Why does he do it??

I didn't even finish reading your post.

LOL, Jake.

I see I am late to this party.

But clearly, the post referred to is intended as an informative one, a response to the ACTUAL questions posed by the original poster, detailing Prok's experience with that very question, laid out in good faith for the original poster in case she wants to read it. As with many other things I'm not interested in, I don't feel the need to read it. WERE I interested in the question at hand, I would read, and learn.

But as usual, since Prok dared to speak somewhere, about anything, it also provides a springboard for this thread, another chance for a lot of little chickies to gather together and cheep cheep about the big bad wolf again. Talk about boring repetition.

coco

**walks into thread wearing a cute waitress outfit and serves pie to the guest**

Lol Jonquille I got to disagree with you there. Yes good writers can be clean and concise, and I love them for it, but then my college english lit professer kept telling me Charles Dickens was a good writer, and he was a master of verbosity! In general Prok attacks complex subjects, or addresses many people's comments in his posts. So they are long. I read fast, so I am more concerned that they be fluid, and allow me as a reader to follow the various diatribes and responses. In that way Prok does write well.

Some like Dickens, Some like Hemmingway. I like both.

I always read these posts, and afterwards take pride in bruiting about my newly-acquired vocabulary.

Prokofy Neva is he. I haven't told you any such thing. And it *is* a matter of issue because Prokofy Neva *is* a he. This isn't a question of "ape shit," it's a question of just what's obvious and visible LOL.

Um, where did you get your "truth"? On some other av or alt? Who? But I don't say different things to different avs. I have some femalt alts, too, is that what you mean? But my main, Prokofy Neva, is he.



Hehe that explain why you have SO MUCH to say about me then LOL.


That sounds like a splendid plan...to reveal yourself as a brainless little idiot. LOL. So glad YOU are doing it so I don't have to, and risk being accused of a "person attack" ROFL.



Do you have a life? Do you even have a second life?


My mental health is fine. Is yours?

Anyone who has this much compulsion about answering *other people's* posts instead of *creating their own* really needs to ask that question about themselves.

Absolutely can not agree with this statement. There are plenty of very long books in any library you visit. Are you saying they are badly written because they are long?

If you have a lot to say, sometimes it takes a lot of words to say it accurately and clearly.

One of the things I've never understood about a lot of the posters here: their self-proclaimed ability to argue with stuff they admit that they refuse to read.

I, for one, can appreciate good writing when I see it, even if I don't always agree with every point being made. I can also see lazy thinking and poor language skills when I see them, even if I may agree with some of the points I think they are trying to make.

Clear and Concise are not at all interchangeable words. Using them as if they were doesn't make them so.

In the spirit of brevity, I'm stopping now

What's your name sweetie? *pats your ass* Why don't you bring me a big 'ol slice of that Cherry Pie and top off my coffee sweet cheeks? *belches*

Pssst...umm..you just made a personal attack. (see above)

About this matter of concise writing. Being concise is good, yes. But criticizing a writer simply for "writing too much" on these forums is often a weak rejoinder and somewhat of a fallacy, due to these factors:

1. Real writers spend huge amounts of time cutting and editing, trying to write to space, and always figuring out how to condense four words into one. Unlike in high school, when so many kids spend huge amounts of time trying to fill UP space, lol. But writing for the forums isn't a paying job, and spending extra hours cutting and polishing and rewriting your piece would be a waste of time.

Plus, when you write for publication, very often it's a matter of leaving out entire ideas, points, and subjects, just to fit into that space, and it can take hours - days - weeks, even, before you pinpoint which points really should be left out and can be revisited another time. It takes editors time, too, to make those important and tricky decisions regarding what is really vital, and what could be rationalized for elimination as potentially another subject altogether.

Again, this non-paying venue isn't worth that much effort, especially not for real writers.

2. Some information just takes more space to present, for a number of reasons, including:

(a) your thesis requires several points to be enumerated before the conclusion can be presented, else the conclusion will be false

(b) the original poster has posed a number of questions, and it takes space to answer those questions, with the illustrative material needed to answer them

(c) you just have a lot to say.

This is why there are different lengths of writing in the world. Writing articles, writing books, writing letters to the editor.

One wouldn't criticize a book writer for writing to book length, would one?

Neither should a person be criticized for taking the time to carefully answer the game-related questions of another poster, offering examples, personal experience, opinion, and analysis.

coco

P.S. Edited to point out that as usual, by the time this writer gets finished making all her points as clear as possible and polishing up for public consumption, three OTHER people have already come along and said the same WHOLE THING in 25 WORDS OR LESS.

Ha ha - I'd better add to my list above:

(d) You are constitutionally, biologically, and intellectually incapable of not taking a deep and analytical approach requiring 2,500 words to ANY piece of crap discussion that comes along and catches your fancy, lol.

Hmm .. well actually Prok does write well.

However, I think the Forum Medium really is more suited for concise points if possible.

When a writer writes a novel , she will write in a different style often than an essay.

I think Prok would be more effective getting his ideas across with shorter posts.

As far as attack and counter attack making the posts longer, that sort of thing will hopefully ease with time. There are still a lot of shortened tempers at this time.

You can call me MJ and would you like some cream with that? **giggles**

I would give them a better review if they weren't always so dry and serious. He needs to interperse some comic relief other than the FIC stuff. It was funny at first, but, like even the best comedy, is getting stale.

Yeah, complex subjects like imaginary conspiracies against capitalism. Ironically enough most of those who take issue with him do well at and are proponents of the capitalism game.

If you don't have a true adversary, you can always concoct one.

"Look at these people....." Then when someone dares respond the next chess move is "See, I told you so! They do exist!". Oldest trick in the book for angry, socially inept folks.

Hopefully, someday you will understand that this was P's MO in TSO as well. The messianic hero that was going to "tell them how it is" and give those scumbags "what for".

The thing is, he isn't going to "change" SL. Eight months of pseudo-intellectual banter later, people are still not buying it, other than a select few that don't want to or can't see through the haze of hatred emanating from him.

So, I ask you, what good does all of his finger pointing do? Other than to divide people? Ahhhh, there we have the answer; divide people. That part of the plan has worked all too well, a pity you don't or won't see it.

Oh, and if your going to speak about English lit, at least you could spell check your post.

Lol! you are funny!

coco

Ultimately, the truest thing you did was to compare Prokofy to fiction writers - the comparison is dead on.

Oh, they used to read it Jim, until they figured out it was all vanilla ice cream with different food coloring added here and there.

Anyone who has that much compulsion about answering other people's posts that they REFUSE TO EVEN READ is also illogical in the extreme. You run a real good risk of making a fool of yourself when you talk about things when you purposely don't even know what it is you're talking about.

coco

She tends to attempt to take on complex subjects. Her problem is she isn't up to it, she hasn't done her homework, or she is yet ignorant of the depth and diversity of social structures, and possibly "d - All of the Above".

The first moment she veered from discussing the behavior into discussion and labeling the people, she lost. Period.

Many people read her for entertainment. I have yet to see a single person actually voice any degree of belief in her paranoiac theories or delusional conspiracies. Most people tend toward trying to be kind, granting credence to aspects of the ideology that are common sense (what few there are), and tactfully ignoring the bile in which it all soaks.

The more I ponder it, the more I realise she is ill and in need of help. I just posted elsewhere expressing a level of uncertainty on the matter, but the more I think upon it, the clearer it seems.

In all honesty, reading her for entertainment is not doing her any favors. Then again, those who follow her here aren't interested in helping her, they're like sharks on chum. They sense her instability and feed it to receive their entertainment. And I'm sorry, but that's just as sick.

I cannot imagine what miserable kind of life one would have to endure to convince oneself that a virtual playground, a game, is a place where one's convictions on 'right and wrong' are imperatives that must be enacted for the future of real world progress. Nor can I imagine enduring a pathology that demands attention at all cost.

She's on ignore here. And outside a soon to be canned reply, I will no longer be among the number pointing out her numerous inconsistancies and overt displays of abnormalcy. Upon any amount of reflection, a reasonable person will conclude there is more happening with her and all of it is illness. From there, the only ethical conclusion is to leave her be.... poking the unstable with a sharp stick is hardly benevolent behavior, now is it?

Truly great writing is as short or as long as it needs to be. Just because a book is 4 million pages long, doesn't make it long winded. Conversely, a short story of 500 words doesn't indicate conciseness.

Great writing is what it is. Most of what I've read on the forums is not great writing.

How many times does one have to read the same trite rhetoric to get the idea Coco?

What Prokofy Neva thinks, and anyone who agrees with him = good

Everyone else = bad, and have their hands around SL's jugular.

How many times does it have to be said before we know what's coming in the next haranguing?

If they want to write a novel then they should write one and sell it. If I want to read a novel I will go to a bookstore or library.

I think the operative words there are "if you have a lot to say."

Good writers take into account the venue they're writing in and their target audience. Epic forum posts rarely get read. If the writer has dilluted their message by using 2000 words to convey it most people will skim over without absorbing it at all. Who cares how nicely it's written if the message is lost? If the intent is to create a dialogue or convey a particular point of view to open it for discussion then brevity and a clear thesis are important. If the intent is to write a novel or deliver a sermon then a public forum probably isn't the best place for it.

The rejoinder of the educated? I never claimed I could right or spell. Only that I could read? What, may I ask, does this dig at me actually accomplish. You may disagree with with what ever prokofy does. But the point of the post you are addressing simply says that you can write well and be long winded. I find prokofys posts easy to read, given thier length. I specifically did not comment on whether I agree or disagree with what he says.

Again. What do you gain by making it personal between us? Except to demonstrate your impressive ability in doing exactly that which you say you abhore in Prokofy. A good thing Iromy amuses me, and I take none of this seriously. I might be offended.

Don't be obtuse, Coconut. What Prokovy writes never changes. Hasn't since I've been here. Haven't since before I got here. Will not now.

Also, if you can manage it, kindly try to read for comprehension, as there is a difference between 'playing a game to see if I can reply without reading what she wrote' and 'answering without reading'. Your bias is interesting, but irrelevent.

Finally, I think it is good to have a little hen like you standing by her. She needs help and maybe you'll eventually work yourself out of trying to defend her abnormal behavior and actually help her seek ways to grow beyond the need for it. Well, that is, if you're actually interested in being her friend and not just in playing one on the forums.