How To Deal With A Neg Rating

Hiya I think something needs to be said here about our current rating system. Our current system is in place so that any resident can voice their opinion on 3 things:

Behavior
Building
Appearance

For example:

If someone neg rates your building they are just voicing their opinion of something you built. Same goes for Behavior and Appearance.

Just because someone doesn't care for a building, appearance or behavior there is no excuse to neg rate them back for all 3 ratings. More so please do not IM them insulting remarks its just a personal opinion. That is not how the system works.

It is bad etiquette in SL to swear at the person who rated you neg. It is bad etiquette in SL to be rude to that person.

The rating system is flawed and in my opinion not a good judge of anything. BUT as long as it is in place older SLers like my self do use it.

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I am writing this because yesterday I neg rated 1 thing I did not care for I was cussed at and called a F---ing Noob, griefer, and neg rated 3 times.

Feel free to look at my profile I have no problem neg rating what builds I dont like or negative behavior. Giving my honest opinion on one thing has always cost me 3 neg rates in return. From ppl who do not know how the system is suppose to work.

Its OK to disagree with me neg rating something you built but is it really necessary to neg rate my appearance? Or my Building? Its wrong to do so as it was just an opinion.

I know I should have a thicker skin when it comes to being cussed at but I don't. No one talks to me that way in real life and to be honest I am seriously considering not rating anyone at all either positive or negative as a result. I don't want to have to deal with the backlash an opinion causes.

I hold ppl accountable, so sue me. I'm SL old school

Cath

however, if you neg rated me for building *well probably not, cause I don't build LOL* but if you DID, I'd probably IM you and merely ask why ... I would not cuss you out....But of course, I am probably in the minority. Most people take negative ratings like a slap in the ass. I, on the other hand, just want them explained. Keep smiling.....I don't even LOOK at a person's ratings on SL

If you don't want people's strong opinions back, don't give them out in the first place by neg rating their buildings. Pretty simple really. Oh and plus the ratings system is such an utter waste of time anyway, I've always wondered why people like yourself go round giving so many negs out. *shrug* What exactly do you expect? If they were so thin-skinned to bombard you with neg rates back, it's their perogative and it's a perogative that's completely supported by Linden Lab. So, if you don't want it to happen, don't dish out the negs in the first place.

I never neg rated anyone on porpoise but I guess I must have accidentally because I have a minus 1
in my givin and I'm sorry to whoever it was. My mouse often double clicks on things far away or near the edge or some other glitch accord when looking at something. I just don't know. I'm not the only one who this has happened to a neighbor swears he never neg rated anyone but has a negative in his givin too. So if you did get one by me please stop by and let me fix that if possible. I've been checking everyone I see to find you

I personally could care less if I was neg rated... My policy is, ignore it unless someone says something vulgar to you along with the neg rate, then of course, report their ass!

Arti

Moopf I only give out a neg rating if I have a strong opinion about something covered under that particular rate that I give. I don't go flying around looking for things to neg rate. What I expect is ppl to understand how the rating system is suppose to work. Also to understand the rating are only an opinion not a personal attack.

Cath

In counter point Catherine may I ask when you are going to remove the neg ratings you so judiciously gave me a year ago along with the ones your Alternate account gave me? On all three areas too, I might also add.

Was any of my builds unacceptable if so please let me know which one?
Does the apparall I have on beset hate or loathing in your eyes?
As far as behavior well at times mine may seem contemptable at best but lest we not get in a pissing contest on that and agree to disagree.

However if recollection serves me correctly it was all due to the fact. I wanted to start a buisness that provided Real world wearables for people if they so desired? This was an opinion that you held in contempt as you presumed my "business" would interfere with your SL and to date as far as I know it has not. If anything your contempt has Interfered with my business.

I have nothing against you Catherine and nor will I speak ill of you as I have mentioned previously. In all of our differences in the past I have never resulted to the tatics or negative motives that you have had in confrontation with me.

Yes, I am going back against my word of never directly addressing you however this thread needs to be addressed in the manor of the hipocrisy that it represents.

The only reason I ask this Catherine is I know every neg rating I have ever recieved and if they were well deserved I wear them with pride or I have resolved the issue with the person that gives the rating directly and if they still belive I deserve it I accept it and move on.

However several months ago I thought we had settled a long time issue betwinxt us. Yet, I continue to see the negative ratings in all 3 fields from you.

I'm not attempting to start another war with you Catherine as I do not need it. However I would like my question answered in a civil manor without name calling or mud slinging.

If you can answer my question in a diplomatic matter I will revert back to only addressing you when appropriate.

Sincerely, Shadow Weaver

Momma always said, "if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all."

How is a person supposed to take a negative rating? As constructive criticism? Not likely when its now a permanent (until you decide to change it) negative rating on their profile.

It is infinately more useful to the recipient if you were to send an IM explaining what you dislike about them, their appearance, or their build.

Sounds like you were the recipient of the Three-fold Law: whatever energy you send out, you get back the same, three times as much.

Un-neg rate them, send them an IM, and maybe they will reciprocate.

-Ghoti

You are giving the exact same reason I'm sure the person you neg rated would give in response - strong opinion. Seriously, if you cannot handle the rebuttal, don't instigate the situation in the first place. People respond differently, people view the ratings system differently. Just because they react in a certain way doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong, you're wrong, rude, or suffering from a case of terminally bad etiquette.

Catherine,

I think it is pretty well established by now that our rating system is fundamentally broken. It is why Linden Lab has asked for input on other concepts, like a reputation system. I did want to comment on one thing you said, however. I do think neg rating someone's creation, while your opinion, could easily be taken personally. I know I put a lot of work and time into what I build, and if someone were to neg rate something I created, it is a statement on my creativity and abilities. Yes, it is your opinion, but people do like the validation of others, and when instead they receive a negative remark, that can hurt and is indeed personal. Granted, this is all null and void if the person giving you the neg rating is a moron, then you can view it as a sign you are doing something right - I earned my neg ratings proudly from one person and their many many alts.

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Cat,

It's not necessary, but certainly within thier right. Just as it was within yours to neg rate someones build. People sometimes take neg ratings very personally and can get all hot under the collar when they get one.

If you're willing to dish out neg ratings, you should be prepared to take the return fire.

Cristiano;

Yes sadly it is fundamentally broken. Sorry I wasn't clear on why I would neg rate a build. I usualy neg rate any build that is only a few prims. It is usualy brightly colored or flashing. I dig the creativity in sl its the ones that lack any creativity what so ever that get a neg rate from me. Hell even a 1 prim object can be nice but when its 10x10x10 and flashing the word "F.." no i dont realy care for that.

A new system is definatly needed.

As for undoing all neg rates that have been given there is no way to tell who they were given to.

Cat

Why don't you just remove them then? It's only $3....

They were earned.

well so far i've managed not to be nagative rated yet.
Nor have i rated anyone negative.

(although i have been temped once when i was rudly asked to shut up , but i've managed to control myself)


And the day some little **** gives me a negative rate , i swear i'll show him/her what a tripple negative rate is.

Andie I am starting to think like you too.

Cat

how do you do this? i only know how to see my compiled ratings in my profile.

here's a thought for the lindens. leave the rating system in place but remove the ability to assign negative ratings. let us keep "no rating" and "positive." then we can positively rate things we like, and simply not bother with things we don't. "no rating" won't necessarily mean negative, just that they've not done anything to overly impress us into giving them a positive rating.

The fact that you can negatively rate anyone at ALL in this game only serves to further divide us against eachother.
Create bad blood that you will never forget, because you'll see it in your profile whenever you look!
WTG LL!!

Mina I am sorry you would do that its not how the system is intended to work.

Cath

Sounds good to me Khamon ppl neg rate as a way to get back at each other they use it for vengence and they gang up on ppl and neg rate them. Its sad and un necessary.

Ppl also go to clubs and triple rate positive without ever seeing a build that anyone they rated has.

Yes the system is broken. Now what would be a good new system?

Cat

PS there is NO way to tell where your neg rates came from.

i fully agree... even having the option for negative ratings means that it'll get used... and more often than not vendictively. i've never seen it used responsibly, ONLY vendictively! Non vendictive people typically leave ratings alone on someone or something they don't like.

It's like a nuclear weapon, it always ends in a retaliatory strike of the same nature and usually with more force than initially delivered.

We'd be better off not even having that option. No Rating or Positive Rating. That's how it should be... either that or at least hide ratings from public view so that griefers can't come along and soil your reputation.

Mostly, if i see negative ratings on someone, it's only like 1 or 2 on each one of them, and always an even spread. When i see that combined with tons of positive ratings, i figure someone must've been an asshat and wrongly rated them.

What i hate is that the only negative rating i have (-1 on each) was because i appologized to someone for a misunderstanding and then muted them when they cursed me out in response to the appology... i got negatively rated for not engaging in a childish shouting match... THEN i got banned from the lot by some newbie officer of the group running the place inorder to prevent me from rating the person back... How the *bleepedy bleep bleep* is that even fair?

But, that *is* how it works Cat. That's how it has worked since I started over a year ago. You might be more judicious in handing out ratings, but others may not, and that is thier right. They aren't doing anything "wrong"... they are, evidentally, doing something that you don't agree with.

Juro no i suppose its not wrong. they are working within the current system. I think I will abstain from any ratings from now on. the current system seems to be somewhat of a joke, so why bother.

Cath