My complaint about the Gorean Community

I think the whole thing that people fail to realize is that it is a consentual relationship which can be left at any time. If the master tries to keep you there or harasses you abuse report him and then mute him plain and simple. They arnt forcing anyone to stay and thats the whole thing. You can object lorelei and its not the gorean communities fault your friend got hurt it is that specific person's fault that hurt her or him. It just gets me pissy when people are intolerant to RP communities that arnt forced on them. Roleplay itself if you delve deeply enough into it is actually considered an online roleplay.

Im sorry for whatever happened to your friend. Its just alot of threads like this pertaining to different RP are popping up and I hate intolerant people who choose to rather just say it should all go away as opposed to understanding it let alone trying to.

Hi, Steven

Yes, you have that correct. There ARE male "silk" slaves mentioned in the books, mostly in passing and mostly with a hint of scorn. The majority of the male slaves talked about are ones who were captured and the storylines tell of their struggles to free themselves. Male slaves are not allowed the 'freedoms', if you will, that a female slave enjoys. They are often heavily chained, treated harshly, and worked hard. For instance, in the books, there are passages talking about how a slavegirl can wander fairly freely about the city she is in, spending time with friends, etc. You won't really see much of that in regards to male slaves.

When you think of fighting slaves, think of cock fights (lol...no double entendre intended!!). The more skilled a fighting slave is, the better he is treated. Each match is to the death so there is great incentive to be at the top! Popular and skilled slaves often are given women as rewards, treated decently, etc. Fail in a match means you are dead, for the most part. If it is not a match to the death, the slave may wish he was by the time his owner was done with him.

(nice disclaimer) The following is simply my opinion. (end nice disclaimer)

I do not have a lot of experience with non-gorean D/s circles but I know there are many more male submissives than male gorean slaves. They have a totally different mind set than the 'captured' male free man who is forced to be a slave. As such, many online male slaves simply try to behave as a female slave, which makes them seem, well, frankly...it makes them look like pansies. Even a male slave can behave with male traits. Gorean men don't really dress in skirts and such... In fact, in the books, a lot of male slaves are kept naked because they were considered dangerous and a naked male would be much more conspicious and make the general population more wary if they saw a naked man wandered around their city.

The gorean sims get a lot of people who have crossed over from non-gorean D/s circles. I see struggles in making the mind set switch, both in males and females, free and slave. I think male submissives have a harder time with this than female slaves. Some males DO have deep submissive tendencies. I'm not trying to discredit that at all. I'm just pointing out that in the books, a man who willingly gives up his freedom is to be scorned at worst, killed at best.

I hope this helps clarify your question and perhaps offer some insight!
wishing you well

No, Lina, once again you are wrong. I very much know it is consensual. So is a relationship where a woman gets the bloody hell beat out of her daily consensual. Being consensual doesn't make it good or healthy.




Again, not so plain and not so simple. If it were, everyone subjected to battering in a relationship would be gone the next day. In the real world, those relationships often go on for months or years. To say "just leave" ignores the complexity and vulnerability that got a person involved in such a relationship in the first place.



Excuse me, Lina, but do you have tolerant confused with approval? I can disapprove of something and still affirm its right to exist. I don't want to ban Gor but I sure wish steps were made to make it a better place. Why the hell is that so intolerant?



In what way, specifically, have I been intolerant?

Yes. Thank you very much.

Gor suffers from a lack of llamas. If Gor had llamas, everyone would like it.

thats only because of the llamas! der!

I get the feeling the llamas would be red silk restricted.


And that's terrifying.

GOR: Where men are men and llamas are afraid?

This llama begs permission to laugh

The real question:

Do Gorean Llamas spit? Or do they have to go against their nature and swallow?

Depends on their master no?

Those teeth.....owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww......

Well I guess they would be allowed to spit then. Another reason why llamas rule.

Quiet you or I'll crash another airplane on your head

im not stating you yourself are intolerant. The problem with this part of your statement "Again, not so plain and not so simple. If it were, everyone subjected to battering in a relationship would be gone the next day. In the real world, those relationships often go on for months or years. To say "just leave" ignores the complexity and vulnerability that got a person involved in such a relationship in the first place." is that this is online its quite simple to leave and most women getting involved in Gor are far from vulnerable all be it some are but that can be said with any relationship at all really.

Im not saying you yourself are intolerant and its ok to dissaprove but it crosses into intolerance when peopel say people should get banned or trying to tie it to worse things to try to meet those means. Sadly in SL alot of the wanna be kiddies that got involved in gor in other enviroments like socialtron or whatever i'm to tired to spell correctly so pardon that hehe. Alot of people left there because a bunch of posers joined the community and it happened again sadly . You always get people taking advantage of a community for their own sick desires sadly and thats normally what you end up hearing about =/.

It could be a bit friendlier but you gotta remember they are trying to base this heavily off the books about Gor.

OK, I get what's going on here.

I post something.

You post something in reply.

I reply to your reply, thinking your reply addresses what I said.

As you just said, your reply does not address me, but other people.

There's the disconnect. I'm getting off the merry-go-round.

I think the problem is that i throw in stuff directed to you at the start and kind of go off onto things in general and it gets squashed in there lol. Im posting responses to more then just yours i supposed it doesnt help when i quote you though =/

This thread is such a lovely thing, even though I didn't read the OP's post very much because it made my eyes hurt.

Ah the joy of people who take humor seriously.


Corvus, you should be whipped for this!

Actually, there were two movies made based on the Gor novels. Gor and Outlaw of Gor. Both of these should be considered crimes against humanity from what I've heard.

-Kiamat Dusk

I've seen the first Gor movie. I think it was supposed to be a comedy...at least I hope that's what the director had in mind.

Promise?

Did it have llamas?

No, just Italian actors, no llamas. Llamas have more self-respect.

Oscar contenders, they are not!!! lol