FAO: Gays and Lesbians!

Dear Lords of Limpwristedness, and Ladies of Lesbania.

Someone asked me a really interesting question last night, and I thought id actually ask it on here too.

If someone invented a 'cure' for gayness, as in if you popped this magic pill you would be straight... would you?

No im not trolling before you panic, im gay anyway but its an interesting question. Personally I wouldnt, mostly because im actually quite happy being a queen. Plus it seems WAY easier then being straight, beleive me the drama my friends go through who are engaged... unreal levels of despair.

Although there are plenty of gay people that SHOULD take the 'cure', most of them on television or currently cleaning rubbish from the streets.

Sam, I don't know you.
But if I were gay, and you were a woman.
I'd totally date your friend.

I like being different.

What a ridiculous question.

In order for the question to have any kind of validity it would be necessary to first assume that there is something inherently wrong with being gay/lesbian and that this "wrongness" would be “cured” by being straight.

Let's demonstrate just how absurd this question is by changing a few words:

FAO:Blacks and Hispanics!

If someone invented a 'cure' for blackness/hispanicness, as in if you popped this magic pill you would be white... would you?

No im not trolling before you panic, im a minority anyway but its an interesting question. Personally I wouldnt, mostly because im actually quite happy being a minority. Plus it seems WAY easier then being white, beleive me the drama my friends go through who are engaged... unreal levels of despair.

Stay as I am.. As I am not a pyromaniac, pedofil, killer or any dangeorus human.

/Tina

Cure being gay? I'm sorry, but that implies that it's a sickness and you know people will take offense to that. Would you cure being heterosexual, Caucasian or Hispanic?

Thankfully, I've already had chocolate today and I'm dancing around at my desk on a sugar high. I won't take personal offense to it.

The way my sexuality evolved in my early twenties to become gay was a blessing. I had two years of hell after finding myself attracted for the first time to a man at the age of 21. I was rather homophobic and was disgusted with myself. Infact, after this attraction began, it increased my homophobia for some time until the point where I could accept it. It changed my life for the better though, teaching me to be so much more understanding of other people, cultures and beliefs.

Anyway, it's part of who I am now and I personally believe it makes life so much easier. It's much easier to understand the same sex, more things in common, and when my Italian/Brazilian boyfriend moved in with me, my wardrobe expanded 4 to 5 times, mostly with designer Italian clothes that I can wear. Yay. (-:

Life is so much more fun and I can get away with doing things that were once very questionable.

I wouldn't change to being straight.

Hold on.

*hands you the crown of Drama Queen*

Your missing the entire point of the question, its a theoretical question not saying its an illness.

Seriously, get over yourself Lady Macbeth.

There, thats a good answer

I can't imagine changing my life and all the social customs I know just to asimilate.

I mean let's face it. I suck cock better than anyone I've ever met. It would be a crime for me to throw away such a god-given talent.

We need to do something about all these breeders!
They are everywhere!
Having kids
And making me pay taxes for a school I don't have kids to use!

--
Grumble
The straight, but Jailhouse gay guy.

you include pyromaniac like its a bad thing

With the exception that for me it happened in my late teens, this is almost word for word my story as well, and my answer.

I am not gay nor am I minority, but you know what? I wouldnt take any pills to change me. I am who I am and I like being me. and for the record I have helped my best friend come out - long long story but funny now.

If I was any of the following :
* black
* hispanic
* gay
* lesbian
* female
* kinky
* etc
AND there was a real pill I could take to change this,
AND this pill had no bad side effects,
THEN I would choose to take the pill.

Why?
Convenience.
Put simply : white, middle class straight males have the best chance of success in the western world.
This doesn't imply that they are morally better than those who are non-white, female, non-straight, etc. Hell, it doesn't really say anything moral at all.
It simply represents the statistical fact that success in life is more difficult when you belong to one of the above groups.

As a result, it is rational to take the aforementioned pill if you sincerely believe it would improve your life, and there are no bad side effects.

Of course, this is a completely hypothetical situation because any such pill would have terrible side effects :
* transsexuals go through years of therapy to come to terms with the fact they have changed sex and all it implies in their life. Remaining female is probably easier than going through the process of changing sex in our current society.
* if you are black, then the odds are your family is also black. Thus, changing your skin colour deliberately in order to get ahead is likely to get very, very bad reactions from your family, which may be so bad they outweigh the positive consequences of changing skin colour.
* homosexuals taking the pill would have to not only give up their sexuality (which for many forms a large part of their identity) and with it many of their friends, lovers, etc.... but would also have to deal with social fallout (family issues) as well as suggesting that being gay is somehow worse than being straight, which almost all sensible people agree is not true.


So... in conclusion :
* if the pill existed, and I belonged to one of the above groups, and the pill had no bad side effects, I would take the pill.
* my reason for taking the pill would be very simple ... I am gay, but I am not defined by being gay. I'd be prepared to become straight in order to have an easier life, because straights have easier lives than gay people. I would not be prepared to *act* straight when I wasn't - because that would make me unhappy. I would however be prepared to consider becoming straight (if it was possible, which is debatable, and easy/painless, which is even more debatable) - in order to better my life chances.
* that said, this is completely hypothetical, because such a pill cannot exist - as most of the 'bad effects' are social effects that are not within the control of any pill. Further, I might not take the pill simply to avoid allowing nutty conservatives to claim that I was doing it because I recognised that being gay/black/female/hispanic/etc was bad in some way.

In short : I'd consider taking the pill - but only because it's more convenient. Being gay/straight doesn't matter from a moral point of view, it's just that being gay is more difficult due to the prejudice of other people. So, from that point of view, given that being gay is just as good as being straight, but more difficult, it makes sense for homosexuals who don't have a preference between the two to take the pill if they're sure it won't have any bad side effects.


I'm basically saying that yes, I'd take the pill to become straight - but only as I have a lot to achieve in life, and being straight conferrs a slight advantage in life in that more people are willing to help you and work with you if you are straight.

Most people realise that there is no moral wrong in having one race, sex, sexuality or nationality instead of another. We've managed that much so far... why don't we complete the next step and make sure this is reflected in public policy?
If we could ensure that gay people were treated just as well as straight people, (and similarly, for blacks, women, hispanics, etc) then nobody would have a reason to take such a pill.

Side question: what does "FAO" stand for? I'm going to guess that it doesn't stand for FAO Schwartz?

Ever saw X-men 3? Yeah. I'm Storm. Or Magneto, but shhh.

Oh, and if I hadn't been laid last night, I would've taken offense at "Lords of Limpwristedness." But that's just me.

I don't think I'd take it.

I really don't want to add to the overpopulation problem. Besides, I'm not really sure I'm "completely" gay in the first place--I've never tried being with a woman.

For Attention Of

A clever double edged pun.

You're dating my boyfriend too?! It explains a lot!

Hope you didnt pay too much hun.

Thanks for the definition of FOA, I've never seen that one before. I kept picturing Tom Hanks in Big dancing on that keyboard.


When ever you post that picture it makes me think of gays in the military (mmmm, yummy). But then I think of the movie Yossi and Jagger (which makes me sad). And then I think of the recent conflict in Lebanon ...

Anyway, back on topic:
All this talk of taking pills to make everyone the same reminds me of the use of soma in Brave New World. I don't think I would take the pill, what a horribly bland world it would be.

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