Republicans lie again to gain sympathy

ALL the Republicrats, on both sides of the aisle, lie, cheat and steal to protect their rich friends in the private sector. With the Reps leaning further and further right, and the Dems climbing over one another to claim the center, the boat is in serious danger of capsizing.

Frankly, I find Republicans more open about their corrupt prostitution for corporate dollars, and thus much easier to convict. They turn my stomach, but not as much as somebody who professes to champion social justice while turning a blind eye to the malfeasance of big campaign donors.

Until we do something about corporations buying their Legislative and Executive finger puppets wholesale, the only honesty we'll see are occasional flashes from the judiciary.

So, who exactly are you calling a "twit?"

Anyway, to address Neehai's response, it cuts both ways. Both major parties have taken deep dives into questionable waters at various points in history. I would object if your thread title generalized (read: marginalized) any identifiable group. I am not a Republican apologist; I am merely an advocate of placing blame squarely on the perpetrator: Namely, Horowitz in this case. To do otherwise is mere speculation at best.

As for the proposed federal takeover of health care, I seem remember a lot of anecdotes (read: poster children) being fed to the media as justification. How is that any different? And what about my other examples?

Sic semper tyrannis! Death to politicians and their evil cousins the lawyers....

Paolo, I respect that you always try to err on the side of political correctness but I don't think it's a good idea to try and gloss over these incredibly pervasive tactics on the part of the Republican party out of a desire to not offend anyone. In the last ten years the Republican party has abused the truth for the sake of fear mongering to an extent I've never seen before in my lifetime. They need to be called on it. If other Republicans don't like being labeled then perhaps they should speak out against these kinds of blatant lies perpetrated by members of their party. That's not my job. I'll call a spade a spade, and these days the Republican party is a giant lie factory that puts winning ahead of ethics on a habitual basis.

That would be appropriate if it was just David Horowitz. However, it wasn't.

The Republican dogs lapped up that story faster than their own vomit.

Quick… someone look up the definition of a stereotyping bigot.


Um… never mind

Insert the name of any group that has been historically recognized as being the victim of prejudice and bigotry in place or where Neehai and Chip used Republicans and you would be outraged. Just because Republicans tend to be conservative Christians does not make bigotry ok.

A bigoted spade is a bigoted spade… right Chip?

Chip, I think I understand where you are coming from, and in theory, I agree with what you are saying. However, what you stated in your last post is a far cry from the original post that attempts to cite one specific incident as a proof text for maligning an entire group of individuals. It's kind of like punishing the entire classroom for the actions of a couple of bullies. Focusing on the specific players and their related actions / behaviors / incidents is fair game, whereas broad-brush statements are counter-productive, and eventually lead to a group-think mentality. That's not about political correctness; that's about correcting a logical fallacy.



Neehai - Your turn to cite examples.

Are you serious?

You could start with the news and most conservative pundits. When I have a few hours I'll see if I can put together an itemized list for you.

While I'm doing that could you cite some examples of sunlight? Thanks.

If it were an isolated thing I'd agree with you completely, Paolo. Unfortunately it has become the rule rather than the exception.



Speaking out against things I find dishonest and wrong-headed, be it Republican propaganda tactics, or Evangelical Christian philisophy does not make me a bigot Billy. I wish you'd be as quick to apply ciritical thinking to things as you are to cry prejudice and bigotry whenever something you believe in is challenged. It's a cop out. You're not a victim. You just like to paint yourself as one.

Neehai and company can fuss all they want, but the fact still remains. Republicans have grown to become the populous party of America and Democrats have become the party of Special Interest Niche groups which do not reflect America and the beliefs of the MAJORITY of Americans.


If Republicans are so evil as Neehai and Co. want the world to believe, then surely there must be some explaination of how the entire Congress is Majority Republican (AND) gained even more seats in the House and Senate in 2004? HEhehehe, Must be that more people in America identify with and believe the Republicans more so than the Democrats.

IMO, the Democratic party has latched onto too many FAR LEFT groups who've hijacked the Democratic Party into their own vehicle to spread leftist ideals that don't ring across the land. Once A Republican getting elected in The South was impossible. It was a Democratic Stronghold since the 1800s. But in the last 15/years, the Democrats have fallen by the wayside because of radicals like Neehai. Which is fine with me, because the farther left they wanna drag the Democratic Party, the more the Republican Party will be taking in new members. So more power to Neehai and Co.


Executive Branch:
(R) George W. Bush

Legislative Branch:
(R) House: 232 Seats (202 - Democrats)
(R) Senate: 55 Seats (44 - Democrats / 1 - Independent)

Judicial Branch:
(R) 5 Justices (4 - Democrats)

State Governors:
(R) 28 Governors (22 - Democrats)



The Leftist nuts can't say anything, because the numbers speak for themselves. We The People have spoked and it clearly says "Democrats Go Home"

I am quite sure that bigots throughout history would agree with such logic. You and Neehai continually stereotype entire groups of people because of the actions of a few and make broad sweeping generalizations lumping everyone together. It is based on your preconceived notions, not on facts that represent the whole.

You are intelligent, articulate, passionate, intellectual and a bigot my friend. It would be refreshing to see you say something positive every once in a while instead of this constantly negative barrage of petty insults and hate mongering. I would like to think that you would give more thought to what you have to say and how you say it, maybe I expect too much.

Ha! The rest of you have been reduced to "Co." So says Alby.

I don't know. It could be because the Republican party spewed lies like the one in this thread saying that evil liberal professors were failing students because they wouldn't write a midterm essay on why George Bush was a war criminal. Or maybe it was because they paid jouralists with tax dollars to promote their failed agendas. There are so many reason.

Perhaps they do believe Republicans. Oopsie! It was a lie. Liar liar pants on fire.

Yes, the truth and fiscal responsibility are radical ideas. I'm surprised no one else thought of it.
I can also radically tell the "brown people" apart.

How much would you pay for a government like this? $50 Billion? $100 Billion? $250 Billion?

That's right, $427 Billion! A record defecit to back up a record surplus.

Cost to the average American family? $38,172

Gee, these tax cuts sure taste yummy!

You can say that again!

In my home state of North Carolina George Bush proposes underfunding No Child Left Behind by $282.1 million in his 2006 budget, leaving behind 66,631 children. Holy number crunchers Batman! That's a lot of children. The numbers speak for themselves.

Bush promised to fund Pell Grants in his State of the Union address, but his budget is $6.6 billion short. That's $181.7 million less than what's needed in North Carolina, a real burden for the 127,863 students in North Carolina who receive the grants. The numbers speak for themselves.

Bush cuts $13.9 million from North Carolina job training programs in his 2006 budget. That seems odd given his alternative job training pep tal in the State of the Union, but the numbers speak for themselves.

The Bush budget would require many veterans to pay a new $250 annual "user fee" to use the Veterans Administration health care system, and would double the prescription drug co-payment for the 792,646 North Carolina veterans. Ouch! You boys overseas better dodge those bullets! The numbers speak for themselves.

Oh, I agree with your last post Alby. The Democratic Party is imploding before our very eyes. People like Neehai and Chip are helping drive people further away and destroying any hope that they have of assembling enough support for a run for the presidency in 2008. Nothing I can do or say could be more effective in exposing the guttural hatred that exists in not only the Democratic Party leadership but within many of its ranks.

Those of you who are part of the Democratic party but have not fallen so far to the left should get a handle on this before it is too late, if it isn't already. Personally, I would like to see us all meet more in the middle instead of watching the Democratic Party waste away. A 1 party system isn't good for anyone.

The epitome of a sour grapes attitude is that when we lose, lets do everything in our power to tear down the other guy instead of finding a way to support what he does that it right. It is divisive, petty and not good for our country. I have very little respect for such actions. How about trying to focus all of this energy on something positive for a change or is that asking too much?

And back in the day, the general consensus was that women were too stupid to vote, and that slavery was just dandy. What's your point?

what should those of us too left for the Democratic party do?

hahahahahahahahaha!

That is a textbook of Republican actions during the Clinton administration. Could you have wasted any more money on special investigations?

The Judicial branch is nonpartisan. Or it's supposed to be. If you have a judge who chooses party lines over looking at the facts and case history, well, you've got a bad judge.

Touche'. That's no justification for the marginalization going on here, though. The pendulum will eventually swing the other direction, have no doubt about that. When that happens, I hope that this thread will remain archived so that we can simply copy and paste, changing only the party of reference. What a time-saver that will be.

If the Democrats were any further to the center, they might as well call themselves Republican and go party down with Ken Lay.

Centrism is very popular with big campaign donors. But as the Democrats have found to their chagrin, running centrist candidates isn't working anymore. They need to embrace their core constituents on the left before making a play for the undecideds in the middle.

Meanwhile the Republicans are fracturing right down the middle, as fiscal moderates wake up in bed with fundamentalist extremists. They're trying to maintain a unified front, but the President can't even rely on the support of his own party in Congress on key aspects of his agenda.

I laugh at you all. The revolution is coming. Watch for it. And I look sharp in a beret.

Ooh, please order me an XXL one too, raspberry if possible..

MOMMY... THE OTHER KID DID IT SO IT MUST BE OK FOR ME... RIGHT?

Is that REALLY the stance you want to take Neehai?

You may think that if you wish, Billy. I find it interesting however that instead of addressing the actual issues raised you choose to label me a bigot instead. I suppose I'm also unpatriotic and unamerican. I also eat babies.

you guys type too much

That is actually a very interesting question. Let me ponder it as I drive home from work and I'll attempt to give a more well thought out response.

If you say so Chip.

A bigoted spade is a bigoted spade. I am sorry if the truth hurts.