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Julianna Pennyfeather
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03-07-2005 16:17
This thread is being started to give residents a chance tell their horror stories about as one resident put it so well " the Lindens are clueless and useless" tell your story here that proves this fact.

i will start it by relaying a couple of incidents with me. Believe me there are some Lindens that have been great but there are some very useless ones too. I dont think a person should be a Linden person if he or she will not be willing to help residents.

Take for instance when a Live help person abused me see some of the previous forums for details on this one. i got a Linden on the line here on SL and she told me out right she could not help me she was in UK. Gee isnt Sl an international community? there are no borders no countries. just simulated virutal communities made up of different nationalies and ethnic groups. Then a Linden treated me as the criminal instead of the victim.

now for the kicker story here. The Lindens will not consider abuse if it is a personal matter as within a group. They wont even do anything if certain people continuous abuse within the name of the group. Certain people who go to the extent of not only extracting the owner of the land from the group, but burn down the business destroy property and al on a continual basis. though on security lists as baned they use scripts to drop on a person's land to get around the security and cause continuous havoic. still the resident has to suffer endless over and over every day these people come on and destroy things, build over and on top of and really cause havoc. when is enough enough. it ties up the owner to not be able to do anyting with the property and possessions as she as outsted from the group, she can banned them yes but cant prevent them from dropping scrips to get around their security. Gee Lindens when is enough enough.
Abuse is abuse no matter if it is persornal or not abuse where things are destroyed yes they can be in SL or taken. and continuous abuse even if personal as Lindens say in a group settng should be a crime. now this person has to figure out a way to keep thier stuff and all the work they put into the property is gone or will be gone if they return all on the acct of some idiots out there who hate and Lindens let them abuse.

Word of advice to all who are thinking of starting a group. Make your group but you are the only officer or a boy friend or girl friend you know in rl someone you have known for years outside here. make all others members if they do not like it tell them to join another group. and dont ever ever set your land to group. i did that and the person i was sharing the land with ate up all the prims never once considered me so i could do nothing was thinking of leaving sl myself lots of times or in the case of a friend ousted her right out of the group and is to this day on a continuous benge to make her life hell making scripts to get around securities and all.

question too was brought up last year and that is is police necessary in SL? I would say no in the sense of a real force as in rl. but we do need some sort of resident avocate system to investigate situations and come between disputes to solve things , have some power to solve them alot like Live help, if not have the power or contact to a real Linden who WILL help

Well lets hear your story of how the Lindens are clueless and useless. See how many facts we can get together to maybe i mean maybe get them to listen and maybe change policies .
Taco Rubio
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03-07-2005 16:51
:eek

Somebody more 'tarded then me!
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Julianna Pennyfeather
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a bit more detail
03-07-2005 16:54
a bit more detail to that incident of the person who got ousted from the group by the other officers.. well that and then the officers proceded to trash this person's business and land and all Then with scripts they drop on the land proceed to come back on it avoiding any security system this person puts up to build on the land adding prims of trash and just a continual harrassment and this kind of behavior making life on SL a total hell and destroying all the work this person and their partner have done to build the successful business and a thread or article personal or not abuse is abuse and continual abuse personal or not should be a crime punished by being banned from sl but the problem with this is that they can come back as different avatars and continuously harrass residents this is just harrassment of one resident will they stop there or will Lindens alow them to go about sl searching for groups so they can destroy Sl through groups and the life in general in Sl making Sl a very unpleasant experience. What if eveyrone withdrew from sl? say for a month and everyone take their avs down to basic i know this is impossible but what if things are going to change and to get the Lindens to change their policies on abuse or wise up and listen to the residents on other matters maybe to attack their pocket book might work?

i do compliment the Lindens that do come to our aid thanks so much.
but lets hear it from the residents stories to back up what residents say about Lindens being useless and clueless. Yes acutually have heard that statement all around SL.
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03-07-2005 17:19
too wordy :/
Zuzi Martinez
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03-07-2005 17:47
all the Lindens i ever ran into were cluefull and usefull. probly helps if you aren't a butt to them. not saying you are..just saying. so yeah i like Lindens. they're fun.
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03-07-2005 17:56
There are Lindens from all over the world. If you really had one say that they couldn't help you because either you or they were in the UK I'd be surprised...
Siggy Romulus
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03-07-2005 18:04
Uncle Linden touched me in my special place...

Philip Linden used his godlike powers so I couldn't fart on his head...

Kona Linden took photos of me rolling my palace into the ocean...

Bub Linden called me an asshat...




The bastards...

Siggy.
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Asha Lumiere
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03-07-2005 18:07
From: Taco Rubio
:eek

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ROFLMAO!!
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Asha Lumiere
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03-07-2005 18:09
From: Siggy Romulus


Bub Linden called me an asshat..

Siggy.


Let's turn this into "My Favorite Linden" instead.

Thumbs up for Bub! :D
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Khamon Fate
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03-07-2005 18:16
the lindens have email addresses. we don't have to bash them in public.
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Hiro Pendragon
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03-07-2005 18:37
mmm... poorly written, 1-sided, vaguely-detailed pieces of hatemail.

Who wants tripe with their drahma?
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Surreal Farber
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03-07-2005 19:21
Damn... I tried to read it, I really did. Those paragraphs hurt me. They made me itch for my red pen.

Can we start a thread about abusing the English language?

Would it be too much to ask that people not be allowed to graduate high school until they can write a simple, clear paragraph; do simple math ... up to fractions let's say; demonstrate an understanding of fundementals of government and economics; present a logical argument and identify faulty logic; and, be able to identify at least which hemisphere other countries are located in? (No kiddies... Belize is NOT in Europe).

I left out demonstrate good manners. In theory, your parents beat that into you.

/soapbox
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Asha Lumiere
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03-07-2005 19:54
I tried too.....more than once. Every time I try to read it my brain starts hurting. But then I read Taco's comment and LMAO!
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Aimee Weber
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03-07-2005 20:08
From: Surreal Farber
Damn... I tried to read it, I really did. Those paragraphs hurt me. They made me itch for my red pen.

Can we start a thread about abusing the English language?

Would it be too much to ask that people not be allowed to graduate high school until they can write a simple, clear paragraph; do simple math ... up to fractions let's say; demonstrate an understanding of fundementals of government and economics; present a logical argument and identify faulty logic; and, be able to identify at least which hemisphere other countries are located in? (No kiddies... Belize is NOT in Europe).

I left out demonstrate good manners. In theory, your parents beat that into you.

/soapbox


Im sorry. I have to agree with Surreal on this one. I had maybe....3 false starts reading that post.
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03-07-2005 21:33
From: Aimee Weber
Im sorry. I have to agree with Surreal on this one. I had maybe....3 false starts reading that post.


Aimee, we ocassionaly agree completley. I tried to sum up my opinions earlier, but yes, it's an eyebleeder.
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Nekokami Dragonfly
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03-07-2005 21:59
From: Surreal Farber
Would it be too much to ask that people not be allowed to graduate high school until they can write a simple, clear paragraph; do simple math ... up to fractions let's say; demonstrate an understanding of fundementals of government and economics; present a logical argument and identify faulty logic; and, be able to identify at least which hemisphere other countries are located in? (No kiddies... Belize is NOT in Europe).

Are you assuming the original poster has graduated from high school (in an English-speaking country), or not?

Though sadly, too many graduates in the US can't do any of these things, much less all of them.

neko
(My dad is currently in the Peace Corps in Belize, but I have to admit, that's the only reason I know where it is... and I do consider myself reasonably well educated.)
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03-07-2005 22:10
All I can say after reading that is...

What? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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03-08-2005 00:00
From: Nekokami Dragonfly
Are you assuming the original poster has graduated from high school (in an English-speaking country), or not?

Though sadly, too many graduates in the US can't do any of these things, much less all of them.

neko
(My dad is currently in the Peace Corps in Belize, but I have to admit, that's the only reason I know where it is... and I do consider myself reasonably well educated.)


The original poster scans like a poorly educated American. Non native English speakers usually make different kinds of mistakes. So do Brits, etc.

I don't usually rant, but I just happened to hit maximum tolerance tonight. Education is not the only measure of the worth of an individual, but it sure makes a difference if you want to be taken seriously. How can you function in a text medium if you can't write clearly.

Anyway, it does continue to amaze me how insular Americans remain. Belizians are so much more knowledgable about the U.S. than even many Americans. Living here during the election was eye opening. OK... I'm headed into this becoming completely OT.
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Vestalia Hadlee
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as a positive suggestion
03-08-2005 00:01
Like everyone else, I found it impossible to follow Julianna's original and follow-up posts. I envision a Linden confronted by an abuse report which reads like them. In this instance, I suspect it's less a matter of Lindens being "clueless and useless", and more one of being faced with the same deciphering problems we've had.


Julianna:
It's clear you're upset about whatever it is that happened. Maybe that keeps you from being able to describe it well.
Do you really feel the Lindens are clueless? Or is it possible they might not have understood your problem, just as we can't?
I suggest you find a friend who understands what's wrong and can tell it clearly and simply. Then have your friend write an abuse report for you to give to the Lindens, or to explain it to them next time it happens.
Sometimes just having a new person say something in a new way can make a difference.
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03-08-2005 01:30
From: Surreal Farber
and, be able to identify at least which hemisphere other countries are located in? (No kiddies... Belize is NOT in Europe).

What the...!? When did they move Belize out of Europe? :eek:
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03-08-2005 03:24
From: Ursula Madison
What the...!? When did they move Belize out of Europe? :eek:


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03-08-2005 04:23
From: Surreal Farber
The original poster scans like a poorly educated American. Non native English speakers usually make different kinds of mistakes. So do Brits,etc.


Excuse me.. English is OUR language. However WE choose to speak or write it is correct. Therefor Brits, (especially the English ones) can not make mistakes. We are perfect, supreme beings. God bless Amer.. ummm England.

**Puts on flame retardant suit and runs for cover...**
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03-08-2005 05:14
Wouldnt want to be Julianna in this thread....no empathy with the Lindens and certainly none in the forums.

Bless her heart. She really thought the forums might have taken this seriously to start a Linden bashing right here in our own backyard.

I have been guilty of eyeball gouging and you guys took it pretty easy on me compared to this roue haha. If I never said "thank you" for not making me feel like a complete "uneducated" > . < L.....looser for it, Im saying it now.

Into the first sentence I said to myself..."self....here we go, its gonna get good".

Julianna, dont feel completely rejected, just take it as a lesson learned.

I couldnt get on the bandwagon this time with you guys. I must be going soft.

:rolleyes:
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03-08-2005 05:19
From: Surina Skallagrimson
Excuse me.. English is OUR language. However WE choose to speak or write it is correct. Therefor Brits, (especially the English ones) can not make mistakes. We are perfect, supreme beings. God bless Amer.. ummm England.

**Puts on flame retardant suit and runs for cover...**


:D
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03-08-2005 05:22
From: someone
God bless Amer.. ummm England.
I'm not even from Lincolnshire and I've got the words right:
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen!
Fret not, the relevant authorities have been notified. :p

And when looking up Lincolnshire so I could make a more geographically salient joke I found this splendid "mostly harmless" description:
The city of Lincoln is bypassed by most visitors to the UK, and that's a pity...
Apparently, the writer had not been to Birmingham ;)
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