What is with all the anti-Mac Labotomites?

Let me put it this way:

Before OSX, I thought the macintosh was the worst computer platform ever created. THE WORST, and I still think that OS9.2 and earlier is just utter CRAP. It's the AOL of operating systems.

After OSX, I think the mac is the best computer platform ever created.

Why the night and day difference?

It's based on Unix, and it lets you adjust just about everything, and it's much more solid than Windows, and a really nice thing about it is that its version of plug and play actually works the way plug and play is supposed to--virtually instantly and seamlessly, it uses more of the plug and play that started with the Amiga, which was another Unix based OS.

Jack: Don't judge the macintosh so harshly until you've actually used OSX--it is by far the most night and day difference between versions of an operating system that has ever happened in the computer industry. Absolute and total night and day difference.

You couldn't pay me to work with OS9.2 (or earlier)--or at least, you'd have to pay me a LOT of money. I can't stress enough how much of a pile of crap their ealier OS's were.

I think if they would have pushed their IIGs back in the day instead of letting it go by the wayside, I think it could have had the potential to be in the place that PC's are now--of course, they probably wouldn't have made something like OSX, and Steve Jobs probably would have been with another company.

The operating system called NexT was quite an interesting animal, and a lot of its code made its way into OSX.

What's awful about when you did it that way, with a paperclip, is that when you put in another disk (without restarting the computer), the operating system still thought you still had the first disk in, and if you tried to then load from the new disk, it would often crash the whole OS--full lockup.

Everything in their older OS's was about doing things the MAC way. It didn't matter if it made any sense or not, you just had to do it the way they demanded or you couldn't get anything done. The disk into the trashcan was just the tip of the iceberg. The only reason that still works to eject a disk in OSX is so people who were used to that antiquated way of doing things would still know what to do.

With Jobs on the job again all Mac users should just switch now and save the trouble of enduring another period of bad marketing and "too little too late" technology improvements

Seriously, once Apple lost the "Woz" the company was doomed

Steve Jobs, notorious for making horrendous decisions... but he's popular...

Hey, everyone has a chance of a second and third wind. There are people that have failed miserably in business who finally get it and start making decisions that make them a complete success.

Just like there are people who have made good business decisions their whole life who completely blow it in the end, which I'm wondering whether will happen to Microsoft with their latest incarnations like Vista and Office Live and making people pay monthly fees to use productitivy software.

Right now if I was a Mac user I would be concerned at how they are pushing i-pod this and i-pod that, while their Mac line turns into PC's... Sure they just had a fantastic quarter like second or third best earnings in their history or something, but it's only because of the i-pod...

Talk of i-pod movie rentals, i-tunes, and all other such digital media 'toys'... All the while their G5 isnt selling so hot.

The silence on the Apple computer front is deafening... It is really clear what Apple is pushing and it isn't their computers

I stand by the statement in the above post, if you depend on Apple for computing and not entertainment... look for alternatives now

I personally think eventually down the line they will drop out of making computer hardware altogether and focus on personal devices like the Ipod, and things we haven't even thought of yet, and also making good, solid operating systems.

A business cannot survive the way they have been doing things in the current competitive world of computers. The Amiga had a GREAT OS, and the Amiga was, in my opinion, the best computer for its time (and I was rooting for the Amiga even 2 years after Commodore went down the drain in hopes that the company that would buy it would revive it into a great machine again), but they made really poor business decisions, and I hope with all my heart that Apple doesn't start down that same path.

If an Ipod killer really does come out and Apple doesn't get ahead of the game again, their days may be numbered if they don't start paying attention to rest of the computer market. If the Ipod wouldn't have taken off, Apple may not have existed by now. The Ipod was a very smart business decision, but I think the days of the Ipod being the #1 portable music player is numbered.

I'm rooting for them as much as I can. Again, I rooted for the Amiga for 2 years after the collapse of Commodore. I think it's sad that the best things usually get stomped out. The DeLorian was a great car!

I think they will eventually be forced into releasing their OS for non-apple hardware. Hopefully they won't be going under by the time that happens.

I owned a Woz limeted edition iigs

I loved that thing... they dropped it

Apple is already neglecting it's Mac line in favor of the ipod / itunes love boat, and why wouldn't they i-pod is their cash cow!

However something comming zune (soon) may possibly sour that cash cow's milk. I doubt M$ will be an "i-pod killer" but it will put a large hurt on the i-pod line for sure.

Neglect on their computer development, slow improvement on the i-pod line... took them how long to get video for i-pod when cel phones and things like sony psp are already doing that better previously

I would like to see Apple stick around, but I think they are setting themselves up for a hard fall.

I think they added video to the i-pod recently because they fear the zune and what it could mean to their fairly uncontested niche

Yea, I'd have to agree the iPod kept Apple going. Considering Apple's method of becoming an "authorized" retailer for Apple, I really dont see many where I'm at. I can think of 2 stores within 70 miles of me.

So! Who's "Joe Average" gonna buy? Do you think they'd really make a trip like that?

I see their move to the Intel CPU's & BootCamp as a way of trying to keep their computers moving. Jobs use to boast that their PowerPC was better... and now? Apple lets you use Windows on your Mac now. Why? I thought it was superior and didnt need such a thing? Kinda funny how you say "We are the best!!!" but then switch or allow the competition to run on your machines.

Given the way Apple is working, wait a few years & you'll be able to build your own Mac, not just select from a few parts.

I always thought, if Apple wants to hit the market in a bigger way, try selling some Macs at a Walmart. God knows theres enough WalMarts to go around!!!

Ah, I wont say Windows is "Teh Shiznit" either. It has its share of problems. And VISTA will be a big let-down to many. I'll stick with XP Pro till I have no choice (either that or switch to Linux).

I am not anti-Mac at all. I am against Mac SNOBS.

That's easy. Look at the one you have - then buy the other one.

okay here i'll solve all the problems. I'm a PC guy, and i know i've had some splended arguments with some of the lovely Mac ladies here, so would one of you marry me so we can have linux babies?

Sarcasm aside I was shocked when I googled prior to making this post...

There are lots of games for the mac like the new release Tank-O-Box......

Tank-o-Box is a new electrifying shooter where you control a toy tank and battle your way through 50 game levels

Popular exciting title names like that.... or... Subway Scramble


..ok I lied about putting aside the sarcasm

Well, now that Ulrika/Uma/Oprah is getting a new G5 she needs to get the game "Postal 2" for the Mac.

I wanna see her get her "game on" (damn yugioh gx!!)

no matter how crazy people are I don't think anyone should be forced to have a Mac Lobotomy

No offense but this is just your perception, I can say the exact same things about windows users.

IMO there are way more threads started by pro-windows "mac sucks" kind of people and the arguments much more rabid, unreasonable and never-ending on that side of the debate.

Mac has such a tiny segment of the market, why do you guys feel obligated to argue against it all the time whenever someone says that it is a good system? If someone merely starts a thread about how macs are great, it doesn't take two seconds before all the Windows-ites are jumping all over it.

I mean you are posting here about how you "don't hate macs" but including links to "why Macs suck?"

That is seriously disingenuous.

Hey, I'm not one of them though. I'll defend mac to the end, I just won't defend Apple's poor business decisions. When I had an Amiga, I knew commodore was being stupid, and I defended them to the end. To me, Apple has had a poor business model for a long time, and they just haven't broken free of it yet, and if they don't, it's going to kill them just like it did Commodore.

My Commodore 64 monitor is still in use!

(makes an excellent video monitor still)

G5 was their last line, Apple's new line is the Mac Pro.

Is it the 1084 Monitor? Those were great. The original Amiga monitors were really good too--the 1084 used the rectangle-based screen grid and the original Amiga monitor used a circle-based screen grid. I never quite decided which I liked more--I think the 1084 was able to handle just a hair higher resolution but the Amiga screen looked more pleasurable to the eyes. The 1084 had a tendency for the white balance to become yellow (easy fix by taking off the back and udjusting the pots) and the Amiga's white balance had a tendency to become aqua.

You're just like pandastrong except without the funny part.

If that's code for four 64-bit Xeon cores, then yes. Yes it does.

and your just like kendra without the sense of humor but whos counting? Course since I don't think pandastrong is all that funny, I guess thats not an insult

I own and use both Macs and PCs.
I have had a Mac with Virtual PC.
I have had a PC with Mac Emulators as well.
I even had a PC with Linux running a Mac Emulator.
My Mac has run Linux Software when needed.
I remember when a command prompt was in DOS, and having to edit the autoexec.bat to load a mouse.
I remember Adobe Atmosphere before SL.

Ummmm....

I think it is funny to see techie nerds argue with artistic types (of which I am both) while I get my work done, and am home early playing SL on either my Mac or PC.
When my PC is trying to adapt to the latest SL bug, I go play on my MAC (or vice versa).

I have owned both Fords and Chevys (not sure if that has any bearing).

I close this meaningless post with these final words...
I hate computers ... lol