I Finally realized I can Celebrate Diversity!

Um not to split hairs, but it's vegetarian I love when someone corrects someone and then makes a typo lol.

Yeah Darwin, I am losing sooo much fucking sleep over the fact no one likes me, *yawn*
You fucking bore me.

But I do agree with you about guns are only for shooting cans.
ameriCANS, afriCANS, mexiCANS or any one else who CAN wield a weapon against me and threaten the life, saftey, or well being of me, my family, my neighbors, and yes even stupid little you.


You know, you call me out on a religeous debate at your place and quite frankly I enjoyed it IMMENSLY!
You were civil, I was civil and we had, what I thought was a free exchange of ideas. We didnt change each others minds, we didnt convert anyone to the other side, but it was one of the FEW interactions with someone in SL that I came away feeling good about.
But on the forums, are you are just being a dickhead for the sake of being a dickhead?
Knock it the fuck off already why dont ya?
Or are you so desperate to rmain #1 poster that this is the bullshit you have to resort to?

On another note...
You did say that you HATE hunting?
Careful there dickhead!
You explicitly spouted off hate speech which violates the TOS.
Remember! You MUST practice tolorance.
You are allowed to hate, you are NOT allowed to SAY SO around here.
You must embrace my slaughter of any number of species with as high a caliber weapon I can legally choose.

Quite frankly, I wonder if anyone actually is innocent of not breaking TOS:

[FROM TOS Section 5.1]
(iv) upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

Heck, even a freaking script to a Disney flick could fall into that.

(of course there is that clause "as determined by Linden".. which is, well, basically up to their interpretation at the time... )

But back on the topic at hand, I'll admit, I have a large distaste for guns. Would I own one, no. Do I think people should have the right, well, sure, but within reason. Do I think their armor piercing bullets are excessive and un-needed, sure. But I also think these sports cars that can go from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds are pointless also. And guess what, more people die a year due to the car in this country than by a gun.. perhaps we should outlaw cars?

Again, I dislike guns. I won't own one. But the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" definately is true. Quite frankly, if guns did not exist, these crazy fucks that go around killing people would just use something else. Bows, swords, knives, big ass rocks... We humans tend to be rather creative at killing each other. The instrument is not really the factor.

You stole that too. It was on Friday Night Standup on Comedy Central.



When I invited you over, you didn't talk about the things you talk about here. I used to think of YOU as a civil person whos ideas simply differed from my own. Now I think of you as a hater.

And calling us "Liberal fucktards" is NOT ahte speach? That's TOLERANCE? I hate an ACTIVITY, not a GROUP OF PEOPLE. You, sir, are a masterful hypocrit.

I think Christopher has already proved to us that he is adept at thinking, functioning, and acting outside reason.

I would refer Christopher to my signature, as it seems to describe how we are polar oppisites.

Agreed on the "As Determined By Lindens"... but that is the catch all in just about every forums TOS.

But I spewed my Dew on the screen over "BIG ASS ROCKS"!
THAT was fucking funny. True sadly, but funny nonetheless.

I agree with Christopher and Aliondra here... the crime is in killing living things, not how you do so. The problem I have with guns is that they're DESIGNED for killing living things, but that's the same problem I have with swords and other weaponry.

Are fists ok in the Combat Arena Rules According to Darwin?
Orrrrrrrr do I smell a pacifist?

So were humans, or perhaps the other way. The human's diet which includes (typically) animal flesh is one of the large contributing factors to how we evolved into humans opposed to lesser intelligent primates. The increased fat intake is to blame, and let's face it, your not going to blimp out on carrots and lettace. We are what we are largely because we did kill.

As far as the "crime in killing living things", I don't see that as a crime. It is nature. Yes, it may be a crime to needlessly kill a living thing, and it pisses me off to see people hunting and _not_ eating the kill, but to kill to eat is a natural thing and definately not human created. Even if your just eating the above mentioned carrots and letace, you are still killing a living thing. I am sure (assuming they could comprehend) the carrot does not like being torn from the ground and consumed. Thus vegitarians are being rather hypocritical. Don't kill one type of life but kill another to your heart content. It is placing value of one form of life over another. (unless your one of those fallen fruit types... but that definately is not natural since typically they are not the most healthy).

Let me clarify that, as I see it was unclear - "crime of killing living things for the purpose of sport and not food/tools"

Let's face it: people who hunt do so to kill things. They may eat it, but that's not the joy of it. The joy is in the killing, and that's what supermarkets are for. If he was out in the woods trying to survive, he is blessed with his gun. Anyway, I'm a vegetarian because (as proved to me by our acheivement so far in science, although perhaps some day we shall learn otherwise) it's simply better for your mental growth. Also, a lot cheaper than getting the free range, organic meat that I would otherwise get would I eat meat.

And for Chris: no, you smell a Buddhist.

Sorry, a bit out of context, and not trying to be offensive (and I know what you ment) but the literal grammer there states supermarkets are for killing... Yes, I have to admit I often get homicidal thoughts when in a crowded store.

I do indeed agree that most hunters don't hunt for the sole purpose of eating. And I definately respect your choice to not eat meat because of health/cost issues opposed to the typical "evil to kill" reasons. I have a respect for life in general, animal, plant, or heck, even bacteria. However, I also have respect for the natural need to kill, just not needless killing. Besides, perhaps that cow deserves an opportunity for a better rebirth.

Hahah, oopsies, that's what a lack of coffee does to you Thanks for knowing what I meant.

Heheh, yes. I also don't agree with the "animals are my friend, don't kill them mentality" because, quite frankly, animals kill other animals in nature. That is, until humans come along and genetically engineer them to the point where they're too fat to kill.

Bah, let the slaughter continue and FEED ME!

MMMMM Veal....

JV

first, i'm not saying guns are bad.. just that they have the potential to be 'bad'. not in and of themselves.. a gun can't do anything bad, or good, for that matter.. a gun can only set there.. it can't shoot itself at anything, it feels no ill-will towards anything, it has no means of doing anything on its' own.

BUT, put that gun in someones hands.. and now it can be used to shoot things. there's nothing wrong with shooting unliving things..
..well, not things that are set up for shooting that is..
..i wouldn't condone shooting such a non-living thing as, say.. a car, house, milkshake machine, etc..

to cut myself short.. if there were no guns.. anywhere, at all, if they didn't exist.. there would be a lot less blood-shed in the world. i wish that were the case, but since it isn't.. nor would it ever be.. we have to deal with their existance.

you want to shoot a gun? groovy.. shoot some clay pigeons or something.

you want to hunt? ..here's my big punch-line.. fine, hunt.. BUT.. do it without a gun! limit yourself to a hunting knife.. at most. ..how may deer do you see running around with a rifle? or even a bow and arrow? ..ok, you say, "but i want to hunt a big abd bear and he has big bad claws".. right.. no gun.. no long-range weaponry.. just 'big bad' claws.. and teeth. thats where your knife comes in.
..sorry, i just think hunting should be done on fair ground. and should be done ONLY if you need the meat for food, the hide for clothing/shelter, the bones for tools/etc..

and just to let you know, i understand the attractiveness of guns. the beauty of a well-made piece of equipment.. the intricacy of how it works.. the sentimental value of thoroughly cleaning your gun.. a hobby just as exhilirating as any other.

so, enjoy your guns.. just don't shoot people, or make sport of animals.

thank you for listening. if you disagree, feel free to discuss it here.. just don't shoot me.

I think we should just hunt and eat each other.

Cybin, people have been extremely proficient at slaughtering each other for as long as there have been people. Deleting one kind of weapon from the equation would simply cause an increase in the use of other kinds. For example, when China banned melee weapons, the martial arts became more popular - in fact, development of the arts increased during this period. At another place and time, Brazillian slaves were banned from fighting, so they developed a martial art which looked more like dancing than fighting. It's called Capoeira.

The problem of people killing and maiming each other does not derive from the availability of weapons. It derives from fundamental parameters of the human psyche. The weapons - bare hands, Uzis, #2 pencils, whatever - are merely along for the ride, and are, for the most part, interchangeable. You may very well pry Charlton Heston's gun from his cold dead hands, but others have hands of their own - neither cold nor dead - which can still be used to kill, without help from any weapons.

I'd also like to add that I think some of you guys are overreacting to Christopher's post. I don't see where Christiano gets off saying all that stuff.

edit: Now I do.

Huns,

yes. quite right. ..you actually are illustrating my point, while at the same time shedding new light on where it leaves us.

true, people will kill regardless of guns.. i'm just saying there would be less blood-shed. for instance, take any war.. now, take out the guns.. sure, people would still have fought and i'm sure they probably would have still killed each other.. but there would be less killing.
..not to mention, it makes it a lot easier to kill someone when you're not eye-to-eye.. you can just 'pick 'em off' from whatever distance your current firearm allows.

...hmm, what would drive-by shootings be like if there were no shooting possible? drive-by.. rock throwing? LOL..


but really, all i'm saying is guns are a perfectly healthy hobby for many.. unfortunately it's ruined by those who use them for committing murderous acts.

Personally, I prefer to kill folks with a good tongue lashing. I start by licking their elbows.

Good point. There is a reason that the gun is called the 'great equalizer'. Before guns warfare was a skill, now any amateur can slaughter at will.

If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did God make them out of tasty meat?

You make an excellent point. Seems that our diversity in opinion causes conflict. The very thing we to fight for is the thing that causes us to fight. I think tolerance is the key but seems impossible for everyone to have. If you want to outlaw everything, that anyone thinks pointless, you will wind up wiping out humanity. We are too willful to allow ourselves to die from anything so we will remain in each others hair until something bigger than us comes along.

For the topic that stared out as a humorous thread (by media category not my opinion) I am for the right to bear arms and I do target practice now and then. If I had it my way, the only weapons/hunting tools allowed would be swords, bows and arrows. That is fantasy talk.

War creates the necessity for weapons to evolve and it’s a fact that we all have to live with. I may as well learn how to protect myself with what someone is going to try to kill me with. Total peace is not likely due to our nature and the fact that there are too many people. We can only hope for a piece of peace.

ROFLMAO!
DAMNIT! Now there is Mt Dew on the friggin Monitor again!

Dont forget he wants them to be accompanied by a salad and a loaded baked potato!

Damn now I'm hungry... and it was the Mountain Dew part that did it. lol