pay for event listings?

Patrolling the calendar has proven not particularly effective or scalable. A Linden (or resident) police force to dish out punishments for abuse is a time sink when our time is probably better spent elsewhere developing Second Life. As Second Life continues to grow quickly, the calendar abuse will continue to grow requiring more policing etc.

As it stands now, most people who are holding events for fun and not profit are bypassing the calendar entirely and sending group IM's. I suppose the logic here might be if people are going to fill up the calendar with pseudo-events and ads anyways, we might as well create a new money sink. I like Travis' suggestion of charging by the half-hour or simply porting over the classifieds model which has proved successful.

Hire Eventpostpolice Linden The name is a bit long, but thats ok!

I prefer "Crapfilter Linden" ... it kinda rolls off the tongue easier.

Lewis

Patrolling the calendar has proven not particularly effective or scalable.

A Linden (or resident) police force to dish out punishments for abuse is a time sink when our time is probably better spent elsewhere developing Second Life. As Second Life continues to grow quickly, the calendar abuse will continue to grow requiring more policing etc.

Creating even more opportunities for unpaid volunteers to do work that LL should be doing?

Travis mentioned charging L$25 per half hour with a $L50 minimum to discourage the all day/every day "events". Others suggested charging for events would cause people to not have legitimate events.

Having just had a painful look through the listings again, I think "NOTALLCAPS Linden" and "Spellcheck Linden" are seriously required to work alongside Crapfilter Linden if we're ever going to make the Events Calendar useful again.

Lewis

Well, no one's really commented on anything I said, but I'll tie in w/ the "Crapfilter Linden" bit to say, if they provided a decent filter in the client we can all be our own crapfilter - and its much more likely less people would get all bent out of shape.

Please LL, before you muck around with yet another bad policy experiment, consider implementing the real fix to to problem that will make everyone happy. Let us all decide what we don't care to see for ourselves by giving us the proper toolset.

I agree totally Kaklick, I think perhaps if they set it up like the new products forum, clicking on it takes you to four or five other catagories. If people click on events, maybe a screen could pop up with 8 or so catagories that can be clicked on instead of a large listing of mixed events.

The other question rises of if theres gaming and a mall.. which is it?

And what prevents them from spammning multiple categories they way they do in the Classified?

Like I said, Linden Policing of the posts.

1.The best solution would be to add tools so people can exclude certain words.

The events calendar is one of the best things SL has going for it. I've said so since I joined, and I absolutely cannot fathom why anyone would want to restrict it so much. People want to be able to find lots of things to do, and at all hours. The more, the better.

2. The worst solution is to have residents policing the thing.

We've already seen that many residents want to define what is an event for everyone else, and I mean, they really, really, REALLY want to define it for everyone else.

Just because some residents have the idea that yard sales, Slingo, best T&A contests and the like aren't really events doesn't mean there aren't BUNCHES of people out there who want them and want to be able to find them.

Including me. Yard sales are one of the few fun, wholesome things there are for me to do in SL, and I think it is absolutely perverted that there is a movement afoot to get rid of them. I resent it. If somebody doesn't like yard sales, then just the heck don't GO to them - stop trying to make it hard for me to find them!

4. As for paying for events, I don't think it is a good idea to nickle and dime people to death, plus we already have classifieds. But at this point, I don't really have an opinion on it one way or the other.

Except I do think that making it where you have to pay more to be at the top of the list is a bad idea.

And I think charging people who are holding yard sales or grand openings more - or making them be the only ones who have to pay - would be unconscionably worse.

To sum up:

We already have categories.

I really don't think someone's pain and suffering from actually having to skim the words "yard sale" should trump my rights to find them, go to them, and have fun at them.

Make the search tools better. But don't expect that to stop the complaining, because making categories didn't.

I think the language already in place - that the event have a start and end point, and a host present - is the perfect definition of an event.

Within that, all events should be treated exactly the same.

God knows, I don't want some residents deciding what I should see as events and what I shouldn't. Please do not give them that power.

And I don't think that should be any of Linden business, either, as long as the guidelines already in place are followed. Don't try to social engineer me away from my yard sales, or some other person away from his T&A contests, or somebody else away from their Tringo.

coco

I If people click on events, maybe a screen could pop up with 8 or so catagories that can be clicked on instead of a large listing of mixed events. Do away with the current filters. Catagories could be such as;

Games (*ingo events and all others)
Clubs (all music and dance club events)
Malls/Stores
Yard Sales
Community Enrichment (Museums, Galleries, Build contests, show and tells, newb classes, etc)
Recreation (races, fishing events, boxing etc)
Casinos