YadNi Monde feels IGNORED by the Lindens

Ok, first...the actual question posed in the topic. It is my understanding that the top picks list is selected at whim by the Lindens however they please. That makes it arbitrary, not open to accountability, and means if they dont see a spot they like (or dont like you), your spot wont be displayed. Any system that's based on whim will always appear to be unfair to those not on the list.


Now, onto my own observations. I've been in SL over a year now; have been all over SL, and my own creations are spread all over the place. However, it is unlikely I'd consider my name to be a SL-household word. Nor have I ever heard of this Yadni's Junkyard, so the name of Yadni Monde or their junkyard isn't as famous as one would hope.

The top picks list is extremely limited in size. Even if it was selected via a fair and documented process, there is a high likelhood that few of SL best and most talented folks would ever appear on the list. So no offense intended when I say this, but to hear one particular person complaining that they're being 'snubbed by the Lindens', I interpret that as an insult to all us honest-working talented designers who appreciate the occasional thanks and expressions of gratitude we get from folks. Many times being creative in SL can be a next to thankless job - it's offensive to hear one complain about not appreciating the huge amount of thanks and gratitude they get already.


(Not to mention hubris is considered one of the seven deadly sins....maybe learning some humility will help.)

th-ank you.

the subject of this post was and still is, using my own experience as a clear example, that whatever useful you can be to the community, you may stay ignored by the lindens while your fellow players know you.
any personnal attack you may have to spit at me, will simply pass along as i simply dont care about that, if you have a bad opinion about me, just come inworld tell me why, i m not a linden, i m not evasive. next time you, player, have a thing to tell me, be HONEST and COURAGEOUS enuf to tell me Face to Face. I dont give a shiat about your rantings on me, that s not the subject anyway.

Just a quick observation...this post was started in the forums, it's responded to in the forums....telling people to respond in-person seems just a tad inconsistent, doesn't it?

Sorry Yadni, I've never even heard of you before.

But your theory is intriguing. Do you believe that LL maliciously intends to ignore all the user projects out there that they don't have personal vested interest in?

It's apparent you believe that they should investigate every user project and promote each one in some sort of "equal" system. To which I unfortunately cannot agree. See, LL chooses projects at it's discretion to fit its marketing agenda. It chose spellbound as one of those projects and helped develop it so that they could use it to promote SL.

As for Hamlet or anyone else taking a while to get back to you about interviews... maybe they're just taking a while. Maybe they don't want to do one anymore.

This has been the most self-involved egotistical post I've read in the forums yet. I think everyone participating in SL is invaluable to its development; but that's just a given. From this post it sounds like you sir, think you're not just one of SL's invaluable citizens but some great luminary that deserves recognition.

Again... I've never heard of you till now and it's definitely not the best impression you could've left.

Haha Nevermind Icon,
and yes i am self aware of what i can bring as a unique person behind my avatar, i know my skills and they are valuable, ask the persons who know me.

lol, you start an immensely personal post on a public forum, then resent the responses? ummm, don't see the disrepancy here? And I haven't seen any "you stink" posts here... more head scratching really where people aren't cheering you on.

and there are no anonymous posters here, so I don't see why it is any more honest and courageous to say something (whether positive or negative) here or in world. You claim that this is really about Linden interaction (or lack thereof)... well, ok, your claim to this end does come across... in between the lines of the personal anecdotes. Not trying to be your enemy dude...

*Timed Bump*

And i also like to think if my post can change things in the good way, my self involved egotistical person will be pleased because from then, anybody being useful to the community would be recognised at last.

Extremely well said. I have been struck by why Yadni needs any Linden recognition at all? He seems to be self-congratulatory enough for us all. When you do great work, people appreciate that and support you. When you do what you think is great, and say "WAAH LOOK AT THIS, I AM SO GREAT YOU SHOULD LOVE ME AND I SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED", that is just pathetic. This is the most narcissistic, arrogant thread I think I have read in these forums.

What i need is the Lindens to wake up at the good people working on the grid to do the best they can for the pleasure of all.
My story is just here to show how things can be ridiculous when the community know you, for the most, and lindens still dont.
So when all this is finished, i may pass for a egotistic person, but at least i will have tried to do something about what i feel is unfair.

To make the claim that this post was started as an attempt to change things for the benefit of all creative folks in SL rings extremely hollow at best. The entire post was essentially a case of 'look at me, look at how great I am, look at how famous I am, look how wonderful my creations are, why aren't the Lindens showering me with attention?'

Forgive me if I (speaking only for myself as one of untold hundreds of creative folk in SL) that dont exactly feel like this posting was meant to be a 'benefit to all'. As was used in a previous post, all I get is the overwhelming stench of narcissism and self-congratulatory moaning.

Yadni,

That is understood - but in the process you are insulting a lot of other people who have worked very hard and aren't demanding anything. I am sure your work is wonderful, I had never seen it or heard of you before this thread. However, there are thousands and thousands of amazingly talented players in SL.

The process is not unfair - there is no possible way that Lindens can focus on every project that every player does. Do they make mistakes, give the impression of playing favorites? Certainly, but they at least say mea culpa and look for ways to improve things. Ultimately, the only system that will work for something like Top Picks is a player driven one. I am curious, if you had received Linden support, would you be out there so loudly defending others who had not? I doubt it. That is why your claims of "I am doing this for the good of the people!" seems just a hollow justification.

Wow Yadni, I'm sorry you started this thread the way you did. I really respect your work but the 'Don't you know who I am!!' attitude is really way out of line. You're not doing your reputation any good here, you really aren't. Yes you produce good work and much of what you've been involved with may have been overlooked by the Lindens, but stop this 'I'm famous, I demand recognition' line as you're just coming over really arrogant.

We've all created things we wished had been picked up on, but haven't been. But seriously, stop feeling sorry for yourself. You were a large part of a very major Linden supported and promoted effort with Neverland, what else do you want exactly, as that's more than the vast majority of equally, if not more so, compelling content creators will get.

I created my AV, I am stimulating and sexy. When are Lindens going to recognize me? LOL!

LOL U crack me up Blake!

A Linden shot me once. I was flattered

and my intention is not, has never been, and will never be to insult any of you here, as long as you dont insult me too much

and i am sorry this post made to raise a point that is an interresting one, gets twisted by sick persons who have to spit at people s face to feel good when they are not attacked.

dont you have anything more creative to do than to be agressive with me ?

i dont do you no harm here

and i am sorry to be the first to open my mouth here if you are a creative person and you didnt open yours, sorry for you you didnt try before me

and that all i m sorry about

<Still waiting for Yadni's list of those that should be recognized.

I think the point that people are trying to make is that we shouldn't be looking to the Lindens for pats on the back and recognition. There's simply no way they can do that fairly for everyone that might deserve the attention, so it's not fair to hold them to an unrealistic expectation. People need to seek their own rewards from the community and from the simple pleasure of creating. If you look to LL to make you feel valued and appreciated you will always be disappointed, and not because LL isn't appreciative. They simply can't do it to everyone's satisfaction.

I agree Chip

Another point is, that is not what the Lindens are here for.

Ignore the junk that gets posted Yadni Your post was only superficially directing people to take more attention of you, but I think/hope most people understand the actual point you were making.

Again, I don't do much building or designing, but I'd heard about and been to Yadni's junk yard within days of joining SL and have seen you with cool avs in the Welcome Area - I can't see that many people don't know your name. But I understand your point about why that doesn't get recognised by LL, and I think that's because

1) There aren't many Lindens - there's something like 30 people employed by LL, right? How many of those can be involved with noticing top picks? 2? 1? < 1?

2) LL does not have any direct financial interest in content in SL!! I think this is a huge problem and the source of problems like yours and the Dwell mess!! There needs to be some better economical structure around rewarding people like you, community projects, good building, etc. I don't think you personally are asking for financial reward, but you are asking for some kind of fair scale or top-list or measurement that says 'LL recognises Yadni did a great job', and I don't know why that can't be implemented. I personally think that if it had some base in a **realistic** financial reward system it would be more likely to be implemented, but that shouldn't have to be the case - LL should be devoting more time to rewarding people financially or otherwise for their SL effort, otherwise you're much more likely to leave, right?

Linden avs have a huge presence - like someone said, getting shot by one is an honour! Why can't there be Lindens dedicated to this kind of recognition work to make people like you feel much more rewarded?