My complaint about the Gorean Community
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Steven Catron
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08-30-2006 05:27
From: Reitsuki Kojima Was this actually supposed to be a rebuttal?
If so, why does it sound an awful lot like "Well how do you know you wouldn't like crack if you haven't tried it?"? You know, i actually liked crack. I just gave it up after trying 2 times because trustworthy people and publications assured me it would be bad for my health. Now becoming a kajiru in a virtual world ( aka. RP ) does not seem that damaging and could be an interresting experience for a while. If i ever find time i might actually apply.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-30-2006 05:32
From: Steven Catron Now becoming a kajiru in a virtual world ( aka. RP ) does not seem that damaging There you and I part ways.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Faarin Blankes
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08-30-2006 05:33
Why are people so damn opinionated?
Let people do what they want to do you Nazis
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Lina Pussycat
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08-30-2006 05:39
From: Reitsuki Kojima Was this actually supposed to be a rebuttal?
If so, why does it sound an awful lot like "Well how do you know you wouldn't like crack if you haven't tried it?"? It is a rebuttle in the context of RP however. There is a vast difference between saying dont bash on RP until you try it. We all know crack is bad and can comment on there being no real plus side to it as its written medically the pitfalls of it and can actually be proven that all crack is bad. People Bashing gor without prior knowledge of it are ignorant basically. Even when involved for a short period to say an entire community as a whole is bad is also an ignorant statement. I took a look at the op's profile in world as well considering some of the group's he's involved in this just kind of makes the entire just of the post Hypocritcal.
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Steven Catron
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08-30-2006 05:40
From: Reitsuki Kojima There you and I part ways. We can agree to disagree then. 
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 05:41
From: Lina Pussycat It is a rebuttle in the context of RP however. There is a vast difference between saying dont bash on RP until you try it. We all know crack is bad and can comment on there being no real plus side to it as its written medically the pitfalls of it and can actually be proven that all crack is bad. People Bashing gor without prior knowledge of it are ignorant basically. Even when involved for a short period to say an entire community as a whole is bad is also an ignorant statement. I took a look at the op's profile in world as well considering some of the group's he's involved in this just kind of makes the entire just of the post Hypocritcal. THIS WHOLE THREAD WAS A JOKE PEOPLE!!!
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Lina Pussycat
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08-30-2006 05:43
From: Faarin Blankes Why are people so damn opinionated?
Let people do what they want to do you Nazis They have nothing better to do i dunno *shrugs*. Seems its the era of RP bashing in SL i have no idea. For half the stuff they say about Gorean's trying to be controlling they could learn a thing or two from their own statements really.
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Puck Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 06:03
From: Cannae Brentano heh. heh heh. heh heh heh.
You said boogey. heheheheh and then he said "cock."
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Steven Catron
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08-30-2006 06:05
From: Puck Goodliffe heheheheh and then he said "cock." Now you lost me. How do sanitary installations play into this?
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Listle Huskerdu
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08-30-2006 06:40
From: Reitsuki Kojima Was this actually supposed to be a rebuttal?
If so, why does it sound an awful lot like "Well how do you know you wouldn't like crack if you haven't tried it?"? actually it was just meant to be an amusing input, but if you want a rebuttal, feel free to contact me ingame and we can hash it out there. I am not one for being mean or rude, nor offending people. Nice to know that others can be just as nice. Please people lighten up. Gor is an RP it is fun, like furries, pixies, faeries and other non existand mystical creatures. Whats more when I get whipped in game - it doesnt actually hurt - I know big shocker 
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 06:42
From: Listle Huskerdu Whats more when I get whipped in game - it doesnt actually hurt - I know big shocker  that means they aren't doing it right!
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Listle Huskerdu
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08-30-2006 06:46
billybob you are welcome to come whip me anytime, although clear it with my Master first 
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 06:48
From: Listle Huskerdu billybob you are welcome to come whip me anytime, although clear it with my Master first   you may live to regret that! 
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Lorelei Patel
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08-30-2006 06:58
From: Lina Pussycat It is a rebuttle in the context of RP however. There is a vast difference between saying dont bash on RP until you try it. Lina, you can't seem to tolerate someone critiquing Gor even when they have been a part of it.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 07:07
From: Lorelei Patel Lina, you can't seem to tolerate someone critiquing Gor even when they have been a part of it. 
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Lorelei Patel
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08-30-2006 07:11
Care to clarify? I'm not sure if you mean I'm the head, the ass or both In any case, this is something that does matter to me, even if you see it as frivilous. I saw some alarming behavior and something that hurt a friend of mine very deeply. I'm now in a master's program (ah, irony) to become a counselor and I intend to work with people who are trying to get out of abusive relationships. So, yeah, it's important to me 
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Quimby Rothschild
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08-30-2006 07:13
I'll get right to the point. Gullible forum idjits are not only woefully merciless, but terribly intolerant. Instead of focusing on why gullible forum idjits float with the tide of combative Marxism, especially when driven by the gravitational pull of charlatanism, I would like to remind people that gullible forum idjits are like a giant octopus sprawling its slimy length over city, state, and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of self-created screen. Gullible forum idjits seize in their long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection. We will have to become much more vigilant to ensure that gullible forum idjits don't cause (or at least contribute to) a variety of social ills. In order to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals, we must maximize our individual potential for effectiveness and success in combatting them. And that's just the first step. Remember, gullible forum idjits argue that I am recalcitrant for wanting to break the neck of their policy of antagonism once and for all. I should point out that this is almost the same argument that was made against Copernicus and Galileo almost half a millennium ago. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to detect the subtext of this letter. But just in case it's too subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: Gullible forum idjits should work with us, not step in at the eleventh hour and hog all the glory. Given that gullible forum idjits' apologists mimic gullible forum idjits' behavior to the last jot and tittle, it stands to reason that it takes things out of context, twists them around, and then neglects to provide decent referencing so the reader can check up on it. Gullible forum idjits also ignore all of the evidence that doesn't support (or in many cases directly contradicts) their position.
Gullible forum idjits should be locked up. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to preserve the peace, I must explain to the population at large that gullible forum idjits like to brag about how the members of their camp are ideologically diverse. Perhaps that means that some of them prefer Stalin over Hitler. In any case, of all of gullible forum idjits' exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Censorship could benefit us." I myself don't know where they came up with this, but their statement is dead wrong. In general, gullible forum idjits don't understand politics or simply don't care. Sure, there are exceptions, but even when they aren't lying, gullible forum idjits' using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable them to trick academics into abandoning the principles of scientific inquiry. Now that this letter has come to an end, I unequivocally hope you walk away from it realizing that gullible forum idjits are so aberrant that they transcend the normal definition of that word into a whole new meaning that also encompasses "foolhardy" and "biggety".
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 07:13
From: Lorelei Patel Care to clarify? I'm not sure if you mean I'm the head, the ass or both In any case, this is something that does matter to me, even if you see it as frivilous. I saw some alarming behavior and something that hurt a friend of mine very deeply. I'm now in a master's program (ah, irony) to become a counselor and I intend to work with people who are trying to get out of abusive relationships. So, yeah, it's important to me  I object to the goreans personally, but its more a anti-slavery thing. However I was referring to the post you quoted, I couldn't find it in about 3 seconds of looking so I quoted you 
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 07:15
From: Quimby Rothschild I'll get right to the point. Gullible forum idjits are not only woefully merciless, but terribly intolerant. Instead of focusing on why gullible forum idjits float with the tide of combative Marxism, especially when driven by the gravitational pull of charlatanism, I would like to remind people that gullible forum idjits are like a giant octopus sprawling its slimy length over city, state, and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of self-created screen. Gullible forum idjits seize in their long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection. We will have to become much more vigilant to ensure that gullible forum idjits don't cause (or at least contribute to) a variety of social ills. In order to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals, we must maximize our individual potential for effectiveness and success in combatting them. And that's just the first step. Remember, gullible forum idjits argue that I am recalcitrant for wanting to break the neck of their policy of antagonism once and for all. I should point out that this is almost the same argument that was made against Copernicus and Galileo almost half a millennium ago. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to detect the subtext of this letter. But just in case it's too subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: Gullible forum idjits should work with us, not step in at the eleventh hour and hog all the glory. Given that gullible forum idjits' apologists mimic gullible forum idjits' behavior to the last jot and tittle, it stands to reason that it takes things out of context, twists them around, and then neglects to provide decent referencing so the reader can check up on it. Gullible forum idjits also ignore all of the evidence that doesn't support (or in many cases directly contradicts) their position.
Gullible forum idjits should be locked up. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to preserve the peace, I must explain to the population at large that gullible forum idjits like to brag about how the members of their camp are ideologically diverse. Perhaps that means that some of them prefer Stalin over Hitler. In any case, of all of gullible forum idjits' exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Censorship could benefit us." I myself don't know where they came up with this, but their statement is dead wrong. In general, gullible forum idjits don't understand politics or simply don't care. Sure, there are exceptions, but even when they aren't lying, gullible forum idjits' using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable them to trick academics into abandoning the principles of scientific inquiry. Now that this letter has come to an end, I unequivocally hope you walk away from it realizing that gullible forum idjits are so aberrant that they transcend the normal definition of that word into a whole new meaning that also encompasses "foolhardy" and "biggety". 
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If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party! From: Corvus Drake I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag.  Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe
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Quimby Rothschild
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08-30-2006 07:16
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Steven Catron
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08-30-2006 07:17
Coming to think of it. I would be at loss with kajiru-roleplaying.
Kajira was explained to me. Obey, address everyone in the right order and right way, show enough fire to not seem dull and begin to like it because of true nature and all.
But as a man this role does not work, and if i interpret normans fighting slaves right, i would be supposed to kill someone, fight for my freedom and overcome obstacles in a gorean setting.
This sounds pretty ardous, although it would with consequent rp give a little fluctuation to the population. Or did i misunderstand something? Any kajiru able to explain it?
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Corvus Drake
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08-30-2006 08:57
How petrified should I really be that my post was taken so seriously?
Does it make it worse that I knew it would be, by the "Forum Defenders of Gor"?
Finally, does this somehow shine a light on the overall intelligence of those who defend Gor in an actual, relevant thread, thus giving this thread a point it wasn't supposed to have?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 08:58
From: Corvus Drake How petrified should I really be that my post was taken so seriously?
Does it make it worse that I knew it would be, by the "Forum Defenders of Gor"?
Finally, does this somehow shine a light on the overall intelligence of those who defend Gor in an actual, relevant thread, thus giving this thread a point it wasn't supposed to have?  this thread was a joke?
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Corvus Drake
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08-30-2006 09:00
And props to the person who countered with the complaint about forum idjits 
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Steven Catron
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08-30-2006 09:15
From: Corvus Drake How petrified should I really be that my post was taken so seriously? We knew.  Let me thank you officially for reopening the discussion that has become too heated in the other thread with a lighter and more humorous tune due to your not extraordinary but also not unfunny joke. Still. I would like an answer to my philosophical poblem. If it is in the nature of women to be submissive and in the nature of men to be dominant, which seems to be a common presumption about the gorean setting and among the Disputers of Gor ( could this be the next booktitle? ) i must conclude that a male slave is in this position not due to a leaning towards it, but forced by circumstances and will true to his nature try to overthrow his slavers. My philosophical problem in entering such a roleplay would be the question why you should submit to someone, if your role demands to overthrow them anyway. You could as well cut the enslavement out and overthrow them to begin with.
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