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Israel continues to murder civilians. Conservatives overwhelmed with apathy

Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 17:27
maybe some countries haven't lived in fear for too long that, out of boredome they are focusing on stuffs that happend waay too far of their boundaries

could US forces, stay in usa please? we don't need you guys
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Champie Jack
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07-30-2006 17:40
From: Kyrah Abattoir
maybe some countries haven't lived in fear for too long that, out of boredome they are focusing on stuffs that happend waay too far of their boundaries

could US forces, stay in usa please? we don't need you guys


When you say "WE", do you mean France?
I want to be certain that I understand what you are saying.
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07-30-2006 17:41
From: Wrom Morrison
When a small nation next door became a democracy, Isreal just couldn't let that happen. Fueled by a policy of nationalism and racsim, they have become the same monster that tried to destroy them in Germany. Isreal now is a fascist nation that cares nothing about anyone else outside it's borders. Every arab and nation around them is a lower form of human being than them, with no rights.



I wholeheartedly agree

in other words

QFT
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Lorelei Patel
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07-30-2006 17:42
From: Wrom Morrison
The issue here is that Israel is a military nation and does not have a notion of civilians. Any Israeli is already a trained solider, thus for them, civilians deaths on the other side doesnt matter and death of soliders on their own side feel more like civilian deaths.

When a small nation next door became a democracy, Isreal just couldn't let that happen. Fueled by a policy of nationalism and racsim, they have become the same monster that tried to destroy them in Germany. Isreal now is a fascist nation that cares nothing about anyone else outside it's borders. Every arab and nation around them is a lower form of human being than them, with no rights.


You know, having your neighbors invade and try to kill you off even as you're being formed, start numerous wars with you, swear to push you into the sea and tell you that you have no right to exist, invade your borders to kill and kidnap your soldiers, blow up bombs on your busses... that does something to a people.

Quite a picture you paint in black and white, there. The color version I look at is much more complex, however.
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07-30-2006 17:44
From: Lorelei Patel
Quite a picture you paint in black and white, there. The color version I look at is much more complex, however.


the color version is thousands of years old
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Briana Dawson
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07-30-2006 17:45
From: Kyrah Abattoir
maybe some countries haven't lived in fear for too long that, out of boredome they are focusing on stuffs that happend waay too far of their boundaries

could US forces, stay in usa please? we don't need you guys


Kyrah I love you to pieces, but are you forgetting about WWII? Since when has France developed enough to be able to defend themselves without external help?

Last I recall, they made an aircraft carrier that was too short to launch planes from... :rolleyes:

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Lorelei Patel
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07-30-2006 17:45
From: Hooch Matador
the color version is thousands of years old


Indeed.

But to pretend it's all one-sided is rather silly.
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07-30-2006 17:51
From: Lorelei Patel
Indeed.

But to pretend it's all one-sided is rather silly.


as is pretending that every muslim is a terrorist

and attacking the infrastructure of a country with superpower supplied uranium tipped amunition when they have pea shooters to defend themselves with

just sayin'
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Lorelei Patel
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07-30-2006 17:53
From: Hooch Matador
as is pretending that every muslim is a terrorist

and attacking the infrastructure of a country with superpower supplied uranium tipped amunition when they have pea shooters to defend themselves with

just sayin'


Did I say any of that?

ETA: Asked because I was genuinely unsure if that comment was directed toward me or was a complaint against Israel. In any case, neither side is pure and neither side is all evil. That was my point to begin with. It's too complex to be boiled down to absolutes.
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07-30-2006 17:58
From: Lorelei Patel
Did I say any of that?

ETA: Asked because I was genuinely unsure if that comment was directed toward me or was a complaint against Israel. In any case, neither side is pure and neither side is all evil. That was my point to begin with. It's too complex to be boiled down to absolutes.


no you didnt say that that i am aware of

i just felt it was worth stating

but you are right, it is too complex especially with the hundreds of years of history

but, i do believe that Israel is acting like a bully in this situation, for lack of a better word
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 18:00
From: Lorelei Patel
You know, having your neighbors invade and try to kill you off even as you're being formed, start numerous wars with you, swear to push you into the sea and tell you that you have no right to exist, invade your borders to kill and kidnap your soldiers, blow up bombs on your busses... that does something to a people.

Quite a picture you paint in black and white, there. The color version I look at is much more complex, however.



Really? Cause you seem to ignore that Israel is doing that right now to Lebanon which is a fledgling Democracy.

Huh. The irony is overloading my circuits.
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07-30-2006 18:01
From: Hooch Matador
the color version is thousands of years old



DeMille is a genius with color.
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07-30-2006 18:02
From: Kendra Bancroft
Really? Cause you seem to ignore that Israel is doing that right now to Lebanon which is a fledgling Democracy.

Huh. The irony is overloading my circuits.



Hah! Your attempts to draw me into a flamewar have failed! It is weekend, and I am off duty. :)
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 18:06
From: Champie Jack
When you say "WE", do you mean France?
I want to be certain that I understand what you are saying.


we as the world
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07-30-2006 18:07
From: Kyrah Abattoir
we as the world



Champie doesn't like France. Bush told him not to.
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07-30-2006 18:08
Chestnuts roasting under a plutonium cloud, nuclear winter nipping at your toes..
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07-30-2006 18:09
From: Einsman Schlegel
Chestnuts roasting under a plutonium cloud, nuclear winter nipping at your toes..


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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 18:11
there are no democratic countries anyway.

btw Israel still depend of usa for armament?

if i remember they build kickass tanks.
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07-30-2006 18:15
From: Kyrah Abattoir
we as the world


as the spokesman for the world, i 100% agree
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07-30-2006 18:16
From: Kendra Bancroft
Champie doesn't like France. Bush told him not to.


you want freedom fries with that?

a yellow ribbon?

an american flag lapel pin?

a shitty country album?

jingo bells, jingo bell, jingo all the way
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Champie Jack
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07-30-2006 18:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
Champie doesn't like France. Bush told him not to.


I was a asking for clarification of the statement.
Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 18:51
From: Champie Jack
I was a asking for clarification of the statement.


Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arriv
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'tendard sanglant est lev
Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
Mugir ces froces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-30-2006 18:54
From: Kendra Bancroft
Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arriv
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'tendard sanglant est lev
Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
Mugir ces froces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!


ugh , not that one, far are the times of the revolt kendra
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Fmeh Tagore
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07-30-2006 19:01
A rough translation from google, with my comments in parenthesis:

Let us go children of the fatherland,
The day of glory is arriv (has arrived, I think)
Against us of tyranny
The bloody horizontal strut is lev (have no idea)
Hear in the campaigns,
Mugir these froces (?) soldiers?
They come until in our arms Egorger (?engorge?) our sons, our partners!
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Wrom Morrison
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07-30-2006 19:14
From: Kendra Bancroft
Allons enfants de la patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arriv
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'tendard sanglant est lev
Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
Mugir ces froces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!


A bunch of google translates later...

marriages of the children of the native country away, the day of the honour it is arriv against us from tyranny that the bloody horizontal prop is lev hears this frocessoldaten in the campaigns, Mugir? They come, up to into our arms our threads to schröpfen our business partners!
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