Buying land is harassment.

C

One question: If Disco tiered up to purchase this land, was the tier reverted to its pre-purchase level after the sale was reversed?

Yes. I forgot to mention that in my original post, after the fact, my tier was reset to the pre-purchased level.

I can't post a screenshot or conversation, or mention what was discussed with Lindens without risking violating the disclosure section of the Community Standards, but I will say this:

1. I specifically asked the original owner how long the land had been for sale, she said about a minute before purchased. Disco went right to the land and swept it up without blinking, quite literally beneath the original owner's feet.

2. Disco's friends showed up and were harassing the original owner, who still owned the neighboring land. Combined with reselling the land at an extremely jacked up price, this is clear land extortion, to which there are many precedents of enforcing this as abuse.

3. When I arrived and tried to talk to Disco as a neutral 3rd party, I got no response other than being knocked around with scripted objects. At first I let Disco know it was a mistake. Then I clearly stated that what they were doing was against TOS. Then I reported abuse and let the land owner know to do the same.

4. I purchased the land to end the drama, and gave it to the original owner. The original owner set the land to restrict access, and all left after they were asked to. I was
reimbursed by LL for the money I spent on the land.

Tell me, Disco... was it worth the 3k, or $12US?

You are confused Hiro, that was a different time I bought land for 0 money because someone stupidly set the price at 0. And your abuse report never resulted in anything, I netted 3k or whatever lindens you paid for that land.

Oh, okay. And I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in that it was a 1-time thing, but apparently you do this all the time.

So thank you for adding more evidence to show you're no where near being a victim in this case.

I may add that regardless of the Lindens' decision on the case I mentioned, it likely factored in to whatever decision was made on the one you posted about.

And I love your attitude to the person by calling them stupid. Apparently making minor mistakes in life makes them stupid. Considering this mistake was inadvertant and minor, and yours was large and intentional, does that make you a whole lot more stupid?

If this is the attitude you have, you should just cancel your account, you bully.

LOL! Brilliantly said, Hiro.

What was my large mistake? How does someone make an intentional mistake?

Now again, I will say that I did not start this thread trying to show myself as a victim in this specific case, I started the thread to bring up the fact that I was told that it was harassment to buy land that someone priced ridiculously low. Whether it was right for the Linden to give back the land, that is a whole different ball of wax, however, buying land that is marked for sale, and not giving it back is not harassment.

Buying land when you're so obviously taking advantage of someone else's mistake may not be harassment, but it sure as hell makes you a giant ass****

The abuse was not the buying alone, it was the buying and retaining land despite being told that it was an errored price, then demanding a high price and harassing residents as a form of extortion. Your rationalization is no more scrupulous than the mafia doing extortion. Seriously.

If your bank adds a 0 to the end of your balance by mistake, and you quickly close out the accout and take the money, and the bank calls you and asks for the money back, do you think you won't get prosecuted if you refuse? You've got to be kidding.

I agree with Kate completely. While Disco's behavior in this regard is hardly something to defend, he or she did nothing except act like a vulture, which while sleazy, is not a crime. I am more disturbed by the forced return of the land. They are ordinarily so hands off in intervening in any financial disputes, I cannot see why they would step in here. Anyone who has had their account drained through a scripting flaw knows that Linden Lab won't help with that mistake, so why should they help here?

That said, Disco, this entire thing however could have been avoided if you had an ounce of class and returned the land because it is the right thing to do, instead of whining about how wronged you were. You remind me of the burglar who was injured while breaking into someone's house, and sued the homeowner.

once when I was still buying Jenner land someone had mismarked a 2048 lot lot, I bought it right away for the 10L$, same as you did Disco. But the difference was I immediatly IM'd the seller told them of there mistake and gave it back. Its being part of a community not a vulture. I am glad the Lindens did what they did

Knowing absolutely nothing about the situation or players other than what is posted here, I have a strong suspicion that the orignal poster was contentious in dealing with the liaison and is confusing statements about suspension as being about land and not about conduct. That is, if indeed suspension was even mentioned.

And what Toy said.

On a side note, there is a way to 'think' you are typing 33000 for a price and it end up being 10. If the land previously was sold for $10 (lets say 10 to a set person problably), that price would remain in the box. And if the seller went and checked the "Sale for L$:" box and hit TAB thinking (or thought by checking it) the cursor would appear in the "price" field and started typing "33000" nothing would have changed. And it would have remained $10.

Seconded. Motion carried.

I remember that, someone exploited a roulette wheel and took all of the owner's money and LL wouldn't do anything about it.

In real life, money fraud (viz. exploiting machinery that handles money) gets you a visit from the FBI. I wish there was the same penalty in SL.

/me sighs

With a name like Disco Duck, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The name brings on some disturbing mental imagry.

If you're looking for sympathy in these forums, you're barking up the wrong tree Disco. The seller made a mistake, the Lindens corrected it, and as a result, you got yourself a big ol' boner for a few minutes beause you thought you had just scooped a bargain, only to have your little wee-wee deflated by the swift delivery of a just and reasonable solution to the seller's error.

Don't be a turd...

- Ace

I have a different take from a lot of the posts, I guess. I personally would never purchase a deal like this because it is likely a mistake and causes the problems that you've enumerated.

But, I do believe that if the Lindens are going to "make things right", then they need to repair all parties. That means that the sale price needs to be returned to the buyer and that any tiering up needs to be voided.

for me it would depend on the size of land, something small, ok take it back, but if I tier up 50$for this land, tough shit on your part. If I hold the land for 10 mins, I'll stillbe charged at that tier. Now if Lindens wish to refund me,ok I'll give it back. I work hard irl for my money, and not gonna throw itaway for someones "mistake" 10$ when she meant 33k is NOT a typo....where's the 3?!?!?!

hmmmmm so you have screwed over more then 1 person on land huh cuz i was transfering land to my buddy and had land set at 1L and this duck dude came up and swiped it then tped all his buddies there and they started bouncing me and my buddy with scripts and bumping us then he wouldnt answer either mine or ricx curies IM when we were telling him what happened and then after we reported him to lindens and everything and left he put the land up to 1200L so we had to go and pay 1200L for the land that i owned just to get it back so he seems to have a habit of ripping people off and he was rude as hell just along with his buddies

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I'm with Shack on this one. Repair the damages to all parties.

I actually don't like it when the Lindens intervene to shield people from their stupidity. The reason is because it not only perpetuates their stupidity, they don't do it evenhandedly enough to be fair.

The release button doesn't appear to be as bad as it used to be, because now if you press it, it still asks you a question. I agree it shouldn't be on the menu in the form it is, because a new person might think it means "release to the group" (as I once did) etc.

People often are forced to set their land to 0 and risk a mistake merely to transfer to or between groups or to a partner, and land should have a "transfer" option that avoids that kind of mistake.

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A friend of mine accidentally hit the 'release land' button and of course someone swooped in and bought it. After realizing that it was done in error the purchasing avie returned the land back to the owner (not allowed to name names here but kodos for your kindness .... you know who you are).

Hey, it takes all kinds to make a virtual world. I'm just ever so grateful that an honest person was involved in the land release error my friend made and not Disco Duck.

Yes, and refusing to return it after being informed about the mistake is low. Really low.