Poor Ann Coulter

I often wonder if she is doing Sean or wears sensible shoes

I saw her claddagh ring and it was showing her as untaken. Apparently even Sean won't touch that wilted flower.

There was a lot of rumor that she and Bill Maher were riding the proverbial hobby horse.

They are really good friends and both claim that's all it is. I can see how they get along as they both hate women.

Pffft - don't you know that only liberals wear sensible shoes? Think Birkenstocks....

With socks?

LOL - yeah - it really does look SO bad. But it is the stereotypical image of a feminist/liberal.

I like wearing high heeled mules (Barbie shoes) to their meetings just to shake things up a bit.

Socks is my cat so NOOOOO!

opinion --linky?

Billy:
Racist commentary:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter122602.asp
-This article is discussing the origins of Kwanzaa. How is that racist?

Americans don't want to make Islamic fanatics love us. We want to make them die. There's nothing like horrendous physical pain to quell angry fanatics. So sorry they're angry - wait until they see American anger. Japanese kamikaze pilots hated us once too. A couple of well-aimed nuclear weapons, and now they are gentle little lambs. That got their attention.
-Note the use of the term "Islamic fanatics". This isn't racist. She's talking about the people who beheaded American, burned Americans and hung their corpses off the bridge, flew planes into the pentagon and the WTC. Remember those guys?

"Congress could pass a law tomorrow requiring that all aliens from Arabic countries leave....We should require passports to fly domestically. Passports can be forged, but they can also be checked with the home country in case of any suspicious-looking swarthy males."
-I disagree with her here. Internal passports are too Soviet style. People who sacrifice freedom for security lose both.

Muhammad makes L. Ron Hubbard look like Jesus Christ. Most people think nothing of assuming every Scientologist is a crackpot. Why should Islam be subject to presumption of respect because it's a religion?
-Again she's talking about a religion not a race.

UK Guardian on May 17, 2003, Coulter said:
This is my idea…I think airlines ought to start advertising: "We have the most civil rights lawsuits brought against us by Arabs."
-Sarcasm. Look it up.

When asked for a solution for Muslims who wish to use air travel she replied:
"They could use flying carpets.
-Waaaaay over the line.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
-Except for the conversion to Christianity, she's right. Keep in mind however that she is talking about states which sponsor terrorism not *all* Muslim countries.

"In a sane world, Lehman's statement would have made headlines across the country… that it is official government policy to prohibit searching more than two Arabs per flight."
-She's right. Limiting searches to two Arabs per flight just to keep from ruffling feathers when the vast majority of our enemy is, in fact, Arab, is just insanity. On the other hand, we shouldn't limit our searches to JUST Arabs. Remember after the Oklahoma bombing when everyone was looking for two Arabs?

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/9
-I agree with her here. And it would save taxpayers money by making less use of prisons.

Seperatist comments
Straight from "Slander" and off of the Right Wing News wb sight:

"Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now." -- Ann Coulter, P. 6

Liberals are actually worse than terrorists but only because we already have toilets.
-No Liberals are worse than terrorists because at least the terrorists are honest about their hatred of America unlike the traitorist apologists on the Left who, while *claiming* to love America, spend all their time advocating any and all policies that would cripple the US and make it beholden to the UN, from the World Court to the Kyoto treaty.

"With their infernal racial set-asides, racial quotas, and race norming, liberals share many of the Klan's premises. The Klan sees the world in terms of race and ethnicity. So do liberals! Indeed, liberals and white supremacists are the only people left in America who are neurotically obsessed with race. Conservatives champion a color-blind society." -- Ann Coulter, P. 26

Equating liberals with the KKK and white supremacists, one of Coulter's favorite passtimes.
-...and Liberals equate Bush with Hitler and Republicans with Nazis.

"Most of the time, liberals do not imagine the world is real. Their contribution to political debate is worthless, since even they do not believe things they say. The more shocking and iconoclastic they are, the more fashion points they accrue. Liberal Manhattanites believe in redistribution of their own wealth and ceaseless police brutality like they believe in Martians." -- Ann Coulter, P. 203

No that isn't seperatist
-It's not.

From Hannity and Colmes:

Colmes: Are you saying that Democrats are stupid?

Coulter: No. I'm saying that they're traitors.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/ann_coulter.html
-I dislike generalizations like this. They are so easy to disprove. Take Zell Miller for example.

When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.
-I disagree on the strongest terms. I think the best solution is wide distribution of the truth. Those who are truly open minded will accept the truth, those who are not will be pushed to the margins of society where they can live in peace in their compounds.

Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.
-Agreed

She really loves that word doesn't she. Anyone who disagrees with her vision of Fed-co is a traitor and should be eliminated or absorbed into the only viable government ruled by Republicans correct?
-Actually, if you bothered to read any of her work, you'd see that she's not exactly thrilled with the GOP, either. She is a hard line Conservative, not a partisan Republican.

Just a couple more crazy Anne quotes:

My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.
-While this is clearly sarcasm, it is tasteless and wrong.

"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet--it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars -- that's the Biblical view." - from her column "Oil Good; Democrats bad" (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20001012.shtml) 12 October 2000
-This is also sarcasm and funny as hell.

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity (as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed')"
-Again, her generalizations, though she is being sarcastic here, are getting her in trouble.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted.
-Strongly disagree.

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99
-...and the Democrats call Republican supporters "the great unwashed". I won't even get into some of the things people in these forums have called Republicans.

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC
-Inasmuch as Ann is very pro-war and pro-military, I believe this has been misquoted or taken out of context. I'll get back to you.

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00
-Disagree

And then she defends McCarthey:

"The myth of ‘McCarthyism’ is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times,” Coulter pounds. “Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. Everything you think you know about McCarthy is a hegemonic lie.”

“Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals…

“McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party. “

CHAP 4: THE INDISPENSABLE JOE MCCARTHy

If any other religious cult knew so few basic facts about its own seminal beliefs as the liberal cult does about Joe McCarthy, Janet Reno would gas them.

Despite the leftΒs creation of a myth to defeat legitimate charges of treason, McCarthy had so badly stigmatized Communism, his victory survived him. In his brief fiery ride across the landscape, Joe McCarthy bought America another thirty years. For this, he sacrificed his life, his reputation, his name. The left cut down a brave man, but not before the American people heard the truth.

-While McCarthy may have gotten off to the right start, he quickly descended into hysterical, paranoid, megalomania, so I have to disagree with Ann here.

The Left hates Ann because she routinely takes them to task for their lies and hyprocrisy, however I dislike her "the other side can do no right, and my side can do no wrong" mentality.

On the other hand I am disgusted by the naked hypocrisy of the Liberals who continue to hold Republicans and Conservatives to a higher standard than that to which they hold their own. To wit:

Racism: Where are the Liberal lobbies to get Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, a former Klansman, out of office?
http://precinct333.blogspot.com/2005/01/senator-robert-byrd-d-kkk-blocks-rice.html
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/20/02859.shtml

Democrats as KKK: Why aren't you Liberals howling at the endless barrage of Bush/Hitler and Republican/Nazi comparisons? (I do not include Isis in here as she has already spoken against this trend here: /120/b0/34067/2.html#post362185 )

Anti-Islamic statements: Liberals will talk all day and night about the evils of the soup kitchen and homeless shelter sponsoring Evangelical Christians, but let someone breath a word against Islam and they have a fit. Just look at the way Christians are spoken about in these forums alone. But the Left wants to try to claim the moral highground on religious sensitivity?

Liberals howl on and on about separation of Church and State and how terrible it is to have an openly Christian President in the White House all the while openly supporting Islamofacist dictators. (yes, I know Saddam was a secularist).

No wonder Liberals advocate the legalization of drugs-it must take a LOT of them to maintain their worldview.

-Kiamat Dusk
...is willing to admit when he's wrong.

Now I get to ignore you just as much as I ignore Coulter.

How many times do I have to post these quotes?

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."
-Dwight D. Einsenhower

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"
-Thomas Jefferson

That's funny, Kiamat. As soon as Korg left, you arrived.

Only one way to find out --Call him a traitor.

NeoConservative Ice Cream.

You can have any flavor you want. As long as it's vanilla. Traitor!

I like Rockey Road so I guess that makes me a liberal.

Heh, I don't always agree with him, but I respect Colmes a great deal. He lets the guests talk, isn't afraid to agree with Hannity on some issues, and he will actually corner guests, as you have said, without having to scream the same rhetoric over and over.

First off...
Lianne, as an American, I agree that dissent is an integral part of our society. Indeed, it's the ability to dissent that is the true test of freedom. I don't call Liberals traitors because they have a different opinion or because they disagree with Republicans or Conservatives. I call them traitors because they do things like...burn the flag. Or advocate the removal of our government to be replaced with a socialist regime. Seeking to blame 9/11 on America. Or claiming to be "embarrassed" to be an American. I'm sorry, but if you're embarrassed-there's the door. No one is forcing you to stay.

I believe in every American's right to disagree and to seek to change things they don't like. But when you go after the very things that make America what it is (Socialism/Communism vice Democracy. flag burning, refusal to acknowlege your own citizenship, a willingness to blame yourself for a terrorist attack) then you are indeed a traitor.

Second...
I was around well before Korg left. Just look at my born on date. But thanks for the compliment!

Third...
If loving Rocky Road ice cream makes me a Liberal then I say hand me a tie dye shirt and pass the doobie, 'cuz I *love* Rocky Road!

Fourth...
I agree, Hiro. Sometimes I like Colmes more than Hannity because Colmes can admit when he's wrong and there have been times Hannity has just clearly been wrong and kept going with it.

-Kiamat Dusk
...is in a 12 step program to kick his ice cream habit.

Then all conservatives bomb abortion clinics, want to make the US a police state, and have 900 guns in their basements.

Generalizations of the many based on actions of a small minority are bad.

And when you said those things I quoted earlier, you were talking specifically about the people on these forums. Post a link of someone here wanting to burn a flag or something.

Make this a discussion of the issues, not the people involved and (mis)conceptions about them.

[edit] lol, and look what thread I posted this in. Interesting. Well, it's hard to have a misconception about Coulter when she is quite blunt about her statements.

I'm glad you say this.

I'd like you to name a single liberal in the news today that has done this. Kerry? Kennedy? Colmes? Clinton? I think you'll find that flag burning, which I find to be very direspectful as well, is limited to radicals.

Liberal does not equal radical.


Claiming this is silly. If someone advocates it, they are a socialist, not a liberal. Again, I think you'll find yourself hard-pressed to find a liberal in America who really endorses this, unless they are a radical.

Liberal does not equal radical.

Just as Republicans aren't all right-wingers. (I for one am registered for the GOP)


Responsibility is an issue America loves to avoid. Did we cause 9/11? No, of course not. Some brainwashed, oppressed eff-wads who thought killing civilians will bring them glory did. Did America contribute in some way to this overall problem? Sure.
- America put Osama bin Laden in power and the Islamic extremists as a way to fight Cold War Russia
- America put Saddam in power and gave him chemical weapons technology to use against Iran
- The Saudi Royal government that we support is an oppressive theocratic regime, and it's ironic how Bush isn't talking about freeing their people. Granted, they aren't committing the wide-spread atrocities that Saddam did on his people or neighbors.

So yeah, I think there is a little blame to be placed on America. When you are a world power and you have business all over the world, and you exercise your power all over the world, you need to act responsibly and prepare for the consequences. We promoted radical Islamic fighters for our own means, and now it's kicking us in the face for abandoning them. It doesn't take away from how wrong they are to commit terrorist acts.


I agree with this, definitely.


The very fact that you took you being mistaken for Korg as a compliment leads me to think you could very well be Korg. The fact that you have been around doesn't preclude this possibility since, gee, Korg could have had an alt sitting around. I could see Korg, after his embarassment on the forum, subsequent weeklong suspension and announcing his leaving, wanting to still post in the forum. Naturally, anyone's ego would make it tough to just turn around and say "Okay, I'll come back anyway" but more likely Korg would have wanted to start fresh, not have to play the troll, not have to be the bad guy.

So if you are Korg, I welcome you back in your new incarnation - it seems so far that you're able to discuss touchy subjects without demeaning other people.

And if you're not, I would not be proud of being associated with Korg


Hannity will also choose the easier of arguments, too. Colmes will go for a more complex stance when it's more honest.

And Hannity is totally airbrushed and vaseline lensed on the cover of his book, bwahahaahah!

A radical left-winger is still a left-winger. I have never heard of a conservative who would condone flag-burning - ever (except as a proper disposal of a flag as described by law). Yet I have heard of many liberals, left-wingers, name your own non-conservative label, advocate flag-burning as a symbol of free speech action or taunting of conservative ideology.

Your examples and arguments are silly.

Then you haven't looked hard enough. They are out there.

First --with the notable exception of Health Care --The United States Government is already decidedly socialist (though certainly not in name --oh no we could never admit that)

Liberals aren't socialist --though I am. So was Jesus for that matter.

Burning the flag is not treasonous. Supoorting a President who attacked an unarmed sovereign nation is.

I personally don't blame America for 9/11. I blame the current governmental administration, specifically the executive branch. Despite popular belief --Bush does not equal America.

I'm not embarrassed to be an American. I'm embarrassed that Bush is an American.



I'm a loyal American citizen --and dissent when the country goes off track is VERY patriotic.

Lastly -- Colmes is a weeny bucket boy for Fox . I listen to Mike Malloy and Randi Rhodes.

Well - I haven't heard of a liberal who has bombed a gay club or a planned parenthood clinic lately or killed a physician either.

Does this mean that all conservatives bomb gay clubs and clinics and kill physicians? Or, could it be that there is a radical faction to both?

I think Hiro's argument holds very well.

/*** Hands Kiamat a tie dye shirt, some birkenstocks and a big bowl of Rocky Road ice cream.

Umm..I personally have been attacking her for a long time. She constantly lies, shows her ignorance, is hateful and more than likely being paid very well to further the neo-con propoganda.

ev·i·dence 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment 2. Something David's statement lacks

proof 1.The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.
2. a. The validation of a proposition by application of specified rules, as of induction or deduction, to assumptions, axioms, and sequentially derived conclusions.
b. A statement or argument used in such a validation.
3. Convincing or persuasive demonstration
4. Something lacking from David's arguement

con·jec·ture 1. Inference or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork. 2. A statement, opinion, or conclusion based on guesswork 3. See David's statement

-Kiamat Dusk
Not Korg's alt