Why does he do it??

The thought that just occured to me is exactly what Chip has said.

You need to write to your audience.

It doesnt matter whether your points are good or bad if only a small fraction of people read them.

Regarding all forum posts:

From this point on, I will wait for the movie.

Look! (now that I've finished reading the thread) Half you turkeys haven't even bothered to read the post in question! And here you are talking about the FIC again! FORCING me to go back now and seriously speed-read the entire thing!

So that I can report ACCURATELY here that there is NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in the long post Prok wrote which was the subject of this ENTIRE thread that has ANYTHING to do with the FIC or ANYTHING ELSE OF THE KIND!

If you're gonna criticize somebody, you sure as heck better at least bother to read the post first! I mean, come ON!

Chances are excellent whoever the original poster was APPRECIATED all the knowledge and help Prok offered her on the questions she asked - NONE of which I REPEAT NONE had anything to do with conspiracy theories or anything else of the kind!!!

It's like someone asked for a recipe for apple pie in a thread and I came along and posted my fabulous Arkansas Apple Pie recipe, complete with advice and commentary to help that person make the best Arkansas Apple Pie she could, and a buncha TURKEYS get on another thread to say I was going on again about the patriarchal society of certain third-world countries!

Stop just spouting your same old stuff when it isn't even applicable! Wastes my time and forces me to go read posts I find boring!

coco

Outside the basic rules of writing, knowing the audience is key. The average, non-technical reader today reads on the 8th to 9th grade level. The average, technical audience reads on the 10th to 12th grade level.

Readers of popular culture care less for philosophy and the history of their culture than readers of historical culture.

Forums readers scan rather than read posts.

Anyone who is interested in being HEARD writes to be heard.

All inferences apply.

Bah. By the time I finish reading Prok's original post and posting the reply above, page 4 has sprung up.

Cienna, what's obtuse is spouting off about something you refuse to even read. If anyone needs to read carefully - or even read at all! - it's you.

coco

Apparently, I was not far afield in telling you to work on your reading comprehension.

This thread is about Miss Prokovy Neva's tendency to post far more words than anyone will ever read, and the possible reasons why such a thing is the preferred means of Miss Neva.

The linked post was intended as an example of that affected prolificacy.

The answer to the question 'Why does she do it?' is simple and has been answered by any number of people in this thread, including myself.

Once more, I advise you to look to your reading comprehension.

edit: What is 'obtuse' is you, it seems. Oh well.

Just scanning quickly I came up with this:

"What other ways to market this space? Well, with the anti-business and anti-land baron climate in the game, boy, will you have a tough row to hoe."

Now who does Prokofy always lay the blame on for that?

I think we all know, and this is the general tone of 90+% of his posts.

There are other veiled comments to this end in that thread as well.

For clarities sake: I look at all of the posts on the forums as a work of fiction. It amuses me to observe other peoples wirtten drama. Some people watch TV, other read Bodice Rippers. I come to these forums. Its entertainment for me. And really is entirely Independent of my SL expereince-like two different games.

So to the person who said I was correct in comparing prokofy to a fiction writer, absolutely. I never address the truth of what Prok says, except to say that sometimes I share his observations. Sometimes I share the observations about him too.

But you see, what spawns and inflames the vitriol in the forums is condescending posts like this from Nolan Nash:

"Hopefully, someday you will understand that this was P's MO in TSO as well. The messianic hero that was going to "tell them how it is" and give those scumbags "what for".

The thing is, he isn't going to "change" SL. Eight months of pseudo-intellectual banter later, people are still not buying it, other than a select few that don't want to or can't see through the haze of hatred emanating from him.

So, I ask you, what good does all of his finger pointing do? Other than to divide people? Ahhhh, there we have the answer; divide people. That part of the plan has worked all too well, a pity you don't or won't see it."

I donlt know if he intended it to be as insulting as i read it, but, in essence, it sure does look like he is goading me. Especially given that my post was on writing and not on motives. This is why I make the point that you should not simply judge character by spelling ability, or by what people say in the forums. It can be misunderstood.

I would think many of the people who spend a good deal of time on the forums do so from work.

If not, if they are interested in Second Life, why not just log in?

That being said. I know I for one dont have the time nor inclination to read, like the original poster mentioned, 35 paragraphs from the same poster.

Im probably not alone in that. So the audience for the forums in US daytime is at least a portion, people who go to the forums as a sort of break from their "paperwork"

They arent going to be looking for extremely long, potentially repetitive, rhetoric - whether its well written and true - or not.

Ok, Nolan, you found one - I didn't get it in my scanning. What you found was what Prok believes - and HE GETS TO BELIEVE THAT IF HE WANTS TO! I can still maintain it wasn't the predominance of his post or the intent of his post.

And Cienna, I will agree you are correct. The topic is SUPPOSED to be: "Why does Prok write such long threads?"

Ignoring the fact that this is, in the first place, a wrong use of the forums, I see now that you are correct that discussion of any and all of Prok's posts, on any subject, can be considered properly under the umbrella of this unfortunate thread topic.

But it is intellectually dishonest, personally dishonest, and a reduction of the people who do it, to grasp any straw to take on again about your own personal dislikes of a person.

I believe in taking every post a person makes at face value. To criticize a person's efforts to help another person by sharing experience with him/her, in this case, on questions involving real estate (a subject in which Prok is an expert), is just . . . LOW. And you all know it.

coco

Sorry Miss we are out of Apple pie today, would you care for some Cocoanut Creme instead?

Well colette, they can always skip them. Read what you want, Ignore the rest, I always say.

Delicious! of course, Cocoanut always is!

But what I really need to do is go clean the kitchen. Fun and involving as this has been - I quite share Jake Reitfeld's view of forum reading - I'm gonna have to actually work now.

Signing off for now,

coco

Jake,

I actually agree with you. If nothing else, Prokofy's histrionics keep people talking. Prokofy is always consistent - you can generally predict the post down to almost being Prokofy picking which template to use for a reply. Is it maddening at times? Yeah, but as of late I just tend to find the humor in all of it. The person who claims to have all the answers to SL's ills is so far off base that all you can do is laugh and play along.

Oddly, I don't actually dislike Prokofy as a person - at times I reach my fill of the same types of hyperbolic,hypocritcal posts and so I keep Prokofy on ignore and just read selective posts. One minute, people helping newbies are evil and have privilige fueled cybersex orgies with the Lindens, until it is Prokofy or Anshe offering the help, then there is no bias or ulterior motive. On any topic that Prokofy speaks of, you will find a corresonding pot calling kettle black post somewhere else.

It entertains me, because I have never seen such blatant hypocrisy - Prokofy seems to almost revel in it, to the point that I have to agree, at times this all seems very tongue in cheek. More than anything, Prokofy seems to be acting out a role in some high drama, and in that regard, Prokofy delivers an Oscar worthy performance.

We all play a role in this forum drama, Prokofy's role just seems to be very one note, which is why it gets tiring. He is the equivalent of Ashley Judd - same performance no matter what movie it is - same delivery, same lack of talent, same character every time. Yet somehow, I love Ashley Judd movies. Prokofy has managed to become both the Anti-Christ and a guilty pleasure at the same time, that is an accomplishment.

Yeah, you caught me.

See how that works? You replied to only what you perceive as a personal attack, and didn't bother to respond to the rest of my post, because of one sentence. Just like what the Prokofy posse claims to dislike so much.

Honestly though, you're taking that comment way too personally. You were the one speaking from a position of being "educated" and how your professor taught you something you feel is pertinent to the Prokofy issue.

I never point out grammatical or spelling errors unless someone brings up their college experience or the like, and then makes errors. You know, speaking of "irony" and all...

Well, true enough, but thats the point. If Prok wants people to learn from the things he has to say, he will need to write in a manner more people will read it.

Actually Prok's extremely long posts are a benifit to those who disagree with him, since people will read the posts of those that disagree, and not bother reading 90% of Prok's replies.

Ah, but your premise was that there were "NONE"!

We all know Prokofy believes this and is allowed to, no matter how wrong he may be. It's being told over and over again that is aggravating. If Prokofy wasn't a good writer and intelligent, I doubt many people would care or respond.

The overwhelming majority of his posts have some allusion to the bad people who are holding back SL.

It has become trite and droll, and therefore, many people don't bother to read it all once they realize it's just another long post, with the same old "revelations", day in, day out.

I don't waste the energy to dislike her. I pity her. I sincerely and truly feel sorry for her. She really does not grasp how she carries her issues wherever she goes, and she really does not understand why things do not change for her. She needs help. Seriously. And I hope she gets it before it is too late.

Wait for the DVD. It's a renter.

There was in fact a follow-up to this, adressing other aspects of your post. But in general I was not holding my education or the comments of my professor out in any condescending way. I simply stated that dickesn was a good writer and he was long winded. In point of fact, I don't think your whole post was a personaly attack. Only the sentence at the end about spelling. It accomplished nothing and added nothing to your point.

So I wondered what you wanted to accomplish by the barb? Shall I admit that I paid a small fortune for a law school education and I cannot type? I am too lazy to bother to spell check posts, because In gerneal my secretary checks my writing for me? Nor do I see how my ability to spell, or properly construct a sentence in a post is a reflection on the accuracy of my statement.

I did not repsond to the rest of your post, because i did not want to make an assaye into the relative merits of prokofy's posts and intentions. I don't know what his motives are, and frankly I don't care. I pointed no fingers in my post, ans wondered what made you feel a need to point one at me?

This thread is entirely Off-Topic and not at all appropriate for the SL Forums. As such, I'm moving to Off-Topic and closing it. Please refrain from starting posts where the sole purpose of the thread is to call out or personally attack another Resident.