SL must move beyond the Prokofy & Blaze mindset

Inspired by Kris Ritter.

Discuss!

AMEN TO THAT!!!



*hides*

People come and go in SL. After almost two years of reading forums, I can say that the names of prolific posters on forums have switched and changed around so much that, indeed, the old adage about the only constant being change applies here in spades.

What SL needs is people engaged in building and playing in and arguing about the ever-shifting landscape and community that is SL. In SL, you're free to have just about any mindset you want and argue at length about it on forums, as long as it doesn't interfere with the TOS or CS, and that's "excellent!"

LOL!

Well too right as well. If there is any overriding mindset and attitudes that are damaging the community, it's theirs!

Fscking hypocrites.

Do you really feel this way? I hate to be part of the "sky is falling" crowd but I feel like the tone of the forums have changed. There have always been trolls but I always felt their coverage was spotty. Lately, however, I feel like there is a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to sabotage every single thread, even ones of the most benign nature. I really don't think things were like this 2-4 months ago.

Obviously those "certain individuals" have things to say about this (blaa blaa blaa) but how do the rest of you feel? Are the forums as functional a place to exchange ideas as they were 2-4 months ago? I will gladly temper my opinion on this if serious posters feel that things are not as bad as they seem.



YAY!

Merwan, what is going on with you lately? You're acting all shorted. First of all, you KNOW this thread is in violation of the forum policies.

Secondly, why have you resorted to attacking other SL residents? This does not lend well to your credibility at all.

Dissappointed,
Jamie

Dammit Aimee!

I tried to be a good troll, but they came and took over!!!

Bahaha.

There goes the fucking lynch mob, off again.

Where's that pitchfork graphic..

The fact is we're not sabotaging anything. We're attempting to encourage a vision of LL that is successful and you simply disagree with that vision.

Most often all you can do is resort to ad hominem and straw men as the evidence is there that some of these ideas are reasonable.

I'm not saying they're perfect, they're not, but having a world where people value what we do and are inspired in a way that doesn't require a comp sci degree seems wholey reasonable to me and doesn't involve sabotaging at all.

I'm sorry you can't see that. However, I can.

Jamie show me where I have attacked others?
And as I read the TOS, this is not a violation.

Have a hoe, a spade and a... uh.. thingy too!

Willow, you are a credit to your profession <3

It's just these new wave trolls just don't respect The Way.

Hey now! leave Merwan alone! He's going through his rebelious period. I'm buying him a black leather jacket and he's gonna slick back his hair and cruise around on a Harley.

He will also now be know as Merwan "MadDog" Marker.

Word!

Yeah, I guess thats a plus for some of you; they've managed to turn the forums into such an unbearable, ridiculous caricature of anything resembling reasoned discussion that even us trolls don't want to participate!

But then, we were never able to hijack a thread with the effectiveness these two can.

These people in question have done the same thing, time and again, whether they be talking about the "feted inner core" or the "techie wiki culture" or, my personal favorite, the "scripterati." While I don't feel that there's necessarily anything wrong with disliking a person, I have seen countless long-winded posts filled with insulting and vitriolic ramblings. So do I think it's against forum policy to write about how I don't like them? Maybe. Do I think it's wrong to want such negative, destructive, and pernicious people and attitudes OUT of SL? No, I don't think that's wrong at all.

Your comment blaze is why you might consider moving beyond the name calling, broad swiped brush stage.

Then again, maybe that's what rocks your boat.

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Neither do I, Emma.

Let's start with banning this thread.

If anyone else posts personal attacks against other people, I say ban them for 7 days immediately.

You noticed I said "mob".

Merwan, you're a great guy. You're very intelligent and quite effective when you want to be.

I always felt that you were burned, but then I also realised I participated in a lynch mob then and really shouldn't have. I guess my heart got the better of me because I reallly (probably too much) empathized with your situation.

I don't think you want to be a part of the mob. I think you're just caught up in a wave of mass hysteria here. I don't think you really want to be a part of a lynch mob, because as an individual you are a thoughtful and reasonable fellow that addresses each issue in the individual way that it deserves.

DEROGATORY.... DEROGATORY

*sirens, bells, lazers, elastic bands, cheese*

NER NER NER NER NER

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ok.. i'm done....

Who's hysterical? Are you hysterical? I like how as soon as you see a group of people that disagree with you it's a "lynch mob" and a "wave of mass hysteria" as though ANYONE thinking rationally and calmly couldn't POSSIBLY dislike you. No, no, that can't be it.

I agree Aimee. Thread after thread. Boring. I enjoy our rotation of drahmatic players, but they need to know how to share the stage.

Good point, Emma.

I've got a kind of "anti-popularity fallacy" going. Anything that is popular *must* be wrong.

Anyways, I've never seen merwan once attempt to understand what it is that I am saying. Never seem him try to engage at all, so I can only assume his attitude towards this isn't based on thoughtful reasoning but rather a general feeling of getting caught up in the mob and it's mindset and tuning into that wavelength.

If Merwan really ever bothered to really sit down and figure it all out, he'd find that my ideas are wholey sound and that I'm even more willing to compromise with everyone as long as they bring something to the party.

BLAZE DO YOU HAVE ME ON IGNORE?




I am not too cute to annoy you know!!! *shakes fist*

It constantly amazes me that some folks jump all over anyone who gets fed up with the constant atmosphere of hostility promoted by Prokofy and his gang, yet don't say jack shit to the instigators themselves.

Sure, being reactionary isn't the most desirable path to take, but it's certainly not comparable to the endless preemptive attacks on random SLers and their threads perpetrated by these jokers. The one with the faux-messiah complex will even admit to preemptively finding fault and bitching about it until the cows come home, in other words, making shit up and jumping to conclusions without ANY shred of real, tangible evidence. Talk about the boy who cried wolf, my god.

Instead of chastising Merwan, you should be considering why he, of all people, has ended up at this point. If you are of clear mind you may come to the conclusion that people are sick and tired of being pushed around by this gang of forum thugs who hide their own socialist agenda behind a supposed love for capitalism. You know "The People", et al.

They want to set up Company Towns (an exploititative American micro version of communism, almost all of which failed miserably), where you come "work" & "live" on their land. Never owning anything, but made to feel, through smoke and mirrors, that you actually do, all the while the fat cats at the top suck the well ("The People" dry. Sound familiar? This brand of capitalism is just Soviet communism by a different name.

Prokofy is afraid of competition, afraid of losing some newbies, to others who wish to assisit newbies without digging into their very shallow pocketbooks, or offering them "jobs" and "land". He would like you to believe that he is simply an altruistic watchdog, benefitting all by preventing unfairness, when in reality, it's all about number one and his petty envies.

I would ask you to examine yourself, in other words, practice what you preach.