Attacked in-game!!

If you still get these IMs over E-mail, it could be because the IMs got queued up so far on their mail server that you're still getting them long after you had SL stop generating them.

That alone is enough reason to kick their admins into overdrive. I'm surprised they didnt do anything about this just yet.

Matlock, Aimee? I was thinking America's Greatest Hero and the A-Team.

i still have that theme song in my head... "believe it or not I'm flying on air..."

That is a favorite song of mine too. And as much as I might be from the future, Matlock is a timeless classic in my eyes.

In all seriousness, however, Sophos, I wish you well in getting this resolved soon.

strangely enough there is no balog on the mailserver of LL.. they told me..
but there is no backlog on mine either...

after yesterday the emails stopped..

total emails received: about 45000

about the snapshot i posted you should imagine the text got up and up like it was 1L$ sale at Vindi Vindaloo's store..

going up a whole screen in 2 secs...

i couldnt report every 10 messages.. thats impossible.. after the object was found Lee figured out (or was it jack.. don't recall) the object sent 4500 messages/ hour.. well. that would be about 75 a minute/ 1,25 a second...
it was a lil faster then that.. i think about 2 a sec..

in-game i get no messages.. and outside sl i get no emails anymore..

but still.. in the ploice blotter i see nobody bein banned for life.. so i continue IM-ing big land owners to ban this guy.. If LL doesnt do it.. ill have to do it myself...

If I read all correctly this was one intentional attack that caused more than 500 US$ in damages, beside major incovenience. As tool of the attack SL system and SL e-mail server was used.

Mmmmm, I would say: anything short of permanently banning this person, all alt accounts, credit cards and IP addresses is absolutely unacceptable.

I also think it would be good move of Linden Lab to charge the attackers credit card with 500 US$ and use that money to directly pay Sophos' email provider. But I try be realistic here: Linden Lab lawyers will probably veto this.

Filing criminal charges also seem justified, but I don't know how that works if the victim lives in Europe and the attacker, presumably, in United States. Does anybody know how somebody in the U.S. can effectively be sued from Europe?

maybe this per(son need the same tratment?

give me the green light and i put for sale a mail sending box on this guy's key for 1L$ :!P

Mmmm, could you get one of those security system scripters to do one networked and centrally administered rocket launcher script? I would like put this in my sale signs and some other prims, then just use central console to ban such griefers and have nuclear interceptor rocket make them burn in hell if they get close to my land

Well, ok, maybe not nuclear rocket, but something to ban/unban within TOS rules As is now it is somewhat feasible for me ban people from malls, but my for-sale land would take too long as is much too distributed in split in little parcels.

O_O you just gave me a new scripting idea

CENTRALISED BAN LIST !!

!

if you can make this work, i will pay you for it.. big time...
including the rocket launcher Ashe mentioned

Thank you very much for helping me on this Anshe.. its very much appreciated..

I hope he looooves shopping muahahahahaha

everybody feels like that. even immature brainless feebtard griefers. my whole life has been a series of looking back at how much of a juvenile childish loser i was the year before and being glad i'm mature and grown up and above all that now. then i repeat the process the next year.

POLL!!!

let us be the judge now..

what would you choose??

This is actually a really good point. I don't believe in eye-for-an-eye justice, but if we actually ARE getting the whole story, and Linden Labs is being complacent about this attack, then go for it. Sophos, I would carefully document exactly what this ex BF did to you, carefully document your conversations with the Lindens, especially any part where they justify their non-action (which you will use to prevent action against you) then attack your attacker exactly how they attacked you.

Before you do this though I would give Linden Labs one more chance. Take the aforementioned documentation and send it to Robin with a note "I am about to post an outline on the forums describing an IM spam procedure which you are currently condoning. Are you SURE you consider this within TOS/CS?!"

I have a feeling the prospect of "Kyrah's Linden Approved 1 dollar IM spam machine" appearing in stores everywhere may prompt them to reconsider.

this won't work..
mr. J. could return the emails immediately .. they would go to the owner of the object.. i didn't do that because my gf was the owner..

it would work if we would give him an object.. or sell it in a fake-store to him..

I could make a new shop under my alt (whitch hasnt been ever discovered by anyone yet) and sell i.e. pottery..

get him to buy it

and activate it a week later... so he won't know what hits him..

hereby a message to the lindens... because i am not going to spend more time on this then absolutely neccesairy:

Are you sure you want to leave me with my damage just like this>?.. Are you sure you want to keep those emailchannels open for GOM, instead of limiting it a little as protection????

If you are not going to do anything more.. i.e. a public statement about this attack, an explaination to the public.... ??

well.. if not.. i don't know what the readers of this post might do... after all.. they can all figure out my gf, and so her ex.. there wouldnt be aything i could do to stop them getting revenge ideas....

(rectificated 22-02 16:03 CET )

Maybe try posting in the hotline to the lindens forum to get a faster response.

Don't be immature. That's not the adult way of doing things. You make it easy for Linden Lab to look away by acting in a similar manner to your attacker.

If you want results, please consult your scoial network for the name of an attorney who can advise on how to best obtain a remedy for this situation. Rambling incoherently about vengeance is not only ineffective, it's also detrimental to your credibility. More than that, it becomes very hard to sue when you don't have clean hands.

If Linden Lab was an instrument in the tortious abuse of your E-Mail server, with results that have caused you financial damage, their inaction might open them to liability. If you act like a moron, though, it muddies the water significantly.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer. I am not licensed to practice law in my own or any other state. This forum posting is not a replacement for legal advice.

Yeah right .. like im gonna start an International.. Intercontinental in fact .. lawsuit against LL for 500 bucks...

This is something LL has to solve themselves... i think lots of people want to know if this is still possible.. being attacked like this.. and if LL is going to prevent it to protect them...

Thats what we want to know...

You've missed my point completely.

Regardless of your intent to file suit, Linden Lab must protect itself legally now and in the future. Its best bet is to prevent abuse of its service in the future by giving your attacker a hard flogging now. That is, until you go around discussing this in public. I have no idea why this is being discussed in public. If this is that troubling to you, you can file a suit. Obviously, it isn't that much of a financial problem or the venue would be irrelevant.

I very much doubt that Linden Lab is pleased with their E-Mail server being repurposed as a firehose with which to inflict damage to others. I'm certain they were more than willing to investigate the situation and take care of the idiot who decided that ruining his ex-girlfriend's life was a good idea. With that said, their investigation is not your business. Your feeble thrashings only serve to inconvenience this investigation and subconsciously lessen their interest in helping you.

I sympathize with your situation, but significantly less so as a result of the unprofessional way you're handling this. Does Linden Lab owe you a duty of protection? Maybe, I'd have to re-read the EULA. I have no idea why you would try to make this harder for them to fix by involving so many more people than necessary.

i am discussing this in public, because i want others opinion about this..

one of the lindens told me they are not able to prevent this because it would affect nice features like in-game GOM and other nice web-to-sl applications..

i think there is always a way to resolve this..
i.e. block all these web-tosl applications, but create exceptions on request, for GOM maybe..

i have gotten the feeling that LL thinks they solved it now i am not getting any more IM's and emails.. and they have closed the case....

I want them to think about fututre.. im still dating this gal.. whats gonna be mr J's next revenge....
or anybody elses?

I'm really not convinced that's the case. I think you posted this publicly because you wanted to open Linden policy and judgment to public scrutiny, as demonstrated by your (now edited) bold-face, +5 sized cry for Linden Lab to change things.

Let's put it like this. If you and your girlfriend have a fight and you share all of the details of the fight with all your friends and family and hers as well, how much harder does it become to resolve that fight?

Airing the dirty laundry isn't going to get you results.

i know what you mean pal... its a lil different though..

its not the disagreement my gf's ex and i got..

its the fact the lindens don't seem to investigate any further, and don't seem to take efford to prevent this in the past.. as stated in my las message...

i can handle the guy...

look at the polls results btw..

the max punishment i read on the police blotter for alst weekend is banning 14 days...

its up to LL ofcourse.. but the members think different of it..
so we ban the guy ourselves.... as most land still owned by players..

How did you lose 500 dollars? Not sure how somebody can actually cause a loss of RL money in game, unless you consider L$ RL money. Not saying you didn't, just curious how.

FYI, it is the post office's fault, and they know it. There is also a marked difference between a federal institution that has been in place for decades and physically serves hundreds of millions, and a two year old privately owned virtual world that serves a few thousand.

No, SL should have the tools in place to prevent griefing with their technology. They need to IMMEDIATELY shut down these actions. There is no excuse for having these emails pounded out of their servers for hours or days. What, they didn't know? Hooray let's get garbage credit cards, hit a coffee shop, fire up an alt, and email blitz the world from LL servers! Hey it'll be two days before you're caught, they'll ban the alt, you cancel the Capitol One credit card dujour and walk away (I have heard of people in game doing this little garbage credit card trick).

At a minimum you should be able to ban this guy from all your land with prejudice. That means to the moon, not just a few dozen meters over the ground. However, you would be the one with complaints filed then.

Something is broken here.

This is one reason we need an opt out for any 3rd party service making my SL account available for emails, ims, what ever, from outside of SL.

Without this opt out option, a perm-ban would not finish the job.
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