How should the US wage new wars?

And never forget, William Jefferson Clinton sent American troops (still there after how many years?) to invade a sovereign nation with a democratically elected president in order to preside over an Islamic takeover of historic Christian Serb lands. - Klintone, možeš da nam pušiš

Were France and Germany opposed to killing thousands of civilians then?

Yes, ethnic cleansing was accomplished, thanks to Clinton, Bin Laden, Chirac and Schroeder. There are no more Christian Serbs left in Kosovo. The campaign by Islamic Extremist Albanians (aka. shiptar) to purge Christians from Kosovo was a total success.

Maybe if Mr. Bush joined hands with and sent troops for an allied Arab-Palestinian-American invasion of Israel, he would become a popular hero in the eyes of the world leftist movement, just as Mr. Clinton has. The real estate signs in second life would no doubt be clamoring, four more years, four more years!

I personally can not wait until I see all hippie chicks wearing burkas.

My momma always told me, careful what you wish for.

And that's all I have to say about that.

LOL! That's what I've said to do all along. But then I'm old fashioned that way.

I would just like to note that it has been 7 pages and still Stankleberry has not replied to my reply (on page 3) to his comment on page 1...

I acknowledge that this is the offtopic forum, and that's okay, but I think it is taking it a bit of an extreme when the topic, and what is NOT the topic is very clearly laid out in the outset. If you are merely in this thread to respond to trolling, you are making it far more difficult for the conversation to proceed (of which I've counted maybe 5 to 6 posts total spread out over 10 pages and they might all fit one 1 page).

Neutron bombs and vienna sausage grenades.

I understand the basics of a neutron bomb, but I am utterly confounded about what a vienna sausage grenade is and how such is deployed.

Indeed, now put this hot crumpet between your cheeks and squeeze very very hard.

hehe what do I need to do? guy is doing a bang up job of being a tard

Yeah best we blow the crap outta them now - no point sitting around and letting them wait for it. Its gonna happen anyways so you should do it as efficiently as possible.

I especially like the way that democracy is currently being introduced - the joy of strategic bombing means they didn't have to rebuild torture centers - after all we can't blow their lil minds - we have to introduce freedom one step at a time.

So they stay - just so they feel at home

So tell me - after you ejaculate of O'Reilly's image on the TV, do you wipe the post cum with an American flag - or just weep a silent tear and hum America the Beautiful - enquiring minds want to know.

Eh some levity - heres some jokes for you.

Whats the diff between peacetime and wartime?

When a guy falls outta a helicopter or shoots his buddy in peacetime we call them 'tards'.
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How do you get George W Bush to successfully manage a small company?
Start him with a multinational conglomerate.
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Neoconservative movement (interesting both a joke AND a punchline -- que that rimshot)



Or for maximum fun -- go here and see what you can get the "Leader of the Free World" (funnily enough enough Australia is free and he doesn't lead that) to say to YOU!

Please for god sake lets Curious George make sense for ONCE!

I thought I was supposed to decide what weapons to use, not how they are going to be designed.

No, we didn't invade Iraq so we could kill the people that Saddam would have killed more efficiently. You only think that because you hate Republicans so deeply. Why are you so filled with hate? Is it because your people can't win elections anymore? Awww, don't cry.

We invaded to remove a major threat from the world. The Iraqi people are very happy to have the chance to give democracy a try. There was a 70% turnout in the December election. You would rather that they didn't have this opportunity. You wish Saddam Hussein was still in power, torturing and killing thousands and thousands of people. That's pretty pathetic, man. Why do you hate the Iraqis so much?

I bet you have some dumb way to dismiss the elections, too. Lefties hate elections and democracy unless their side wins. And it's obvious which side you're on when it comes to Iraq...

Ah nice, another lefty obsessed with Fox News. Grow up.

Yes, I am asking for elaboration? It's all fine and good to say 'pie' or 'carpet bombing' but it helps to know a little bit more.

The vienna sausage grenade operates on the same principle as the fragmentation grenade. The primary difference is that instead of hurling sharp metallic fragmetns it hurls chunks of ground beek pork and chicken at high velocity.

Grenades are too much work, though, how about vienna sausage cluster bombs?

Well we have a perception problem.

I see the exact reverse.

Stank jumps in on thread with loud rude accusatory remarks, and replies to every single post jumping up and down until he/she has the last word. More of a "baby wants his bottle" situation.

I would like to see future wars fougth with sarcasm and bitter humor, but I doubt we'll see that.

Most wars, when you dig into the reasons deep enough are fought for economic reasons. One side feels repressed and exploited and the other is trying to maintain its position. All three of the methods you listed need to be used at different stages of a conflict. The best strategy would be to look at the causes of war and try to prevent them from starting in the first place.

"If you want peace, work for justice."

Hahaha, I see, I am just supposed to ignore people when they reply to my posts? Oh, that's the only way you're able to win an argument. Now I understand.

Again, the only people that are concerned about getting the "last word" are the people that whine about how they think someone else really wants the last word. Whine whine whine.

Carpet bombing is a euphemism for old-school feminists hurling themselves out of airplanes.

PIE is a euphemism for psychological warfare via bombardment of paradoxical, hypothetical languages. It originally referred to Proto-Indo-European language, but now includes all manner of assault by babble.

Vienna sausage bombs operate as Zuzu suggested, although the part about "chunks of ground beek pork and chicken" is incorrect because it isn't made from any of those.

I largely agree with this, but I also acknowledge that people elected to power might go to war anyway. This is the reason I started the topic. It is why I am asking people what methods we should use to wage new wars. I'm all for minimizing loss of life as I see that's the way to go, but I know others may feel differently so I have attempted to leave it open. I'd also preferred to have people not waste oodles of thread space on historical rhetoric which gets us nowhere.

On that note, stunning people with chunks of (cooked from the explosion?) meat sounds like a delicious alternative to any kind of concussion grenade. Unless you're fighting vegans, then you'll just enrage them more

Calling vienna sausage "meat" seems strangely unwise (and unethical if advertising it as such).

I don't know what "historical rhetoric" is, but it's not possible to start a thread about war or politics without having people argue in it. That's how things work.
Arguing does get us somewhere, it just moves along very slowly and is difficult to see.

Are we running out of thread space or something?

Yanno, I bet if we played the Banana song over and over, countries would surrender to us left and right telling us to make it stop.

They would retaliate with the Ketchup song.

Historical rhetoric, in the context that I mention it, is this pointless arguement that I specifically asked not take place in this thread. I outlined a scenario and stated that the rightness or wrongness of the scenario IS irrelevant to the discussion of how said scenario might play out.

Nothing is pointless.

Sorry I didn't follow your special thread rules. Perhaps if you didn't write things in your original post that needed to be argued against, I wouldn't have argued against them.

That's why they invented the notdog bomb