I'm laughing. This is funny.
I was subjected to horrible content as a child and I turned out just fine... Sortof...
If you don't want them viewing it, don't leave them alone with the computer.
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Baba Yamamoto
baba@slinked.net
Join date: 26 May 2003
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05-09-2004 23:21
I'm laughing. This is funny.
I was subjected to horrible content as a child and I turned out just fine... Sortof... If you don't want them viewing it, don't leave them alone with the computer. |
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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Re: Re: My 2 cents for what its worth
05-09-2004 23:42
Originally posted by Regnar Bell Baccara, The only thing that I want to see out of this whole thing is very simple. All that I ask is that Linden Lab put a statement on its main page to the effect that Second Life. It is a very simple request. I simply can not believe that no one gets it. People would rather ramble on and so be it, they do not care who they personally attack, call names or whatnot. I will not drop down to that level here the point is simple and clear. If you don't want people under 18 here then state so on your main page. Don't hide it in the signup or tos. Its a very simple issue. It's a matter of perception. If you walked into a Borders bookstore, and before you came in, there was a blinking red siren, and red tape everywhere, and a loudpseaker, shouting, very loudly, that Borders contains adult content and should not be entered by anyone under the age of 18, would you want to go in there? Even if there was just a sign on the door. Most people in our prudish, puritannical society would avert their gaze and go to the "family friendly" bookstore across the street. If SL were to put "this game is for 18+ only" on the front page, tons of people would get the impression that it's a 24 hour virtual orgy. Yes, they would. Did the "parental advisory" stickers on cds stop 80% of teens from listening to the music anyway? Did "Rated R" movies stop being seen by kids as soon as the rating was invented? Bah. Josh _____________________
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Garth FairChang
~ Mr FairChang ~
Join date: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 275
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05-10-2004 00:49
Still waiting for a link to the 'So called' Offensive thread ?
Where is it Regnar? _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,328
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Re: Re: Re: Re: My 2 cents for what its worth
05-10-2004 05:37
Originally posted by Regnar Bell You are correct. But they do have a sticker now dont they? Didn't do any good either, did it? Whats the point of doing something if it doesn't do any good? Optimisim is trying an unlikly solution to a problem the first time. Futility is trying the same solution again when its been proven to not work the first time. |
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Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
Posts: 762
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05-10-2004 05:57
Originally posted by Reitsuki Kojima Optimisim is trying an unlikly solution to a problem the first time. Futility is trying the same solution again when its been proven to not work the first time. Insanity is trying the same thing repeatedly, and expecting a different result. _____________________
Grim
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Jarod Godel
Utilitarian
Join date: 6 Nov 2003
Posts: 729
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05-10-2004 06:12
Dear Ragner Bell,
Password. Screensaver. Look it up. Loathingly yours, Jarod Godel _____________________
"All designers in SL need to be aware of the fact that there are now quite simple methods of complete texture theft in SL that are impossible to stop..." - Cristiano Midnight
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Anshe Chung
Business Girl
Join date: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 1,615
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05-10-2004 06:42
I have children myself and I select carefully what media (TV, websites,...) they can access. I check media sources beforehand and only allow them to browse what I put in the bookmark list. I also once in a while "surprise" them to make sure they don't switch to things I don't consider appropriate for them.
Sorry, but I think the original poster on this thread is simply in desperate need for attention :-/ |
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
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05-10-2004 07:03
Woo Hoo its True 2 + 2 does in fact equal 4.
Ok where am I going with this, Simple I posted in sarcasim previously about the fact that the father took offense to the WWII posting as it was one of his Die hard games that he plays. In retrospect to that he was prolly surfing the web with his daughter knowing full and well that the WWII game was the partial demise of his marriage thus when his daugher of undetermined age seen "Lame A.. WWIIoler's" it confirmed her initial thoughts on what MOMMY had said about daddy thus infuriating him to the point of Slam dunking Regnar. Remember this is an educated guess or speculation based on facts provided thus far even eliminating the previous set up threads that were given. I simply took A+B+C+D and came up with E. Second life is not a "Porn" haven there are many many builds places and people that do not participate n those arena's. I mean there are Churches, Weddings, Pastors building Churches this place is riddled with a multitude of individuals that know people have to be diverse and different which makes each and every one of us Unique. But the biggest thing I do not see people doing is summarly dumping thier Real Life problems on the world at large and blaming the world for their mistakes and muck ups. This whole issue is absurd and I admit I added to the inflamtory commentary but never used a personal insult. But in Closing this statement I will comment this one last time. Regnar, if drama is what you seek then you have had your fill for quite a while. I strongly dissagree with your request to have this forum or any forum locked up as that would be a vilation of my civil rights of free speach. If you continue to pursue this I know several people that would back anyone that decided to bring a class action lawsuit against you for trying to infringe on our rights. I have not threatend you here neither vieled or direct so dont presume that I have and start chanting that I am against you and need to be banned because I am the devil incarnate. I am however against your views to try to encrouch on my civil rights. I harbor no ill will towards you nor your friend but as a sworn enemy once told me. "Mow your own grass before you start telling me mine is too high." Sincerely, Shadow Weaver _____________________
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Max Mandala
Member
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 19
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05-10-2004 07:30
This one's for Regnar: Wat ben jij een ongelooflijke zeikerd...
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,328
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05-10-2004 08:04
Originally posted by Shadow Weaver I strongly dissagree with your request to have this forum or any forum locked up as that would be a vilation of my civil rights of free speach. If you continue to pursue this I know several people that would back anyone that decided to bring a class action lawsuit against you for trying to infringe on our rights. Actually, while I disagree in every possible with with Regnar, I have to take exception to this too. You have no "rights" on the internet regarding free speach, not when your posting on privatly owned forums. Never have, and I pray to god, never will. Just like I can kick you out of my home for saying the word "Eyedrop" if the notion so strikes my mind, or just for no reason at all, so to can the owners of a privatly owned forum make whatever restrictions they like. |
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Regnar Bell
Senior Member
Join date: 11 Aug 2003
Posts: 84
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In Conclusion
05-10-2004 08:40
[I* have asked linden lab to delete my account and have contacted a lawyer.
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Azrazael Maracas
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 158
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05-10-2004 08:44
Regnar...thats SL forums...you post here...itsd like an invitation to a flame war or free for all insulting fest...
...well some of SL ingame isn't any different in that I guess.... _____________________
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
Join date: 9 Jul 2003
Posts: 390
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05-10-2004 08:44
The messages in question were something about Lame w2 group and an attention wh*** and so on. Wow, interesting that you mention the two posts people suggested. I now believe this to be contrived. You also mention people with 'colorful' metaphors in the signatures. What the heck (edited for children) was the parent doing delving into the page and looking at signature lines once he saw the offensive title posts. I absolutely believe now that you don't have a friend, and that this non existent friend doesn't have a child. That makes this a direct attack on SL and its citizens, and believe me when I say, I take personal offense at that. It's doubly offensive, and ignorant on your part, to assume that the adults here couldn't discuss this issue rationally without your little contrived scenario. Bad form! |
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Snark Serpentine
Fractious User
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 379
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05-10-2004 08:47
Wait, wait. YOU spoke to Mr. Rosedale?
What about your deeply insulted and disturbed friend? Do we get to hear about that conversation? If we don't, people might worry that you've been fibbing. |
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Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
Posts: 762
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05-10-2004 08:59
Hmm.
And here I thought Philip was still in Korea. _____________________
Grim
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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Re: In Conclusion
05-10-2004 09:00
Originally posted by Regnar Bell Folks, I did speak briefly to Mr. Rosedale this morning. I do want to say something here . . Did anyone else notice it was barely 8 am on the west coast when this was posted? You can reach the CEO of a company that early in the morning? Impressive. Cristiano |
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Ananda Sandgrain
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Join date: 16 May 2003
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An Open Letter to Philip
05-10-2004 09:02
Sir,
The starter of this thread clearly does not speak for the community here. He has posted repeatedly of his hatred and disgust for this community. He has insinuated threats both of me and of many others who play here on a regular basis. In fact I believe he is the only person in a year here who has deliberately gone around inworld badmouthing me. My concern here is that he is exerting undue influence on you, by calling you personally this time and the many times he has done so before. This, I fear, could have unfortunate consequences for the rest of your community here as he does NOT have our interests at heart. I strongly recommend that you pay no further attention to this person, and that you discontinue any special favors you are paying to him by taking his phone calls. Concentrate on making Second Life a better and more prosperous place for everyone and ignore the yapping dogs. Sincerely, Ananda Sandgrain _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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Re: In Conclusion
05-10-2004 09:17
Originally posted by Regnar Bell Now If you were to go back and think about what what you posted you may just think "Hmmm Self what was this person thinking I think every single person who replied to you stands behind what they said to you - I certainly do. The only person I find myself wondering "what was this person thinking?" is you Regnar. This entire thread is so clearly a fabrication (actually I will go even harsher and flat out say you are lying) and a strange attempt at getting some attention. You claim to be the maligned little lamb here with the poor friend whose daughter is traumatized for life by READING SOME WORDS, when all you have ever shown yourself to be is a drama monger of the highest order. Reread your original "open letter" and you will realize it is not the succicint series of simple requests you backtracked and made later. You came out bashing Phillip, Linden Labs, and all of us and blaming us for your friend's poor judgement. This community will vehemently stand against you - notice not a single person supported you in this thread (although you did bizarrely take an insult about your maturity level as a compliment). There are very few people I have encountered in SL who I think definitely do not belong here, but you are one of them. If you hate SL so much and what it has become and represents, please do not let the proverbial door hit you on the way out. We are not going to change to suit you, as again you have no support from anyone. You certainly always have the right to speak your mind, even in the form of a bizarre open letter, but be prepared for the consequences. Cristiano |
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Jolene Jade
JOJO THE GREAT
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 459
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05-10-2004 09:35
This is silly......once again another attempt to blame some one else for the lack of parenting on the apart of an adult with children....
Just like when that show Jack Ass was held liable for that kid setting himself on fire......blame it on evil Hollywood not the lack of parenting on that mother who tried file a suit against that show.... Please kill this thread..... ![]() this should be in rants.....anyhow |
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Regnar Bell
Senior Member
Join date: 11 Aug 2003
Posts: 84
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Re: Re: In Conclusion
05-10-2004 09:38
[I* have asked linden lab to delete my account and have contacted a lawyer.
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Azrazael Maracas
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 158
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05-10-2004 09:51
*wondering....do kids read disclaimers????
if the forums would be set to passworded...I think this one here is a vbulletin one if I am not completely mistaken...then it has a cookie option which most will utilize...since a constant logging in would be more of an aggravation then a help....would that keep a kid from reading it...also ...what age is this 'kid'? I mean....it obviously can read well enough to browse a forum and seems interested in it...so it can't be that young...then the question arising would be...ho sheltered does this poor soul grow up? Regnar....I think maybe.....just dropping it and getting a book on parenting....maybe even some counselling might be worth a lot more then posting some open letters here.... If you browse the internet....you will notice sites that have disclaimers...yeah..next to some nude girl giving a bj (no not you BigJohn ) ...yeah plenty of disclaimers...maybe even passwords....and plenty of preview pages....the way your kid seems to be able to freely roam the net....don't you think it might have seen those already???? Maybe you are just a bit catching on to the development of this 'kid'? _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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Re: Re: Re: In Conclusion
05-10-2004 09:55
Originally posted by Regnar Bell So Cristino what are you going to do if / and when what I suggested in my letter happens? Are you going to bash me for making the suggestion of a disclaimer ? Are you going to stomp away and quit because you need to log on read all of the forums? Are you going to quit second life ? What gives here? None of these will change yor experiences . . Regnar, I have done you the courtesy of not mispelling your name, yet you do so every time with me. Try paying a little more attention. I honestly doubt what you have "suggested" will happen, but even if it does, that is not the issue here. I am autologged into the forums anyway. You came into this forum laying blame. You and your idiotic friend will not accept any blame here, when you are the only ones at fault. You have made up a situation to suit your strange puritanical crusade to clean up SL. (I believe it was Michi Lumin once who stated that you won't be satisfied until men all wear suits and women carry parasols and curtsey). I notice you have never once responded to the statement of your having lied, because you cannot. You cannot provide proof of what you are talking about, because none exists. Second Life does not need a disclaimer, and it does not need your continual tirades against the SL community. Linden Labs does an excellent job of maintaining the forums - your "friend " just made a lapse in poor parental judgement. Cristiano |
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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05-10-2004 09:56
Originally posted by Azrazael Maracas [B..yeah..next to some nude girl giving a bj (no not you BigJohn )I am sorry I could not resist, it is a rather amusing abbreviation, eh? ![]() |
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Beau Perkins
Second Life Resident.
Join date: 25 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,061
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05-10-2004 10:06
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Merwan Marker
Booring...
Join date: 28 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,706
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05-10-2004 10:13
Originally posted by Jolene Jade Th. Please kill this thread..... ![]() this should be in rants.....anyhow Excellent! _____________________
Don't Worry, Be Happy - Meher Baba
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