Landowning and risk, stop whining!

OMG you're right, going outside IS a risk. What was I thinking?

Yes I am new, and yes I am trying to learn new skills that can contribute to SL. If LL want to take on the metaverse fine, but for goodness sake get SL right first. Same with the teen grid. I am not a tec and don't know about the current hardware/software used by SL but it's obvious that there is a major problem with it.

Nowhere in the SL website does it say, before you become a resident - you can pay to play and buy land etc, but its still in beta. I thought that happend over a year or more ago?

Forget the metaverse, forget the teen grid, please just get this right first.

Oh and additionally, I know the majority of players are US based but just occasionally could the down time not be in European time please? We pay the same and get the raw end of the deal.

Alexa

PS Hiro - this is not whining but a simple request for LL to get it right.

Lynn,

You present your points well. I don't deny that some people have stopped, but I also see constantly people designing new stuff, innovating. Darklife, Neverland, Neualtenburg, Winter Wonderland - a few examples.

I have worn those shoes. My stuff has broken, other stuff has not. How much broken stuff was programmer error, and how much was Linden error - well, that's up for debate.

Less callous? True enough, I'm being somewhat harsh. I've tried voicing my opinion gently in the posts that declare how "irresponsible" and "promise-breaking" Linden Lab has been, but little apparent avail. Understand that I started this thread in the midst of a lot of people posting making it seem like there had been this huge betrayal in trust.

Again, I don't take away from all our legitimate concerns. And I don't take away from our need to press Linden Lab on the most serious ones. However, I draw the line when it comes to people complaining about how they spend all sorts of money and the system isn't perfect. The Internet is risky.

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Korg,

Yes, I did complain when someone ripped off my sword design. I dealt with it, and if you recall the thread, both players and Lindens were cooperative and kind. What I didn't do was droll on about how it was the Lindens' fault. But it's moot - the incident was a player-player dispute, not a broken feature.

I believe you are way, way overstating the "instability" of the Internet. It's used for banking and transaction of billions of dollars by trading houses, payment services, and providers of every kind.

I develop internet based applications for a living with all kinds of teams and such, some of the stuff fairly advanced, and if I EVER said, "it may or may not work, there's no guarantee", I'd starve to death.

In fact, in this day and age, it's practically not worth saying, and does not explain at least three quarters of the problems we endure. Aside from isolated login problems, I would have to say the instability of the internet isn't a factor in any of the problems encountered in SL.

Absolutely correct.

However, consider banking institutions are HUGE companies with enormous resources. They also do one thing - handle money. They don't do 3-D, scripted, custom player content, streaming music, etc etc etc. Remember handling the L$ is just one of the things done in SL, and done reliably so far.

And banks still have errors. I have had inaccuracies in my checking account before that the bank has corrected. So have friends of mine.

But, you do raise a good point in that there is one crucial thing we can learn from the banks - they have an excellent backup system. For Manhattan banks, every day hard backups are shipped via armored cars to New Jersey in case of tragedy. Banks handled Y2K nearly flawlessly. We can definitely look at banks as an example of folks with very secure data protection.


Considering SL is still up about 95-98% of the time, that's hardly "it may or may not work". And I doubt you allow player created 3-D scripted content?

Hell, I've done Internet based apps in past jobs, and they're stable, but I can't say that the stuff I've done (including supporting full websites) could compare to SL in scope and breadth of features.


Okay, I realize now you may have misunderstood me. When I speak of instability of the Internet, what I'm talking about is financially. Most Internet ventures fail. When stockholders actually demanded that websites do something unthinkable like "turn a profit", many many Internet dot-coms busted. Remember?

Starting an Internet business is very risky. This is the sort of perspective that I approach SL ventures. I see people complaining that their Internet ventures are not going well, and I wonder if they've forgotten the dot-com bust of four years ago.

And again, Tcoz, I agree with you that we need to keep pressing LL on instabilities in the system. But that doesn't mean that people can legitimately say that they've been betrayed because their Internet venture on SL is failing.