New computer... Can u tell me if it's all compatible with SL
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KaRoBelZ McMahon
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11-24-2008 17:07
Hi all  I searched a bit on the forum... but don't really find my answer. I must buy another computer really soon, and... for sure.. I want it compatible with SL  Is it someone here that can tell me if all this composants are now compatible with SL. From: someone Processor Intel Core 2 Quad - Q6600 - 2.4 Ghz Memory 4 gig Graphic card Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512 Mo with accelarated 3D And... Windows Vista Home Premium I really appreciate to know.. knows problems... or.. bugs.. because I want a functionnal computer and not... a pain in the neck  )) Thank you very much for your answers... and... sorry for my poor english  KaRoBelZ
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Maylin Murakami
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11-24-2008 17:12
I'm interested in this, there are no problems with it per se but a geforce 8800 card might be faster in SL, oh and avoid ATI cards they can be very bad in SL.
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KaRoBelZ McMahon
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11-24-2008 17:26
From: Maylin Murakami but a geforce 8800 card might be faster in SL If I understand well.. and older video card could be... better in SL?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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11-24-2008 17:35
An older card would not necessarily be better........but, then again, a newer card might not be better either. I think the poster was mentioning the 8800 card because it has a track record of working very well with SL. The nVidia 9800 also has a good track record but would be quite a bit more expensive plus the performance increase would be minimal. The 9600 would most likely work okay......but it's not really that popular of a card so it has no track record for anyone to recommend it. I have a nVidia 8600GT and it works very well with SL and Vista Home premium with the exact same processor as the OP listed. It's an almost 2 year old card and can be purchased quite cheaply......but you'd have to search for it. And I'd never recommend buying a used or "refurbished" graphics card.
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Osgeld Barmy
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11-24-2008 17:39
the performance difference tween a 9800 and a 8800 should be pretty nominal
what you get with the 9800 is a thinner chip, thats in theory more refined, more efficient and therefore better in what it does
what you get in a 8800 is proven stability, thats been around for a little while, and has had time to make revisions to work out any bugs
really, if i were given the option id take the newer card, if someone said "heads you get the 9800 and tails you get the 8800" id be perfectly happy with either
and also, ill take a lot of refurbed items, just bought a re certified router, but gfx cards, no i would not buy a refurb gfx card, power supply or in most cases mainboards
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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11-24-2008 17:49
The OP mentioned a 9600GT and the first reply suggested 8800 might be better, thus pitting an older higher grade card against a newer lower grade card.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-24-2008 17:56
From: SuezanneC Baskerville The OP mentioned a 9600GT and the first reply suggested 8800 might be better, thus pitting an older higher grade card against a newer lower grade card. if you can get more performance for the same price.. great  . Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205 $114.99 and 112 shaders. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130360 $69.99 after mail in rebate - 64 shaders. so cheap  .. I'd go for the 8800 for sure.
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Briana Dawson
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11-24-2008 18:25
From: Maylin Murakami oh and avoid ATI cards they can be very bad in SL. I used to think this too, but it is an hold over from the days of old SL. More recently it seems that nVidia cards are having just as many if not more problems than ATI cards these days with SL. I bought a brand new Dell XPS with an ATI Radeon HD2650 and have nothing but but good things to say about it. But a quick search or perusal of the forums shows that recently (this year at least), nvidia for some has been trouble with SL.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-24-2008 18:38
From: Briana Dawson I used to think this too, but it is an hold over from the days of old SL. More recently it seems that nVidia cards are having just as many if not more problems than ATI cards these days with SL. I bought a brand new Dell XPS with an ATI Radeon HD2650 and have nothing but but good things to say about it. But a quick search or perusal of the forums shows that recently (this year at least), nvidia for some has been trouble with SL. A brand new XPS machine is shipping with a card thats 2 generations old? sheesh. It seems SLs hardware support has holes in both camps (ATI and NVIDIA), probably most of them are still with ATI. I have a current gen ATI HD4670 and its really bad in complex scenes in SL.
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Osgeld Barmy
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11-24-2008 18:49
ive never had trouble with either
but as far as the stats go here in this forum, for every 1 nvidia problem theres 3 ATI issues
if i were just a regular user, id lean towards the better odds, that has been and still is nvidia
oh and yes the op did mention a 9600, the 8800 would be faster, barley, i guess its all in the options and budgets
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Maylin Murakami
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11-24-2008 18:53
From: Osgeld Barmy ive never had trouble with either but as far as the stats go here in this forum, for every 1 nvidia problem theres 3 ATI issues if i were just a regular user, id lean towards the better odds, that has been and still is nvidia oh and yes the op did mention a 9600, the 8800 would be faster, barley, i guess its all in the options and budgets id always say never cripple a $1000 box for the sake of $50 xD. side; Dell is mutton dressed as lamb.. always will be I guess  .
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Briana Dawson
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11-24-2008 19:01
From: Maylin Murakami Dell is mutton dressed as lamb.. always will be I guess  . Ugh, you are one of those f'ing uber geeks who do things like put down peoples computers. I really dislike people who sit and hold judgment over the things others are able to or not able to afford, unlike themselves. People get what they can, when they can, how they can. Lamb, mutton, whatever - its a great freaking machine for me and i have no complaints.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-24-2008 19:16
From: Briana Dawson Ugh, you are one of those f'ing uber geeks who do things like put down peoples computers. I really dislike people who sit and hold judgment over the things others are able to or not able to afford, unlike themselves. People get what they can, when they can, how they can. Lamb, mutton, whatever - its a great freaking machine for me and i have no complaints. No, I don't like to insult people or make it personal, I do like to keep discussions/arguments focused on facts and logic, this is a public forum, not a private conversation  ... add: I just sold my HD4670 so I can get a 8800GT or similar card solely for the purpose of SL - I hope to find one that's nearly as quiet as the HD4670 now sitting outside my system.
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Dog Galicia
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11-25-2008 02:36
on the OP post i have recently acquired a new system windows xp intel (r) core TM 2 quad cpu Q6600 @ 2.40 ghz. with a 3gb ram. It has a nvidia 9500gt graphics card. Have been using fine now for 2 weeks in sl and not one crash or log-in problem since (he says fingers crossed). So I have no complaints with the nvidia 9000 series graphics cards.
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Ee Maculate
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11-25-2008 03:09
From: Maylin Murakami A brand new XPS machine is shipping with a card thats 2 generations old? sheesh. It seems SLs hardware support has holes in both camps (ATI and NVIDIA), probably most of them are still with ATI. I have a current gen ATI HD4670 and its really bad in complex scenes in SL. I was under the impression that if you're not looking for a graphics card that will last more than a couple of years then the 7900 is still one of the best Nvidia cards you can buy for your dollar for things like SL.... and that's now 2 (3?) generations old...
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Briana Dawson
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11-25-2008 05:16
From: Maylin Murakami No, I don't like to insult people or make it personal, I do like to keep discussions/arguments focused on facts and logic, this is a public forum, not a private conversation  ... Sure your opinion of my computer is based on fact and logic? And that makes it not personal or insulting? Right, you indirectly insulted me and then claim you do not like to do that. Whatever. You are just some <expletive> computer geek who goes around telling people that their brand new machine is crap. Lots of you net nerds seem to get off doing that, but it does not make it right. No one wants to be told that something they have that is important to them is crap. People get what they can afford and when you cannot afford the best and get told what you can afford was crap, it tends to piss a person off. So whatever. It is personal.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-25-2008 05:44
From: Ee Maculate I was under the impression that if you're not looking for a graphics card that will last more than a couple of years then the 7900 is still one of the best Nvidia cards you can buy for your dollar for things like SL.... and that's now 2 (3?) generations old... Maybe I will get a passively cooled 9400/9500 GT - old cards are no cheaper here - or least the difference is not worth it to me to not buy a current gen card, if it turns out SL has issues with even current gen NVIDIA cards, then I'll be forced into buying an old NVIDIA card.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-25-2008 05:52
From: Briana Dawson Sure your opinion of my computer is based on fact and logic? My opinion of Dell is based on facts and logic, I'm open to correction of course, the rest is not worth replying too as I've said before.
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Briana Dawson
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11-25-2008 06:16
From: Maylin Murakami My opinion of Dell is based on facts and logic, I'm open to correction of course, the rest is not worth replying too as I've said before. Mutton to Lamb? That is fact and logic? You are a P.O.S. It is what i think of all people who go around putting down the purchases of others. And that is based on about as much fact and logic as your Mutton & Lamb analogy. See ya. POS.
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Briana Dawson
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11-25-2008 06:17
And saying "I don't like to insult people", after you already did it, does not really help.
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Maylin Murakami
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11-25-2008 06:40
You become this abusive to a person because they express a negative opinion of a product? it says it all right there. The literal meaning of what I said is that a lot of the time Dell stuffs the cheapest parts (sometimes unstable,unreliable) imaginable into a shiny box and then overprices it. If this continues e.g. into other threads - I'll have to file an abuse report..
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Briana Dawson
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11-25-2008 07:00
From: Maylin Murakami You become this abusive to a person because they express a negative opinion of a product? it says it all right there. The literal meaning of what I said is that a lot of the time Dell stuffs the cheapest parts (sometimes unstable,unreliable) imaginable into a shiny box and then overprices it. If this continues e.g. into other threads - I'll have to file an abuse report.. File away. And the parts that came in my DELL, i chose out of WHAT I COULD AFFORD. I could not afford the higher end cards or the 512mb shiny card. I chose the cheapest card they had. And the price was great. Guess you cannot imagine that though huh? Anything someone gets from Dell is all crap and they had no choice in it. People get what they can afford - insulting what a person can afford is pretty messed up and elitist. But you do not seem to get that. I love how you can only fathom the logical the rational. And yes, I become this abusive (which is really rare) when i feel i have been personally slighted and made to feel less. See, i do not go around leveling negative opinions on the computers people purchase here. Lots of people post lots of different computer set ups - and some of them are down right bad - but I will be damned if i tell someone "that new computer you just bought is like a Pinto wrapped in a Benz body" - its rude, its arrogant, and it just is not nice to insult something like that here when everyone tries to get what they can, the best they can. But you do not seem to get that. So yea, my opinion of you stands.
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Ee Maculate
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11-25-2008 07:06
From: Maylin Murakami Y If this continues e.g. into other threads - I'll have to file an abuse report.. Please don't AR Briana.. she livens up so many dull threads in these forums  (not that this was one of those dull threads mind you....) 
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Maylin Murakami
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11-25-2008 07:23
Pointing out the pros and cons of various hw is useful - Nothing left for me to say except lets have this thread serve it's real purpose. Which is to find which hw works the best with SL.. If I spot a problem/potential issue I will point it out as the person may care to fix it or look into it - it may have collective interest, it's called being helpful. Oh and btw I love when people criticize my things/things I'm interested in, sometimes they refer me to a better product to buy either now or later/help me make an informed choice...  .
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Briana Dawson
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11-25-2008 07:33
From: Maylin Murakami Pointing out the pros and cons of various hw is useful - Nothing left for me to say except lets have this thread serve it's real purpose. Which is to find which hw works the best with SL.. If I spot a problem/potential issue I will point it out as the person may care to fix it or look into it - it may have collective interest, it's called being helpful. So says the robot.
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