Blake Rockwell banned for retaliating agains't a Griefer! Vote for New Policy!

Blake Rockwell has been banned for retaliating agains't a Griefer that came into La Vie En Rose Club in Rue d'Alliez. It's time for lindens to step up agains't Griefers and put in ban Gun Scripts from Community Sims. Gun should only be allowed in Combat Sims. It's time to Step or Shut up agains't griefer retaliation!!

I need to find the link to where you petition for new policy regarding this issue. This is an inconvenience to good SL Citizens getting blown Sims away for no reason!

I think its funny that this is set up as a poll...

Umm what did Blaze do? Two wrongs don't make a right.

He tossed some idiot from La Vie en Rose! Nothing wrong with what he did....he was only helping

Oh so the ones that voted "NO" like people being PVP'd in Sims for no reason..interesting, maybe all the griefers are coming out here.

What did you expect? It's a biased poll "Ban gun scripts OR you're supporting greifers"

Not much of a choice there....


Thats even setting aside that 'how do you know what scripts are gun scripts' - there is no llMakeGun(), and a lot of the same routines used to make a gun are used in many other useful and fun things.

If I was to support anything it would be the root of the problem - the folks who bombed your club - but even then, just like the poll here, I'm only seeing one side of the story.

Siggy.

There are three sides to every story. Right, wrong and reality.

Reality is, two wrongs don't make a right. Fight guns with guns, both get banned.

Blake meant well, however noble, but he had to be banned too. It's the rules.

You can't use Gun Scripts in the Welcome Area, shouldn't be any different for Community Sims. These certain command line scripts regarding shooting a bullet or rocket should not effect other scripts. This is a problem that needs to be dealt with.

I am the Manager of La Vie en Rose. Last night (4-27) during an event Blake Rockewell reacted to an attack on La Vie en Rose and myself. He used a script to stop a 'Griefer' who was setting off "Bombs" in La Vie en Rose night club. Prior to the attach there were 24 guests in the club. The attack knocked about half totally out of the sim. It knocked me out of SL and damaged my software to the point it was necessary to reinstall SL before I could return to the game.

Granted 2 wrongs don't make a right but had it not been for Blake's reaction others may have suffered similar software damage. The suspension of Blake is totally uncalled for and I both as manager and as a member request the suspension be rescinded immediately and Blakes privileges be reinstated forthwith!

I fully agree with the a ban on any attack scripts in community areas. Such scripts are disabled in Linden areas. It can be done. To ignore this will allow immature and vengeful members to abuse the majority. Failure to act on this matter is tantamount to offically condoning such aberrant behavior!

In addition the current policy of suspending a griefers avatar is a TOOTHLESS TIGER! Face it, no one would use thier primary Avatar to attack another. It is time Linden Labs got tough with these disruptive Children! The avatar that attacked the guests at La Vie en Rose was obviously an ''alt"! While the membership dated to nearly a year ago the profile was totally blank and had only 3 ratings! Credit card information can be easily traced by Linden Labs. When someone attacks an individual or an entity in game ALL AVATARS PAID FOR BY THAT CREDIT CARD SHOULD BE SUSPENDED! Perhaps if the morons who choose to act to disrupt our community are made to suffer REAL CONSEQUENCES instances such as this will be eliminated! And citizens like Blake, will not have to suffer a suspension for defending his friends!

Considering the phrasing, voting no was a lil bit painful. But I can ignore the sillified bit. The fact is, you^H^H^HBlake knew the rules - no shooting. We're all aware that LL tries very hard to be perfectly neutral in thier appraisals of the rules and the enforcement thereof - shooting back was setting himself up for the suspension.
There are other, better methods available, after all.

Last I checked the welcome area has scripts and build turned off...

Next - shooting a bullet = rezzing and object - same thing a lot of other scripts do .. once again I ask 'how do you tell between the two to know what is a weapon and what isn't?'

The routine that rezzes water into a tub is the same that rezzes a bullet.
The routines used in that handy dandy X-Flight script - or pushes a train - or lets you jump a sim in a single bound - are the same that can fire a rocket.

Your problem isn't a particular script that someone has written - your problem is a group of A-Holes that set upon someones club..

Because even if found some miraculous way to instantly and infallably detect a gun, said A-Holes will only switch tactics to continue on their merry antics.

For example - particle spewers - delinking phys objects - chat spammers - the list goes on and on... No matter what *tool* you ban, A-Holes will remain A-Holes.


...and your polls are biased.

Siggy.

The way this poll is written is stupid. I shouldn't even have to point out why.

::wants llMakeGun()::

Gotta admit llMakeGun() would be a sweet routine... I might make a prop for it, along with llHumpLeg() and a Cameltoe slider on appearance

If they did that this poll wouldn't exist

You don't ask a Plumber to Represent someone in Court you ask a Lawyer! Iam not a Scripter so ask a Linden Lab Developer!

we had something similar happen awhile back... difference being we just anchored, didnt fight back and AR'd it was handled quickly.
I dont know how long its been said if you fight back your just as guilty. Banning guns means removing many things in LSL that would remove much more than guns. This poll is so lopsided it doesnt deserve a vote either way

It is Biased towards Griefers not mean't to be towards scripters and you know it.

Hard to argue with that incoherent little gem...

Does that apply to Kangaroo Court as well? If so I have some leaky pipes over in Chaos you might wanna have a look at

Nuff said....

That sounds like the beginning of a blue movie.

If you've been to Chaos you'd know it very well could be

Yes you're right! I hate Griefers!

Candy,

I can assume Blake is SUSPENDED, not banned,yes? He will be back soon enough. It is unfortunate that he got caught up in this, but griefing in retaliation is not a solution, nor is a kneejerk reaction to move functionality from scripts. As Siggy points out, it is impossible to tell a gun from other types of scripts, and you would cripple a lot of legitimate use.

Getting rid of something because of its potential for abuse is never a solution - instead we need additional controls to help us manage situations where abuse can occur. For example, we need the ability to disable pushing of avatars on a plot by plot basis - and restrict push capabilities in that instance to only scripts owned by the land owner (so elevators could still work, but guns couldn't hit you). There are always options - the kneejerk one is never ever the right one.

The root of the problem is the griefer, not the script used by the griefer. Disabling the functions used by gun scripts would not only interfere with people who are using guns consentually in safe zones, or in unsafe zones, but it would also harm non-gun objects that rez objects and/or push them, such as melee combat weapons that I have used and enjoyed with friends of mine. The primary call used by guns is llRezObject(), and if you pull that, you ruin an absolute ton of stuff that doesn't need ruining, like certain vendors. If you remove the ability to apply an impulse (linear or rotational) to a rezzed object from that function, a gun builder can use llPushObject() on the bullet instead. If you kill that function, my melee weapons stop working. Wouldn't be fair to me, or to others who go willingly into combat.

Furthermore, your poll is so incredibly biased that no amount of "Yes" answers can possibly be taken seriously.