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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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05-14-2005 20:22
I can't log in any more than anyone else and my question is why are you submitting us to this? I don't think it's an act of god so it must be deliberate. By deliberate I mean you are submitting us to this by either incomptence or ignorance. At the very least you could explain why you are purposely doing this and how you plan to fix it. Next Tuesday doesn't cut it with me sorry.
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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05-14-2005 20:24
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Wuvme Karuna
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 20:29
Now eboni, i know you aint broke, i know there is money under that bra
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-14-2005 21:04
OK Linden Labs I know you are trying but somehow I don't feel you are trying in the right direction. Do you see all of of these posts? We aren't asking for chat bubbles and other things that will "make SL in line with other online products". We just want to log in and you are making it impossible for us. I have yet to see a company philosophy statement that makes me feel better. All I see is be patient and wait....
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
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05-14-2005 21:08
Well you're not missing much. I finally logged in just now, and everything is running like shite.
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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05-14-2005 21:31
OK you can all flame me as much as you want but I say this is just another example of a software company who says they have bugs wirhout admitting that they created these bugs in the first place. Whatever happened to a sense of responsiblitiy? I know I didn't create SL "bugs" and I doubt if any other user did. I guess they came from outer space.
Whatever happened to good old honesty and a promise to fix what is wrong without trying to BS us? |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 21:37
You do realize that Lindens are having the same problem logging in, right?
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 21:38
It's all part of the same ongoing experiment. Take away the cheese and see how the lab rats react...
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Shadow Weaver
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Join date: 13 Jan 2003
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05-14-2005 21:39
You do realize that Lindens are having the same problem logging in, right? LMAO....sorry I don't think so... _____________________
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Jesse Brearly
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Join date: 20 Mar 2005
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05-14-2005 21:41
You do realize that Lindens are having the same problem logging in, right? Depends if they are logging in from localhost or not. |
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-14-2005 21:44
You do realize that Lindens are having the same problem logging in, right? Sorry Hiro but I didn't create Second Life, the Lindens did. I guess you didn't read my post about acts of god and such. |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 21:58
Sorry Hiro but I didn't create Second Life, the Lindens did. I guess you didn't read my post about acts of god and such. Missing the point. Linden Lab employees are in love with Second Life. They are having the same problem logging in as we are. They are probably just as frustrated, since it's their baby. It's not an "us vs them" thing. That's my point. _____________________
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Wuvme Karuna
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 22:00
They are probably just as frustrated, since it's their baby. Thanks to their custumers hehe _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:02
Thanks to their custumers hehe Yes, I'm sure that's the reason Philip started LL and invested his own money. </sarcasm> TALK to a Linden. They love what they do, and you folks are all giving them shit for it. Please don't make them stop loving it; they'll stop working so hard. _____________________
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Wuvme Karuna
..:: Spicy Latina ::..
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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05-14-2005 22:04
They love what they do, and you folks are all giving them shit for it. Yes im giving them "Shit" for it, since im paying $200 dollars a month, and i cant log in for the past 2 days, and when its time for them to collect my money, im not in a queue list, or they have to wait till i want to pay, they just take it out of my account. YES IM GIVING THEM SHIT! LOL _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:06
Yes im giving them "Shit" for it, since im paying $200 dollars a month, and i cant log in for the past 2 days, and when its time for them to collect my money, im not in a queue list, or they have to wait till i want to pay, they just take it out of my account. YES IM GIVING THEM SHIT! LOL Considering the last time we had a 2-day outage they refunded our money, perhaps the best course of action would be to be supportive rather than abrasive, so they're more likely to give a refund? _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Wuvme Karuna
..:: Spicy Latina ::..
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,669
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05-14-2005 22:09
pfft.. what did they give me.. i think it was like 1k.. pffft
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Yu Xia
Registered User
Join date: 10 Feb 2005
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05-14-2005 22:12
Ah, Hiro...
I feel your pain. Sadly, it would seem that many believe the 'custumer' is always right as well. |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:13
pfft.. what did they give me.. i think it was like 1k.. pffft 48 hours is not worth 1k If you're talking commerce, I'd disagree, because I've noticed trends that sales will increase sharply after an outage / patch. Probably it's due to people not being online and itching to shop. If you're talking tier, 1k = $4 us. So @ 48 hours, that rate would be about 15k a month, or $60US Considering they don't have to give refunds at all, that's not bad. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-14-2005 22:15
Missing the point. Linden Lab employees are in love with Second Life. They are having the same problem logging in as we are. They are probably just as frustrated, since it's their baby. It's not an "us vs them" thing. That's my point.[/QUOTE No you are missing the point and I say this very politely. I am not paying this kind of money to watch a bunch of people trying to get it right. I expect to get a good product for my money just as I would from any company. I do not expect online software companies to be any different from any other company and all I am saying is that I want what I pay for. The Linden employees trying to log in hurts me bad but I doubt if they are paying what I pay each month. |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:16
Ah, Hiro... I feel your pain. Sadly, it would seem that many believe the 'custumer' is always right as well. I worked in retail. Basically, if you are busting your ass (and not sleeping) to help a customer out, and they are ungrateful, then it's okay to assume that the customer is "not right". Why is the assumption always that LL is doing nothing during an outage? I simply cannot fathom it. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:21
No you are missing the point and I say this very politely. I am not paying this kind of money to watch a bunch of people trying to get it right. I expect to get a good product for my money just as I would from any company. I do not expect online software companies to be any different from any other company and all I am saying is that I want what I pay for. The Linden employees trying to log in hurts me bad but I doubt if they are paying what I pay each month. This, however, is not what you've been saying in the thread. This is rationally stated. What you posted was this: Linden Labs why are you doing this to us? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't log in any more than anyone else and my question is why are you submitting us to this? I don't think it's an act of god so it must be deliberate. By deliberate I mean you are submitting us to this by either incomptence or ignorance. At the very least you could explain why you are purposely doing this and how you plan to fix it. Next Tuesday doesn't cut it with me sorry. You allege deliberate / incompetant / ignorant behavior by LL. And then you demand to know what was being done, when you could have checked the announcement forum and found out instead of posting a mean post like this. We're all upset, Susie. Do you think you stressing out the devs by accusing them of being ignorant / incompetant / deliberately victimizing you is going to fix things faster? _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-14-2005 22:24
This, however, is not what you've been saying in the thread. This is rationally stated. What you posted was this: You allege deliberate / incompetant / ignorant behavior by LL. And then you demand to know what was being done, when you could have checked the announcement forum and found out instead of posting a mean post like this. We're all upset, Susie. Do you think you stressing out the devs by accusing them of being ignorant / incompetant / deliberately victimizing you is going to fix things faster? I have no idea what you are talking about and I don't recall calling anyone ignorant. All I am saying is that LL created SL and I want my money's worth pure and simple. You can read all you want into that. |
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Yu Xia
Registered User
Join date: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 8
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05-14-2005 22:26
No you are missing the point and I say this very politely. I am not paying this kind of money to watch a bunch of people trying to get it right. You are mistaken. You are paying for what you agreed to upon accepting the EULA. |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
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05-14-2005 22:29
I have no idea what you are talking about and I don't recall calling anyone ignorant. All I am saying is that LL created SL and I want my money's worth pure and simple. You can read all you want into that. Susie, don't try and backpeddle here. Please read your own initial post. You said that the login problems were: (a) deliberate and by that "you meant" either out of: (b) ignorance (c) incompetance. It's your words. If you don't want to say that, perhaps you should go back and edit your original post, and perhaps apologize? _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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