Incest is SL?
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Surina Skallagrimson
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03-10-2005 02:43
From: Nyx Divine OK The original poster said this......if she was a grown woman, married w/ kids.....1,000 miles away and found a guy she liked and 'married' IN game...and THEN found out he was her father.......
INTENT is what we're talking about here.......SHE didn't INTEND to have virtual sex w/ her father, she didn't INTEND to to have an icestuous realationship.......
I assume she may be asking cuz it happened....who knows, I seriously doubt we're talking about a minor child here folks.
I can only assume if this really happened to a gal that it must have left her upset....shamed and confused.
I can only say this.......embrace the fact that the two of U found so much common ground that U were attracted to each other, that speaks volumes.......I for one had nothing in common w/ my father........
But yes once U realize that U ARE Father and Daughter (cuz the world IS such a small place) then things must change......but guilt shouldn't play too large a role.......U didn't INTEND for this to happen. Can I add at this point that while this is my post you are refering to I was not the orriginal poster in this thread, this did NOT happen to me, it was just a made up example within the general discussion. I also posted other different examples, the funnyest, (to my mind at least) being a guy falling in love with a beautiful female av, they spend all their time together doing the things that avs do in 'M' sims, then one day while on the phone to his dad/brother/son (delete as applicable) mentions this great 'game' he found on the net called SecondLife. His dad/brother/son (delete as above) says "Hey yeah, I've got an account in SecondLife, I have a girl av called <edited>" What would YOU do?
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Hiro Pendragon
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03-10-2005 03:31
From: Surina Skallagrimson I also posted other different examples, the funnyest, (to my mind at least) being a guy falling in love with a beautiful female av
What would YOU do?
Find out someone's RL name before taking something that far? Would you let yourself fall in love with someone in RL not knowing basic information about them?
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Surina Skallagrimson
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03-10-2005 03:47
From: Hiro Pendragon Find out someone's RL name before taking something that far?
Would you let yourself fall in love with someone in RL not knowing basic information about them? My point being that while there are a few female avs in SL that freely admit the human controling them is male, is it also generally accepted that there are a lot of female avs who do not admit the gender identity of their controling human, and so the possibility of my example is very real. And vice-versa of course with male avs controlled by females.
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Torley Linden
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03-10-2005 03:57
From: Cross Lament Now, a question that keeps me up at night... if I were to clone myself, and then have sex with my clone, is that incest... or is it masturbation?  I sometimes wonder about this as it applies to my honey, Jadey -- 'cuz there are other Torleys out there, so how sticky a situation would that be? 
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Catherine Omega
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03-10-2005 04:42
Sorry, but regardless of how distasteful we may find it, consenting adults must be permitted to do what they want in the privacy of their own home. "It's icky" is not a valid reason to prohibit it.
The only way any sexual activity should be considered wrong is if one or more of the parties involved are either non-consenting, or incapable of giving their consent. The original poster gave no indication that anyone involved was a minor, or were being forced to participate against their will. No one's being harmed here.
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Issarlk Chatnoir
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03-10-2005 05:00
Yay for hot virtual incest sexxOr ! From: Xtopherxaos Ixtab One wonders.... Ok...how about this: If you create a dead dog in SL, and have sex with it; Is it necrophilia or beastiality? I think it's both. But you can do better: create a dead puppy and then it's also pedophilia. And if you are a furry, I imagine you can pretend it's your non-anthro brother to add some incest to it.
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Seth Kanahoe
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03-10-2005 05:38
From: Ewan Took can we subdivide this thread into-
(a) People considering the question deeply and morally then giving really earnest and 'intelligent' replies?
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(b) People taking the piss and having a good laugh? (b) This can be said about nearly every thread on these forums. But you're right. (a) Before good birth control, incest was discouraged in most societies for three practical reasons. First, primitive genetic engineering: it was recognized that parents and children often created offspring with problems. This was a real problem when you consider that most people lived in villages for generations, which meant that they were all related anyway. The most incestuous people in society were the aristocracy, 5% of the population who refused to marry commoners, and had far more genetic deformities than everyone else. Second, diplomacy: giving away a child in marriage was a way of locking together business or political deals and alliances. Marriage was a contract between two fathers with the interests of the family in mind. Why mess around with the product that you can "sell" and possibly decrease it's value? Third, and more relevant now that there's good birth control and less marriage - as - paternal - trade: power. Age 13 or age 35, the parent has emotional power over the child. Dependency and understanding are part of the parent's power. The child has depended on the parent and that establishes their relationship, even after the child becomes an adult. The child understands the world through a parent's guidance, and that has implications for adult children, too. Adult or not, the child has less choice in the matter, which means it's an unequal relationship. The worst kind of unequal relationship, imo. Unequal power in a relationship is not good, incest involves extreme inequality in power, therefore incest is not good.
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Shadow Weaver
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03-10-2005 06:47
From: Seth Kanahoe (b) This can be said about nearly every thread on these forums. But you're right.
(a) Before good birth control, incest was discouraged in most societies for three practical reasons.
First, primitive genetic engineering: it was recognized that parents and children often created offspring with problems. This was a real problem when you consider that most people lived in villages for generations, which meant that they were all related anyway. The most incestuous people in society were the aristocracy, 5% of the population who refused to marry commoners, and had far more genetic deformities than everyone else.
Second, diplomacy: giving away a child in marriage was a way of locking together business or political deals and alliances. Marriage was a contract between two fathers with the interests of the family in mind. Why mess around with the product that you can "sell" and possibly decrease it's value?
Third, and more relevant now that there's good birth control and less marriage - as - paternal - trade: power. Age 13 or age 35, the parent has emotional power over the child. Dependency and understanding are part of the parent's power. The child has depended on the parent and that establishes their relationship, even after the child becomes an adult. The child understands the world through a parent's guidance, and that has implications for adult children, too. Adult or not, the child has less choice in the matter, which means it's an unequal relationship. The worst kind of unequal relationship, imo. Unequal power in a relationship is not good, incest involves extreme inequality in power, therefore incest is not good. Good Post Seth and to be honest a semi accurate reflection of the entire situation without being biased. Shadow
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Ernie Parks
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03-10-2005 06:53
WOW I cant beleive this lame attempt at being funny turned into a six page debate. YOU PEOPLE are the sick ones for discussing this in such detail, not ME for posting it. 
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Chip Midnight
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03-10-2005 07:42
From: Ernie Parks WOW I cant beleive this lame attempt at being funny turned into a six page debate. YOU PEOPLE are the sick ones for discussing this in such detail, not ME for posting it.  Ha! See that? It was all BS to begin with. Ernie, your lame attempt at humor turned into a sublime example of how much people enjoy being self righteous. Well done.
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Shadow Weaver
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03-10-2005 08:00
From: Chip Midnight Ha! See that? It was all BS to begin with. Ernie, your lame attempt at humor turned into a sublime example of how much people enjoy being self righteous. Well done. Awww C'mon Chip Seth had a good post it was historicaly accurate and embodied the evolution of Mature Societal morals as we see them today...whether it had relation to the intial thread or not is of no relevance I just thought it was kewl he knew the history..  Shadow
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Ewan Took
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03-10-2005 08:57
From: Issarlk Chatnoir
But you can do better: create a dead puppy and then it's also pedophilia. And if you are a furry, I imagine you can pretend it's your non-anthro brother to add some incest to it.
...but please remember folks, this is only allowed in MATURE sims. is this not 'off topic' by now?
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Lance LeFay
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03-10-2005 09:50
WHY did I click this topic?
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Cross Lament
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03-10-2005 13:25
From: Catherine Omega Sorry, but regardless of how distasteful we may find it, consenting adults must be permitted to do what they want in the privacy of their own home. "It's icky" is not a valid reason to prohibit it.
The only way any sexual activity should be considered wrong is if one or more of the parties involved are either non-consenting, or incapable of giving their consent. The original poster gave no indication that anyone involved was a minor, or were being forced to participate against their will. No one's being harmed here. Oh my god, a sane voice on the SL forums! Quick, someone ban Catherine before she does it again! 
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