Asshat of the Year
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Inez Angelus
Elephant Rider
Join date: 11 Nov 2004
Posts: 129
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12-29-2004 05:49
So I went to Shiryu's fashion show at Dove Vogue Modeling last night - which was wonderful, despite Lag from the Gods - and towards the end, THIS got up on the runway.
(Warning: image probably not safe for work or people that hate Nazis)
I managed to neg rate the guy before he tp'd out and I crashed completely. Didn't get the name, but it did look like he signed up 12/19.
He gave some sort of arcane statement while up on the runway with the models - something like "This is for you, Don Vito" - and walked off.
I have no idea if anyone else saw this ass - when I say massive lag I mean MASSIVE lag - and no one commented on it at the time, which I think was the proper thing to do given the circumstances.
So - not only did this guy grief my good friend and sweetheart Shiryu's big night, but - well, he's dressed like Hitler, fer chrissake. Total asshat.
Someone, anyone that was at the fashion show, please tell me you saw this utter reject and that he was subsequently banned. If he's still floating around, IM me his name and I'll file the abuse report myself.
- Inez (loves furries, has no problem with SA Goons, freakin' HATES Nazis and people that dress like them)
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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12-29-2004 06:10
This guy is beyond asshat. He is a putrid, leaking asshole.
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Kathmandu Gilman
Fearful Symmetry Baby!
Join date: 21 May 2004
Posts: 1,418
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12-29-2004 07:12
I agree, total moron. Hitler would never have been seen in an SS uniform. An atrocious SS uniform at that.
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Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,045
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12-29-2004 07:15
The name of the genius is Carlo Platini, i didnt report him just because i was too busy taking pictures of the actual models and didnt take a pic of him, thank you for posting this one. (and he is even ignorant historically, since he put a Luftwaffe (air force) badge on the breast of a wannabe SS uniform....)
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
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12-29-2004 07:30
EVERYONE NEG RATE CARLO PLATINI FOR DRESSING LIKE HITLER AND BEARING THE NAME CARLO PLATINI! Haha. What a fucktard! 
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Candy Bijoux
Kiss Me
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 130
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12-29-2004 07:44
Heil Asshat lol. No but seriously..that guy was rude if he disrupted that event.
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Korg Stygian
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,105
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12-29-2004 07:45
This is going to result in a huge bunch of flames I am sure, but I don't believe that dressing like Hitler is either a TOS violation or a reason, in and of itself, to neg rate anyone (though I do believe you ultimately have the right to neg rate anyone for anything). Seriously, behavior aside (because I was not there and I think the original post is somewhat skechy as far as describing "outrageous behvior worth negging"  , how is it that a person dressing in an improperly constructed/fashioned replica of a historical outfit and "made up" to look like one of the most influential figures in history deserves a label of "asshat" or any other negative label? IRL, the movie The Producers was a hit by making fun of Hitler, his actions and mannerisms via humor. Chareli Chaplin did the same thing in The Great Dictator. So, the question remains. How is just dressing up like Hitler a TOS violation? How is it offensive at its core - behavior of the avatar aside? Are we going to have to extend this to any and all representations of anything - for instance, to replicas/depictions of Luftwaffe aircraft, to the use of US symbols (as they might be offensive to internationals/American Indians/whatever, to the inclusion of the Union Jack as it was a symbol of Empire for centuries to some? Where do we draw this line? Can it be drawn logically?
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Candy Bijoux
Kiss Me
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 130
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12-29-2004 07:51
I think it was a matter of TOS violation of harrassment if he got up on the modeling stage and disrupted the event without being a part of it.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,941
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12-29-2004 07:54
/sigh So many children crying for attention.
I ran across a couple of WWII'ers the other day at the Winterfest, shooting people and putting fires on peoples builds/sculptures. They were, of course, dressed as a german WWII officer and soldier and were driving one of the german staff cars around.
I flew to the skating area and got shot by one of them, and then got blasted way up in the air. When I landed, I and another bystander went looking for them. I found them setting fire to a Christmas cabin there and confronted them. After a ridiculous and almost amusing confrontation/conversation with them, I sent them packing with a threat to get a Linden here. It was so funny the way they denied everything, yet thier names were on the fires and I saw one of them shoot me.
After they ran away, I did abuse report them, but walked away with a reluctant pity for such sad, lonely and misdirected children.
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
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12-29-2004 07:56
From: Korg Stygian This is going to result in a huge bunch of flames I am sure, but I don't believe that dressing like Hitler is either a TOS violation or a reason, in and of itself, to neg rate anyone (though I do believe you ultimately have the right to neg rate anyone for anything). Seriously, behavior aside (becauseI was not there and I think the original post is somewhat skechy as far as describing "outrageous behvior worth negging"  , how is it that a person dressing in an improperly constructed/fashioned replica of a historical outfit and "made up" to look like one of the most influential figures in history deserves a label of "asshat" or any other negative label. IRL, the movie The Producers was a hit by making fun of Hitler, his actions and mannerisms via humor. Chareli Chaplin did the same thing in The Great Dictator. So, the question remains. How is just dressing up like Hitler a TOS violation? How is it offensive at its core - behavior of the avatar aside? Are we going to have to extend this to any and all representations of anything - for instance, to replicas/depictions of Luftwaffe aircraft, to the use of US symbols (as they might be offensive to internationals/American Indians/whatever, to the inclusion of the Union Jack as it was a symbol of Empire for centuries to some? Where do we draw this line? Can it be drawn logically? I agree that dressing like Hitler isn't a TOS violation in and of itself. However if he is griefing or disrupting an event while doing so, it may at least deserve some neg ratings and a possibly wrist slapping by a Linden.
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Owner - Perilous Pleasures and Extreme Erotica Gallery
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
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12-29-2004 07:57
From: Korg Stygian (though I do believe you ultimately have the right to neg rate anyone for anything). Korg have I neg rated you? If not please remind me when you see me in world! Thanks.
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Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,045
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12-29-2004 07:58
there is a big difference between doing something historically accurate for historicall reproduction sake, and doing somegthing that has absolutely NO historical maning like what this Carlo Platini did. (even not copnsidering his behavioir, that wass in itself awful, invading the stage and the backstage and disturbing the models and the audience). I really doubt such kind of morons need any kind of defence.
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Korg Stygian
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,105
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12-29-2004 08:08
From: Darko Cellardoor snip Dude.. you missed the "neg Korg" event? Your loss not mine. Then again... why should I care if you neg me? You aren't even on my radar. My question to you remains... why would a neg of a person for simply wearing a "uniform of the Third Reich" be a TOS violation or a "justifiable" neg? I'm gonna take a chance that you can put aside your reactionary bias against me and answer the question and give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Hayden Hedges
Registered User
Join date: 11 Mar 2004
Posts: 138
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12-29-2004 08:15
I wouldn't pay much mind to some silly little bugger who clearly just wants to offend. And I agree the costume in itself shouldn't be a TOS issue although sometimes the intent can be an issue.
On another note, I'd like an asshat please. Pink and not too hairy would be best.
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Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
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12-29-2004 08:16
he was not wearing an "uniform of the third reich", he was wearing a wearable insult and provocation and disrupting an event people spent time and effort to organize. Maybe you can put aside your liberal bias to understand this was a despicable behavioir.
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Paris Cellardoor
Jefa del Cartel
Join date: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 867
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12-29-2004 08:16
I have an individual in mind that should be Forum Asshat of the Year....Korg Stygian.  Anyone out there agree?? 
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Korg Stygian
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,105
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12-29-2004 08:19
From: Shiryu Musashi he was not wearing an "uniform of the third reich", he was wearing a wearable insult and provocation and disrupting an event people spent time and effort to organize. Maybe you can put aside your liberal bias to understand this was a despicable behavioir. First... good joke. Me a liberal! LOL Second, I said "behavior aside".. and then asked a question. Read the question.. answer it or don't. But don't read into the question if you are going to try to respond.
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,434
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12-29-2004 08:19
From: Paris Cellardoor I have an individual in mind that should be Forum Asshat of the Year....Korg Stygian.  Anyone out there agree??  Korg who?  Agreed (although i no longer reply to his post or read them).
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Paris Cellardoor
Jefa del Cartel
Join date: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 867
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12-29-2004 08:26
From: MrsJakal Suavage Korg who?  Agreed (although i no longer reply to his post or read them). lol...indeed. He is just a bitter old codger. 
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Inez Angelus
Elephant Rider
Join date: 11 Nov 2004
Posts: 129
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12-29-2004 08:27
I have no idea if dressing like Hitler is a violation of the TOS either. I should have been more specific when I said I neg rated him - I neg rated him on behavior (for disrupting the event) and appearance. From: Korg why would a neg of a person for simply wearing a "uniform of the Third Reich" be a TOS violation or a "justifiable" neg? I'll field that one since I neg rated him. Its justifiable to me for a combination of reasons - mainly, he dressed like this in some sort of attempt to get attention/make some misguided statement about the person he was there to grief (Don Paulo or whoever it was), in the process griefing the entire event of which Don Paulo was just an attendee. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool bleeding heart liberal Democrat, and I still get pissed when people make the comparison Bush = Hitler. Wrongo. Hitler is in a whole other level of hell of his own. I may hate Bush, but to compare anyone to Hitler - or use his image and likeness in order to make some sort of point if you have a grudge against someone - is immature, reactionary and highly offensive, to me at least. You're correct in your assumption that we can't ban everything offensive, because everything is offensive to SOMEONE out there. I'm not saying ban the guy because he wore a Hitler outfit in and of itself - that's what neg ratings are for, a demonstration of one person's opinion. Ban the asshole for the combination of Hitler + Event Griefing. (And Shiryu - I'm so sorry this happened - it was a wonderful show and you did a marvelous job! I'm soooo sorry this asshat picked your event to display his dubious sentiments and air his personal grievances against one of your guests.)
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
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12-29-2004 08:31
From: Korg Stygian I'm gonna take a chance that you can put aside your reactionary bias against me and answer the question and give you the benefit of the doubt. Dude I really cannot put it aside. You are one of the few people in these forums that despite my most sincere efforts I cannot even begin to like. Anyway if you read what I said I was making a joke. I said neg rate him for wearing the suit and having the VERY GERMAN name of CARLO PLATINI. I never mentioned neg rating him because he was wearing the suit. I dont give a fuck man. I am not easily offended. I just see it for what it is, some little immature kid looking for easy shock value. It takes more than that to get me excited man. Remember I live in the Purple Haze!
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Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
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12-29-2004 08:35
Korg, (edited to delete personal attack). 
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Justin Delvecchio
Builder & Clothing Design
Join date: 16 Jun 2004
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12-29-2004 09:08
Darko??? wtf are you talkin bout? Carlo Platini is VERY GERMAN??? noooooo...i think its itialian if anything. i am 100% german, i work for the govornment (wont say how)...and i have luftwaffe tattoo on my arm!!! I am in no way a nazi...or affiliated with anything but keeping america free. Luftwaffe means luft = air....waffe = force. so tell me im a nazi...im dying to hear this. My RL name...well, i wont go saying it, but i will tell you that it is very german and Carlo Platini is not. Go to google...all you see is italian websites being retrieved. Im not sayin he didnt disturb the event...or was not disrespectful...but people are free to WEAR what they want i think (as long as it isnt a big F*** YOU sign). Thats what makes most of the world great. Sorry if i pissed u off...but dont tell me being german is a bad thing...EVER
Justin
P.S. sry for mistypes...very busy at work, but had to respond to this
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Justin Delvecchio
Builder & Clothing Design
Join date: 16 Jun 2004
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12-29-2004 09:13
Oh, and BIG DEAL ABOUT THE PICTURE!!!! people are way too easily offended, jesus...it is a picture. I had family die in WWII...and still am not offended. Work safe?? OMG! lol..ur kidding me. This picture ( not his actions ) are being blown WAY out of proportion!!!
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Justin Delvecchio
Builder & Clothing Design
Join date: 16 Jun 2004
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12-29-2004 09:17
so if u guys wanna get together in world and neg rate me, just lett me know, ill be there...  LOVE YOU ALL
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