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Kendra Bancroft
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07-12-2006 07:50
From: Kevn Klein The wonderful part of it all is you can believe whatever you want, and so can I. Just wonderful!  If you really thought that, I would stop "attacking" you. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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07-12-2006 08:36
From: Kendra Bancroft If you really thought that, I would stop "attacking" you. Never, and I mean EVER, stop attacking me. That's my only pleasure in these forums.... well, other than being attacked by Ulrika darling. You two make my forum life fun. Have you noticed I tend to seek out threads that attract you? Muhhh! |
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Michael Seraph
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07-12-2006 09:05
From: Kevn Klein Leviticus 6
1 The LORD said to Moses: 2 "If anyone sins and is unfaithful to the LORD by deceiving his neighbor about something entrusted to him or left in his care or stolen, or if he cheats him, 3 or if he finds lost property and lies about it, or if he swears falsely, or if he commits any such sin that people may do- 4 when he thus sins and becomes guilty, he must return what he has stolen or taken by extortion, or what was entrusted to him, or the lost property he found, 5 or whatever it was he swore falsely about. He must make restitution in full, add a fifth of the value to it and give it all to the owner on the day he presents his guilt offering. 6 And as a penalty he must bring to the priest, that is, to the LORD, his guilt offering, a ram from the flock, one without defect and of the proper value. 7 In this way the priest will make atonement for him before the LORD, and he will be forgiven for any of these things he did that made him guilty."
In this passage we see it regards known sins. Yes it does. I was not correct. But it doesn't support the Christian view of Jesus' death either. The offender is required to make "restitution in full" and then as a penalty to give an additional 20% to the temple for a sacrifice. So find us a passage that supports the sacrifice of a human (Jesus, according to Christianity was both human and divine) to erase another person's sins without that person making any sort of restitution. Because jumping from making full restitution and a penalty of sacrificing an additional 20% of your wrongdoing to sacrificing a human being and getting off scott free isn't supported in this passage. In Biblical Judaism, you had to make amends to have your sin forgiven. In Christianity you just have to feel bad. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-12-2006 09:11
From: Michael Seraph Yes it does. I was not correct. But it doesn't support the Christian view of Jesus' death either. The offender is required to make "restitution in full" and then as a penalty to give an additional 20% to the temple for a sacrifice.
So find us a passage that supports the sacrifice of a human (Jesus, according to Christianity was both human and divine) to erase another person's sins without that person making any sort of restitution. Because jumping from making full restitution and a penalty of sacrificing an additional 20% of your wrongdoing to sacrificing a human being and getting off scott free isn't supported in this passage. In Biblical Judaism, you had to make amends to have your sin forgiven. In Christianity you just have to feel bad. like I said, it's a police ticket. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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07-12-2006 09:30
From: Michael Seraph ....
So find us a passage that supports the sacrifice of a human (Jesus, according to Christianity was both human and divine) to erase another person's sins without that person making any sort of restitution. ..... OK, I'll try to explain what I understand. The act of killing a lamb on the altar is an act of faith. One must be willing to take a step of faith to receive the blessing of forgiveness. Blood was one sacrifice, but non-blood sacrifice was acceptable as well. The point was it showed faith in God to do the sacrifice. Jesus healed a blind man by putting mud from his spit into the man's eyes. The man wasn't healed yet though. Jesus told him to go to a certain place to wash his eyes, and then he would be healed. The man's faith healed him by acting on the instructions. Jesus said "according to your faith be it done unto you" which means one must believe in order to receive. In the same way, by accepting the gift of salvation by accepting the ultimate sacrifice God made by sending the "Lamb of God" to die for those who receive it, God has offered to heal our "blindness" by accepting (washing our eyes in the pool) Christ's salvation. We show our faith by stating our acceptance of God's gift, His Son. I hope that clears up what my understanding of the issue is. |
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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07-13-2006 03:23
From: Reitsuki Kojima They did. Season 8. Loki is a rogue scientist who abducts people from earth for experiments... he's the real reason so many alien abduction accounts depict aliens that look like the Asgard. Crap, I musta missed that one.
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07-14-2006 00:17
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