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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-28-2006 13:01
From: Toni Bentham You would be the expert. I love how you respond to things I don't write, it's so *cute*! BTW, have you looked up basic socio-economic theory so you understand what socialism and communism are, and the differences between them, yet?
Calls you to ask I love how you respond to comments that have nothing to do with you. Now do you like fighting other people's fights for fun?
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 13:11
From: Billybob Goodliffe I love how you respond to comments that have nothing to do with you. Now do you like fighting other people's fights for fun? Seriously, are you high? What on earth are you blathering about? Did you not know that forum threads involve whomever wishes to post on them, and that like America, there's a general principle of freedom of speech and thought?? You'd think you've have noticed this general principle when everybody disagrees with you all the time. Here's a hint: in the future, if you don't have a rebuttal, just don't reply. It's really that easy. In short, I'll post on whatever I damn well please. This isn't Nazi Germany, and you aren't a Fuhrer. Heck, you aren't even a resmod. BTW, how's that socio-economic research going? Still chugging along?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-28-2006 13:20
From: Toni Bentham Seriously, are you high? What on earth are you blathering about? Did you not know that forum threads involve whomever wishes to post on them, and that like America, there's a general principle of freedom of speech and thought?? You'd think you've have noticed this general principle when everybody disagrees with you all the time. Here's a hint: in the future, if you don't have a rebuttal, just don't reply. It's really that easy. In short, I'll post on whatever I damn well please. This isn't Nazi Germany, and you aren't a Fuehrer. Heck, you aren't even a resmod. BTW, how's that socio-economic research going? Still chugging along? *yawn* your right you are free to post what you want, just as I have the right to ignore it. Hmm last I checked I wasn't the one people were disagreeing with, that would be you. From: Joannah Cramer USSR - Union of Soviet _Socialist_ Republics
"The Soviet Union and other countries ruled by Communist Parties are often described as 'Communist states' with 'state socialist' economic bases. This usage indicates that they proclaim that they have realized part of the socialist program by abolishing private control of the means of production and establishing state control over the economy; however, they do not declare themselves truly communist, as they have not established communal ownership of property"
... since the original point was about functionality of *socialism* (or lack thereof) and both USSR and Warsaw Pact countries *were* utilizing socialism mechanics ... bringing communism in this is just a red herring. and this beauty From: Vinny Demar wow! I bet you have the ability to keep an even keel, and diffuse RL debates.
Anyway, Communism is not entirely a red herring. Billy did cite their failures as failures of socialism.
Don't you think words are too imprecise to get that technical? It seems to me that citing communism can mean communism, just like citing socialism can mean socialism, buy words are not always that wooden. For example, the way I saw it, Billy intentionally sprinkled both terms into the conversation to illustrate the point that he was attacking neither communism nor socialism specifically, but rather <i> any </i> communal mentality to the left of his own personal bias. Which is standard operating procedure in english, afaik
...er, at least that's what I thought, I could be wrong oh and this one as well From: Vinny Demar Well, being the delicate wordsmith that you are, I'm sure you can appreciate this: I said ANOTHER word, not A NEWER word. Which is quite typical in such cases. The word socialism is in the process of being redefined as communist are calling themselves socialists, all the while, those communists/socialists argue vhemently that they are two different things in the vain hope that socialism will not be demagogued the same way communism has. (now don't argue with me, or you will prove my point )  Now who has alot of people disagreeing with them? I will post what I think and feel, if you dislike what I have to say. IGNORE ME! It ain't difficult.
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 15:41
From: Billybob Goodliffe *yawn* your right you are free to post what you want, just as I have the right to ignore it. Hmm last I checked I wasn't the one people were disagreeing with, that would be you.
Now who has alot of people disagreeing with them? Congratulations, you've proven there are a lot of morons on the forums. Geez, that was difficult. I didn't state an opinion. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Just like "Cats and dogs are different" isn't an opinion, "Communism and socialism are different" isn't, either. I stated fact. People who say it isn't so are wrong, and anyone with half a brain can prove them to be wrong. This really isn't a matter of disagreeing. Nobody disagreed with me; they replied with an incorrect statement. If you stated, on a perfectly clear day, "Boy, it's a clear day", and your friend responded, "No, it's really cloudy", you wouldn't think he was disagreeing with you. You'd wonder about his mental state. This is a matter of children misunderstanding words and applying them as labels for political purposes. From: someone I will post what I think and feel, if you dislike what I have to say. IGNORE ME! It ain't difficult. You're right, you're a big boy. Congratulations!
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08-28-2006 15:44
From: Toni Bentham Congratulations, you've proven there are a lot of morons on the forums. Geez, that was difficult.
I didn't state an opinion. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Just like "Cats and dogs are different" isn't an opinion, "Communism and socialism are different" isn't, either. I stated fact. People who say it isn't so are wrong, and anyone with half a brain can prove them to be wrong. This really isn't a matter of disagreeing. Nobody disagreed with me; they replied with an incorrect statement. If you stated, on a perfectly clear day, "Boy, it's a clear day", and your friend responded, "No, it's really cloudy", you wouldn't think he was disagreeing with you. You'd wonder about his mental state.
This is a matter of children misunderstanding words and applying them as labels for political purposes.
You're right, you're a big boy. Congratulations!  just as soon as you start reading comprehension
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08-28-2006 15:56
From: Toni Bentham Congratulations, you've proven there are a lot of morons on the forums. Geez, that was difficult.
I didn't state an opinion. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. Just like "Cats and dogs are different" isn't an opinion, "Communism and socialism are different" isn't, either. I stated fact. People who say it isn't so are wrong, and anyone with half a brain can prove them to be wrong. This really isn't a matter of disagreeing. Nobody disagreed with me; they replied with an incorrect statement. This thread was done when you grasped for the Nazi comparison, there's no need to embarass yourself further by revealing you don't even read half the stuff you comment on. Better luck next time.
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 16:07
From: Billybob Goodliffe  just as soon as you start reading comprehension Another response that bore no relationship to anything I wrote. Well done.
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08-28-2006 16:13
From: Toni Bentham Another response that bore no relationship to anything I wrote. Well done. HHMMM! *points to your last three posts*
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08-28-2006 16:16
From: Billybob Goodliffe HHMMM! *points to your last three posts* In what thread?
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08-28-2006 16:17
From: Toni Bentham In what thread? this one
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 16:19
From: Joannah Cramer This thread was done when you grasped for the Nazi comparison, there's no need to embarass yourself further by revealing you don't even read half the stuff you comment on.
Better luck next time. Wait, you really mean it was done when you didn't understand what I wrote, wasn't it? Aha! The Brilliant Mindreader strikes again! How did you know I didn't read it, Oh Great One? From: Billybob Goodliffe this one Hmmm......nope, try again.
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08-28-2006 16:26
From: Toni Bentham Aha! The Brilliant Mindreader strikes again! How did you know I didn't read it, Oh Great One? Because the quoted material supplied as example of people who disagreed with you wasn't --like you claimed-- people being morons for saying you are wrong about socialism and communism being different things. The quoted material was at least in part pointing out your brilliant contribution was entirely *irrelevant*. Something you'd have known, had you read it. QED.
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08-28-2006 16:29
From: Joannah Cramer Because the quoted material supplied as example of people who disagreed with you wasn't --like you claimed-- people being morons for saying you are wrong about socialism and communism being different things. The quoted material was at least in part pointing out your brilliant contribution was entirely *irrelevant*.
Something you'd have known, had you read it. QED. SighYes, they were entirely examples of that. Clearly you didn't read them. Go read it again and come back tomorrow. If we're writing in english, the meaning of english words is not irrelevant - unless you're a child using them as political labels for personal attacks rather than words. Then you're right, language is irrelevant.
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08-28-2006 16:41
From: Toni Bentham Sigh
Yes, they were entirely examples of that. Clearly you didn't read them. Go read it again and come back tomorrow. Digging at this rate you're maybe 1-2 pages away from reaching China. Part of quoted material there is my own post. I know what i wrote there. You "clearly" don't. For that matter you only show further you merely skipped the post in question, otherwise you'd already know what i just posted here.
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Kristian Ming
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08-31-2006 11:34
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08-31-2006 11:39
From: Kristian Ming I am a meat popsicle. Yay!!!
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