DO you think a Mall Owner has the right to DELETE your objects?

I am curious to know what the SL community thinks of this. I know that many others like myself have various spots in game where we have rented out booths to sell our product. Some vendor machines are non copy.. like the animated ones that Sensual Casanova sells at her place, a great way to show the animation before your customer buys it. This is a non copy item. So if a mall owner deletes your vendors/products. Do you think its right. I am not talking about return ... I am talking about deleting on purpose, without notifying the person also or even trying to contact them to give them an option.

~Tya

Bloody unnessesay, no matter how late a renter might be. Return is enough.

From an ethical standpoint, it's probably not OK, but from a landowner's perspective, it's well within their rights to do so. Not sure why a mall owner would delete; return takes absolutely no more effort.

Well, I would assume you'd have some sort of verbal agreement with the mall owner covering something like that... and I doubt anyone would agree to random, unapproved deletions, so no. This is, of course, assuming that the person owning the materials has been upholding their side of the agreement, also, in which case Return is more than adequate.

It's a courtesey for them to try and contact you about your object. It's nice, but if the client doesn't show up there isn't any choice. I sorta assume that objects I put in rented units is forefit if I don't bother to come and pick them up.

As a mall owner, I consider that to be out of order. Of course, it can be done accidentally, and I have, only to apologise to the merchant straight away of course.

On the other hand, they have every right do do so, assuming you're lease is up of course.

Why delete when you can return....

Land owners have the option of returning or deleting someones objects that is left on their land.

Deleting Objects from mall spaces sucks. It is rude and unnecessary.

Returning is preferred but there may be glitches in the system that will prevent the owner of the returned objects from being actually returned.

I prefer to pick up my own objects from vending spots because I can delete what I need to and keep what I need to. Also It doesnt mean having to dig through every inventory folder to find the returned objects because they dont always show up in lost and found.

For a mall owner to delete a merchant's materials without asking is simply rude behavior on the mall owner's part. It takes no more effort to return than to delete, so the only reason I can see the owner would delete, unless he/she knew it was what the merchant wished.. is because the mall owner wishes to be mean and rude to the merchant.

I just want to pipe in for a min... this was done to me today.. on purpose... out of spite due to a converstation that took place before the weekend. I had been removed from the group.. np.. doesnt bother me. I had logged out and I also was barely online the last several day. I went in today to go and pic up my things. Over the course of the weekend I never once recieved an IM, email .. nothing. I contacted the mall owner, and said you could have just returned to me. .not delete, as i have NON copy vendor machines. An their reply was .. you know i dont return. the lose of the vendor machine does not bother me... its the ethics of the mall owner. I have actually filled an abuse report on this person because it was done to hurt and anger, not deleted by accident.

A mall owner who just deletes things without a business reason to do so is demonstrating his lack of concern for or appreciation of the vendors who make his/her mall successful, and is showing a lack of business acumen which will ultimately catch up with him/her. Inevitably those who mix business and personal emotions find the business suffers as a result, especially when they carry out vendettas against those people who ultimately make or break them. Sounds like just an excuse to be mean to you, and whether he had the 'right' to delete them or not, it was poor judgment on his part.

I requested that the ability to delete someone's objects be removed from SL ages ago.

Not many people liked the idea.

This is why you make backups of your items.

It is rude in my opinion not to return but instead to delete your items, but I feel it is their option to do so.

yes. a landowner has the right to do whatever they will with their land.

they are, however, under a moral obligation to return your rental money if they break your agreement presuming the item they deleted was a violation of the lease. the game doesn't force them to be honourable though.

they also have common business ethics to deal with if they want to be successful. there are several things they can do before getting to the point of removing an item. they can also return the item rather than delete it outright. egg on their face will only hurt them in the long run.

I agree with you Moleculor -- there is no reason for delete, return is a non-destructive means to the same end.

If my neighbor parked his car on my lawn, I STILL do not have the right to destroy it.

I say no.

They /can/ delete, but if mall owners do that of which I hear about, I'll warn anyone that even mentions the place about that particular policy.

Yes, they have the right to do it, because it is their land. That doesn't mean they should do it, though. Return is just as easy as Delete. If a mall owner deleted my stuff rather than returning it, I would not do business with that person again, because they are obviously an asshole. I would also tell others to beware of the land owner's business practices.

I think the problem with this is if a friend builds a large structure on your land and says to just delete it because they don't want to be flooded with a ton of return objects you can't. When land switches hands you'll have to return every object.

This sucks, especially when you have offline messages forwarded to you.

I guess the other person could come delete them though. But If they are offline you have to wait for them to get back online.

Delete has benefits and probs

Tya,

I think Mall/Land owners have a right to delete anything they want left on thier land, however I don't think it is the right thing to do, especially when it is a mall and people trust them enough to use thier place for business. I am sorry this has happen to you... give me an IM and tell me how many vendors you lost, I will replace them for you....again I am sorry this has happened Not nice at all!

I do have copies of all my items, though one of the vendor machines i use is a non copy vendor. If that is deleted then that vendor machine is gone for good.

I don't like the idea simply for the fact that sometimes someone is doing you a favor by deleting the objects. I let some people practice building on my land when I don't have auto-return on. I don't want to Return 130 untextured cubes to someone's inventory when it's obviously just trash left behind. I also sometimes ask landowners to simply delete my vendors/objects if they are moving plots or doing renovations, because I have copies and it's easier than sorting out which of multiple items in my inventory is the updated or most recent version.

Aww you are a sweety Its not the fact I lost something, its the principal, business ethic.

Well that totally changes things. I'm fully in the unnecessary boat now. In fact I don't know why someone wouldn't opt to return an item rather than delete it..