SL has an unsustainable lack of community

Mom sure was busy back in the day!

I could say something but I think MOM would smack me upside the head for being condescending....but I dont think we all have the same daddy like she told us....ducks while waiting for the smack....

Some others sit in little boxes at 500m pathetically wanking themselves off as their avatar moves woodenly around an animation ball
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HEY! Don't dis the animation balls...they've helped with some of my most memorable moments!

If they're memorable moments, I do pity you.

there's like 600 sims now. i've been playing about 6 months now and i probably haven't been to 3/4 of the sims and i sure don't visit them all on a regular basis. i bet nobody does so it's not too amazing not to see somebody in sl.

The person who wrote the original post has a point. I agree with everyone else that it's fine to have clubs and fine to have Tringo for those who enjoy them. I don't understand Tringo, but I enjoy Bingo. A lot.

But as a new player, I find that there really isn't enough to DO. And it is difficult to meet people, or even find people, except at clubs or sitting around playing Tringo. So I think she is absolutely right about that.

The best thing to DO, it looks like, is the Dark Life game. I have gone to look at it. But since I also play Anarchy Online, I kind of don't need that sort of thing (yet). For things like rides at Spitooney Island, seems like a lot of residents (some of whom I know from other games) are too blase to enjoy that kind of silly play much - I like it, though!

Just about as soon as I arrived in the game, I determined that what would hold my interest is building things. (Not houses, since I have no land, but things.) Which, by the way, I find ALMOST too frustrating to enjoy. But I'm giving it time, studying at Ivory Tower, and I do enjoy it. Anyway, I can definitely understand those who are so into building that they don't care about the social aspects at all. I can spend hours building and decorating in Sims 2, and if real life people dropped in now and again, I would be happy as a hog in mud. (It's a lot more mathematical here, though, and frustrating.)

But socially, the world is VERY disconnected. People don't necessarily hang around their own land, or if they do, they're not on when you are, or if they are, they may be busy building something and you feel like you're intruding. Then there's the fact that I get my two apartments, furnish them, and build things to go in them, but no strangers are going to drop in regularly, like they do in TSO.

The events schedule is WONDERFUL. For me, though, too much of it is Tringo or a Best Underwear contest at a club. I really don't like clubs. I like to keep busy. Which is hard to do in this game, unless you build things.

So for me, it is really a matter of either getting good enough at making things to have that as my raison d'etre in the game, or just . . . not playing it much. I'm giving the whole thing a lot of time, though, because I do enjoy building and expect to meet more people and find more things as time goes on.

She's also right about people being aloof (and sometimes rather exclusionary and snide, though that goes on in a lot of games). Prokofky is right, too, that people are awfully busy feeling like they are smarter than the others, lol; more so than in other games, I think.

Then there's the size of everything - and the lag I suffer no matter what, unless I stay in one place. The more I fly around, the worse it gets, till I have to log off. It is discouraging to click the arrow then have to wait two seconds, and then, wonder how far I'm gonna go this time. I have put my settings at apparently their optimal mode for this problem, so I suppose I have to live with it - but it is just another factor that discourages traveling to meet new people.

I think the original poster pinpointed the very same things that I noticed when I started the game. She was right on the mark about a lot of it. That's what you do see when you first get on the game. Having said that, though, I know there are better things to be found (just maybe not ENOUGH). For example, my FAVORITE THING OF ALL THINGS is the Captions game. Very funny, very friendly. (Wonder why it's not on the events schedule for tonight.) I also enjoyed the witticisms at Podium Payout, though the lag is such for me there that I probably won't attend often. And there are a lot of people here who are smarter than the average bear.

Still, the game is definitely not for the agoraphobic, or anyone who wants to find like-minded people speedily (unless you're a club type), or anyone who wants to make any money without owning a lot of land or being a super-builder -scripter.

coco

Awesome.

Great way of discribing it really, but you leave one thing out: everytime a new item comes out that one of these above people buy up, be it clothing, objects, or scripts. It's usually done in some underground group at this point that's sick of all the bullshit of the people above. I know that I almost never hang around all those places listed above, just with a bunch of friends and we try and see what stuff we can build in SL that hasn't been seen before.

Really if you don't want to deal with the clubber generation of SL, you've gotta look for the oldbie generation or just anyone who's gone and cut themselves off from the rest of the world. I really can't understand how people do that all day in SL myself either.

All that stuff above may be the first stuff you see in SL and may be the stuff you'll see in Second Life for a long time, but if you hang around and start exploring a bit i'm sure you'll find some people who you'll like.

If they're memorable moments, I do pity you.
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OH no she didn't!!! Perhaps a few "memorable" moments on some animation balls would make you a far more pleasant person. However, there may be no hope since you seem to be stuck in pissy mode. You have my sincere best wishes that you find something to be happy about!

This is patently absurd. I've had several "real conversations" with people. If you take a moment to listen, instead of blather on about your Utopian dreams of us all sitting around a campfire, holding hands, and singing "Michael Row Your Boat Ashore", you may just be surprised.

My house is positioned in the sky, and I've yet to sit there "wanking off" watching my avatar engage in simulated sex. But if someone wishes to do so, then by all means, it's their right. I go to clubs, I've been to a tringo game or two, and there's nothing wrong with either. I've met an interesting, diverse group of people, by wasting my time at these things.

I say, get out there, stop looking down your nose at people, and mingle, for god's sake. I've witnessed a strong sense of community here, and in my own way, have become a part of it. Yes, there are those I spend most of my time with, but that's how life is.

Shade

Insightful.

So what is Second Life and what should it be?

Tell me what I should be building and I'll get on it.

I think she wants LL to mandate that we build stuff that pleases her.

Oh why oh why did all of you have to be so interesting and entertaining today!!!

I really must get back to work!!! Ok everybody just step back and take a 5 minute

breather, then meet me over at my place and we can all have one group hug and talk.

Oh and bring those animations balls that wank you off. We may need them.

I'll ask you politely, and I'll ask you only once.

Please stop attributing comments of your own to me with the caveat "I think", please stop "translating" my posts into what you want me to be saying, and stop putting words into my mouth.

Next time, I won't ask nicely.

So what? You'll just find yourself edited again. Or suspended. Or banned.

You don't scare me, despite what you may think...

Will you send me some more offensive IMs while I am offline now?

You are right. SL isn't A community, it's a bunch of communities. Just like the real world, we have some of everything. Businessmen, architects, gamers, vampires, furries, goths, clubers, artists, scripters, merchants, nerds, popular people. Every has their own little niche where they belong.

I think for some SL has become something of the amusement park that you cant see everything in one day, so they dont find their "roots", thus not forming the community attachments you would in a smaller enviroment.

I know it still overwhelms me. But I have chosen to use one club as a "home base" there are the friends I chose to have, I have the people I play Slingo with, and that is fine for me. I think I am building a community for me.

Now for the SO who is also here, that is not for him. He is in the Forest, always, that is his gig, and its cool. I never hardly go, cos I am just not usually geared up for who is usually there but, hey thats cool. My SO isnt keen on the club scene, particuraly the goth areas. But he has found "his" community.

It's not large, but it does exist. I think its what will happen as SL gets bigger. The Trees will be not seen by the Forest.

Kit

Sayeth Ferris, who has appropriate quote for every situation: Pardon my French, but Cameron is so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass, in two weeks you'd have a diamond.

A warrant for your arrest has been issued for resurrecting this thread without a license.

God invented groups for a reason, I've got all the community I need.

This thread has been a wonderful read guys funny, imaginative, occasionally manipulative, thx to you all

Community is only a percieved thing. We are all quite alone within our minds. Some chose to use whatever communication skills we have to connect to others, who obviously are just as alone in their heads as we are. The failure to connect on any given attempt does not mean there is no community. Even repeated attempts does not. Though if too many attempts are made, without success, there is a problem with the communicator, not the community!

So, you have informed the world your not quite ready for the rest of us yet. We will try to wait in patience for you if you will attempt to work through this problem. The problem is never the rest of the world is not there....we obviously are here...

I'm a real newbie, only been here 4+ months. I have many dozens of people as friends, in quite a variety of settings and groupings. I got there by using what intelligence I was given, being willing to help others, and staying away from the types of things bad guys try, such as land schemes. Very very bad choice, as we all know for thousands of years, land has been used in various schemes to cheat people. Your idea may have been awesome, but it wasnt time for you to bring it out. First, become known as a honest and reputable person, then consider something of that nature. There are plenty of other options.