I think you just solved a critical mystery. Much is explained in this revelation. Bravo.


Too bad there wasn't a Drew as last name when I joined. I could have been Nancy Drew. :P lol
Cocoanut Koala
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09-25-2005 00:42
From: Katja Marlowe
Are you trying to insinuate that I lurked to fall in lock step with others? *raises eyebrows* I'm not getting that comment. The way you post things sometimes are not very clear. However, I am making the assumption, that yes, you are directing that at me, because otherwise, why put it in direct response to my post? So, I'll answer it as such. I have not fallen lock step in with anyone. In fact, I agree and disagree with people all the time. As I mentioned directly in this thread, I've gotten into it before with Ingrid. I agreed and disagreed with you on numerous occasions. I defended Prok once or twice and even ARed a couple of responses to him that I felt went over the line. I also disagreed with him. So I'm confused as to who's line I'm supposed to be following? I agree with Enabran a lot, I agree with Nolan a lot, I disagree with them. Am I following their line? Gee, nice to be branded a follower. And hypocritical to boot. Just because you couch the insult and the derogatory comment within some nice language and don't directly refer to anyone doesn't make it any less insulting than the ones that you've had that you cry foul on all the damn time.

And it's nice to get a further explanation of what you meant by your original post. However, I'm going to point out that the original post made it seem as if you just marched right in with the most miniscule of information and posted on it. And questions and opinions? They're not the same. If you could be more clear in your original posts instead of trying to explain later, it would be helpful :) ty.

No, Katja. I was responding to the O.P. If I said that in a post to you, then yes, it is just my general lack of clarity when saying something to an individual then going on to talk more generally without indicating a clear deliniation.

Questions, opinions, whatever - yes, I think new players should feel perfectly free to jump right in with all of them. Or to lurk, should that be their personal preference.

And my opinion is no one should be expected to hang around long enough to determine the appropriate pecking order or things of that nature. Or even what is a "no-no" to say.

coco
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Nolan Nash
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09-25-2005 00:44
From: Cocoanut Koala
No, Katja. I was responding to the O.P. If I said that in a post to you, then yes, it is just my general lack of clarity when saying something to an individual then going on to talk more generally without indicating a clear deliniation.

Questions, opinions, whatever - yes, I think new players should feel perfectly free to jump right in with all of them. Or to lurk, should that be their personal preference.

And my opinion is no one should be expected to hang around long enough to determine the appropriate pecking order or things of that nature. Or even what is a "no-no" to say.

coco

Too bad the only "pecking order" is established by those who imagine it...
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Enabran Templar
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09-25-2005 00:47
From: Nolan Nash
Too bad the only "pecking order" is established by those who imagine it...


Ho'd up.

So if I imagine myself to be the Czar of the Metaverse and thus at the top of the pecking order, it magically becomes so?

I am so getting down on that action.

Start imagining me with a crown, whiners. Enabran's moving on up!
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Cocoanut Koala
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09-25-2005 00:49
Nolan, Enabran - I'm really not interested in this with you anymore. I guess you can consider that a victory.

coco
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Torley Linden
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09-25-2005 00:50
From: Nolan Nash
Too bad the only "pecking order" is established by those who imagine it...


I can't help but think of "Your world, your imagination" when you say that. On a sidenote and meant very generally (not addressed to anyone in specific but drawing from my own experiences), I never related much to social hierarchies, which is why I got on poorly in school until I learned to better manage things and take instructions+orders. I'm still pretty freewheelin' tho.
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Giddeon Charming
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09-25-2005 00:53
I cant believe I jsut went threw 6 pages of this crap! lurk, dont lurk, who cares! It is in no way anybodies right here to tell someone when and if they should post ona forum. Please reply, I am sooOOoooo interested to hear what anyone has to say abuot this post, but then again, I will probably never come back here agins so....
Cocoanut Koala
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09-25-2005 00:57
Y'all, I'm not the one who came up with the pecking order concept. That was Cienna, I believe. I'm the one who said I don't give a damn about your damned pecking order. I'm not the one who came up with the concept of waiting to find out what the prevailing thinking or culture was, either. That was Jauani, I believe. And I believe I said to hell with that, too.

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Enabran Templar
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09-25-2005 00:58
From: Cocoanut Koala
Y'all, I'm not the one who came up with the pecking order concept. That was Cienna, I believe. I'm the one who said I don't give a damn about your damned pecking order. I'm not the one who came up with the concept of waiting to find out what the prevailing thinking or culture was, either. That was Jauani, I believe. And I believe I said to hell with that, too.


I thought you were done.

I wanted to believe you.
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Katja Marlowe
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09-25-2005 01:12
From: Enabran Templar
Ho'd up.

So if I imagine myself to be the Czar of the Metaverse and thus at the top of the pecking order, it magically becomes so?

I am so getting down on that action.

Start imagining me with a crown, whiners. Enabran's moving on up!


*bows to the great czar of the metaverse* *hopes this doesn't mean i've lurked long enough to follow the power*
Julian Fate
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09-25-2005 02:03
From: Giddeon Charming
I cant believe I jsut went threw 6 pages of this crap! lurk, dont lurk, who cares! It is in no way anybodies right here to tell someone when and if they should post ona forum. Please reply, I am sooOOoooo interested to hear what anyone has to say abuot this post, but then again, I will probably never come back here agins so....



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Pendari Lorentz
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09-25-2005 06:00
From: Osprey Therian
I just looked and I lurked for 8 months! ===:O
That can't be right... can it? Maybe my first post fell off somewhere.


It is possible that your first thread was lost. When they did the major forum upgrade, a ton of posts were lost. Some lost over a thousand posts they had made. So, just saying it is possible. :)
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Pendari Lorentz
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09-25-2005 06:04
From: Jonquille Noir
I can't remember if I lurked or not. I usually do lurk when entering unfamiliar territory.

How did you guys find out when/where your first post was, for those that linked to them?



I did a search just in the forum archives Jon (using my full name). I had remembered that being my first post. Many posts of mine were deleted with the forum upgrade (see my reply to Osprey above), but I remember linking to that post as my first even before the forum upgrades. It isn't a fail-safe search for everyone, but as long as you have been here, there is a good chance your first post survived. :)
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09-25-2005 07:31
From: Cocoanut Koala
Y'all, I'm not the one who came up with the pecking order concept. That was Cienna, I believe. I'm the one who said I don't give a damn about your damned pecking order. I'm not the one who came up with the concept of waiting to find out what the prevailing thinking or culture was, either. That was Jauani, I believe. And I believe I said to hell with that, too.

coco


Like, yeah and stuff, because like, understanding how sociology works and why you are constantly either choking on your own foot or stepping in shit is like, so pointless and stuff.

What an inept you are, Cocoa. Only someone as self-absorbed as you could come up with a way to say sociological tenets and their related dynamics are pointless and learning about how they reinforce environments like this is not a worthwhile endeavor.

It is with a general sense of delight that I shove a gag into your dysfunctional mouth and hear you no more. Buh-bye and good luck. Honestly, you need it.
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Tateru Nino
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09-26-2005 00:41
From: Enabran Templar

The internet is well known for the "newbie phenomenon," which I will define briefly as newbies who join a board, chat, newsgroup or other community and, without proper familiarization with the community customs and other residents, proceed to make complete asses of themselves without quite knowing why.


*hug* Thanks for noticing me :) MWaaah!

From: Enabran Templar

Again: Am I the only one who values lurking, as a newbie and as an experienced community member?


I think lurking is valid and valuable. Up until recently however (when basic accounts became free), a seven day trial didn't really give you much lurkish opportunities. You either got in and mixed it up (and yourself up) and made the occasional ass of yourself, or you sat on the sidelines and wondered what you were missing.

That said, everyone's been really gentle with me making a fool of myself. And I appreciate that. We all do it now and again. I probably do it a little more often than many because of my arcane and interlocutorious manner of speech, steeped in internal geekiness and left to simmer for at least 20 minutes. Then garnish with...No...wait. Thinking about something else there.

I'm actually surprised at how tolerant most (not all; not 100%; most == Consisting of the greatest number or quantity; greater in number or quantity than all the rest; nearly all) of our residents are of occasional moments of ... sheer foolishness, misstatement, misinterpretation and whatnot. I'm glad that I can accidentally be an ass, and be forgiven on the grid, in most places and circumstances, and without prejudice. Even for accidentally spilling my bag of commas.

It is a happy circumstance which does not appear to extend as well to the forums as it perhaps otherwise might. :rolleyes:
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