Snooping on a neighbor wrong?

Well, I was browsing on SL, and I happened to find a thing called the Snoopy Discrete Eavesdropper. I read it and got interested and well, I bought 5 ><.

Link

So, I was wondering, how annoyed would you be if all your conversations at your SL home were heard ^^? I decided to play with it and planted one in one of my neighbors homes(No anmes will be mentioned).

So is this wrong ?

* from Second Life standards, section 4... Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life

Whjo said I would post/share ^^? (On sl, mwahahah)

* from Second Life standards, section 4... Remotely monitoring conversations

Its hardly detectable anyways ,its the size of this period .

I would love to do it in Lisse Livingstons condos near my Cottonwood home ^^. Put one in each

IMO it's completely against the TOS. but when i reported this device it wasn't removed, so I guess LL decided it's ok.

My understanding is that they are NOT ok on someone else's land. I know of a player who was disciplined for just that a while back.

Well it certainly is rude as hell, I think we can agree on that.

What's "right" and what's "wrong" can be highly subjective, especially when it comes to virtuality. If it's against the TOS in any way, then yeah, DUR.(whether or not something is done about it)

Really, I stick with the "treat others as I want to be treated". Which includes not purposefully snooping around to eavesdrop on conversations.

Its the same as using the little alt thingy.

Anyways, I have created a better version of this I call the Ohu. It was done just by studying and a little practice. Ohu is afternoon in Korean and I think this suits the new device since it is the device that most shines in this area. These are a few reasons to buy the new Ohu when it comes out(Saturday, night at the latest):


1. You expect your lover may be having an affair.
   
2. You want to know who comes and when!
   
3. You want evidence for later usage.
   
4. You have angoraphobia, and extremely paranoid.
   
5. You like novelty items ^^
   

It will be posted on slexchange.com for 250. It is worth it though because of more storage space and a better sleeker, more appropriate design. Would love to hear more replies

What about on their own land, right next to yours? If they were online at the time, they could have heard you live. Is recording you for later playback when they aren't around any different?

Not trying to be argumentative, it is just that when there are no other dots around, people act differently. I would hate to have something taken out of context because I didn't know someone was listening.

It is wrong, rude, disrespectful, and explicitly against the rules.

I took it out, but did I mention I have a new Ohu in every one of my homes, usually 5 per, and in my land in blue some dude happened to be sexually harassing my stargate ? I had to take it out, and I was there at the time too, only in my car, but I didn't move it since he got their and he was pretty new. THIS IS WHY I MUST INSIST I SPREAD MY OHUS! But I see your point and now say to keep it on your own property as a disclaimer

You would still be knowingly recording on someone else's land, since the device description clearly states the ranges, which should fall under; "from Second Life standards, section 4... Remotely monitoring conversations... without consent are all prohibited in Second Life"

If a person doesn't trust someone so much you feel you need to start recording them, maybe it's you who isn't to be trusted or has trustworthiness issues. Or maybe you chose the wrong friend/lover/business partner. Folks who have a hard time trusting others are often untrustworthy themselves because they realize that; 'hey I do it, so why wouldn't they?' I could never trust someone again if I found out they were recording me without my permission, no matter how benevolent their intentions.

LMAO. Go put it in someones house who you know has alot of av sex LOL. Too funny.

Nor could I. And I would also ban anyone from my land that I knew possessed and/or used this type of spy crap.

You seem to clearly miss the point that it is fully against the terms of service, whether it is rude or not (which it is).

I am not trying to be rude right now, but what do you people say when you are alone? I say hover tv on stargate PX49, to operate things, cause you sound touchy

I dont know why people talk when nobody is there though...

Huh?

Its against TOS. I would be upset.
And ask Cristiano... I can see something the size of a period on the ground in sl...

Good. That was the response I was looking for. I was actually asking from the point of view of ME finding the device on my neighbors land and if I would have recourse. Just wanted to make sure that there was no misunderstanding that I might want to use such a thing.

I wonder if slexchange will remove this product.

Shooting people with a gun in the game is considered harrassment and violates the TOS, but the guns won't be removed from SL. Same as with this snooping device; it violates the terms of service if used improperly, but one must get caught using it. Until those people are caught, I suggest you all invest into a script scanner, and keep a close eye on your surroundings, especially if you're being intimate with a significant other, because people are now listening to every word you say.

Actually one doesn't have to be found using it.

If I find one on my land and report it - I'm pretty sure something will be done about it, and it's owner, pretty quickly.

So it has been in the past.

Siggy.

May people will use the mini-map to look for nearby green dots before having confidential conversations. Obviously, this would not show up as a green dot, and therefore they would think they were alone.

MUSHes have the PUPPET flag for objects, which will relay everything heard in its vicinity back to its owner (if online). Objects can also listen and log whatever they hear. HOWEVER - the command '@sweep' will give a list of any objects set to listen, or with the PUPPET flag on, so that the people in the room can easily check whether their conversation might be being listened to, or recorded.

Second Life currently has no such command, and it would be a very desireable addition. Imagine if you could click a SWEEP button and all Avatars and objects listening for Channel 0 within a 20m radius were listed on your screen:

Listening within 20m:
Name: Lisse Livingston Type: Avatar   Owner: Lisse Livingston       ONLINE
Name: Bingo Caller     Type: Object   Owner: Germaine LaFollette    ONLINE
Name: Ohu              Type: Object   Owner: Yuki Callahan          OFFLINE

The problem with this approach is that the vast majority of objects that are listening are not "remotely monitoring". Any object with an llListen() call in it would be suspect, when most are just waiting for commands from someone.

- Ace

If you were to run that on my land in Davenport, you'd find a half-dozen or more listeners -- even more, if I was on the land at the time. However, all of them will only respond to things I say.