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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-23-2006 21:47
Getting sick of this nonsense. I go to post a event for a new DJ and I cant because my morning Slingo and bingo crew USED UP ALL MY POSTS! Linden Lab has lost their f-ing minds! So now we have to cut the whole island up into 512M squares to post events for the whole day? Robin, Torely or any Linden show me where this was discussed at any time? Enough is enough. I have never been involved with a company that harassed their paying customers like this. This 'we do what makes LL comfortable' campaign has got to STOP.
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Boliver Oddfellow
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06-24-2006 08:18
Blady -that was put in there to stop spamming of the event list. its easy to work around, as I have done several events in singe locations that had for instance 6 acts and split the posting between 2 authorized people.For gods sakes stop bitching and bemoaning what you THINK LL is doing to hurt poor lil ole you,and use that first class mind to think of how the system works and the right way to use it. If I can post a 12 act event at Dublin and a 7 act event at Menorca with no hassles SO CAN YOU
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Doubledown Tandino
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Join date: 9 Mar 2006
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06-24-2006 10:29
Didja notice LL couldnt even post the SL Birthday bash in the events because there were simply too many things going on? hahahaha
They can't even post their own events hahahaha
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Delzo Delacroix
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Join date: 2 May 2006
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06-24-2006 10:56
I've always thought that if you run Slingo all day, that is really just one event, not 24. I'm glad this rule is in place.

This is how the events list used to look...

Slingo 1pm
Slingo 2pm
Slingo 3pm
Slingo 4pm
Slingo 5pm
etc...
etc...

...and that would be the listings for only one location's Slingo. Many run Slingo and spam the boards. It got the the point where I just stopped searching the event board UNLESS I was looking for a Slingo game.

Looking at the events listings today, I can already see the difference. For the first time, I was able to find an event that I'm going to attend...and it's not Slingo :)
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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-24-2006 14:27
From: Boliver Oddfellow
Blady -that was put in there to stop spamming of the event list. its easy to work around, as I have done several events in singe locations that had for instance 6 acts and split the posting between 2 authorized people.For gods sakes stop bitching and bemoaning what you THINK LL is doing to hurt poor lil ole you,and use that first class mind to think of how the system works and the right way to use it. If I can post a 12 act event at Dublin and a 7 act event at Menorca with no hassles SO CAN YOU

The goal of Second Life now is to use your mind to out think Linden Labs? What fun. I have no idea what you are talking about two authorized people and 6 acts. All the Djs try to post and so do I and we get the same message (5 events on this parcel already). There is a way to introduce changes to paying customers and LL continues not to concern themselves with STANDARD CUSTOMER SERVICE PROTOCOL. You may want to adjust and jump through hoops every time some guy in a cubicle in San Francisco gets a idea - but I am not comfortable with it. And yes, its all by lil ole me since its lil ole me's money.
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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-24-2006 14:28
From: Doubledown Tandino
Didja notice LL couldnt even post the SL Birthday bash in the events because there were simply too many things going on? hahahaha
They can't even post their own events hahahaha

Now we will see them adjust this nonsense - since they screwed themselves.
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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-24-2006 14:34
From: Delzo Delacroix
I've always thought that if you run Slingo all day, that is really just one event, not 24. I'm glad this rule is in place.

This is how the events list used to look...

Slingo 1pm
Slingo 2pm
Slingo 3pm
Slingo 4pm
Slingo 5pm
etc...
etc...

...and that would be the listings for only one location's Slingo. Many run Slingo and spam the boards. It got the the point where I just stopped searching the event board UNLESS I was looking for a Slingo game.

Looking at the events listings today, I can already see the difference. For the first time, I was able to find an event that I'm going to attend...and it's not Slingo :)

That's great for you. I guess Slingo is fun - I never played it. I have up to 10 DJs and Podcast events within a 24 hour period on one parcel. Everyone in the group posts their own event.It seems to be if one person messes up 5 times we are all locked out of posting on that parcel for 24 hours. If LL was really trying to develop a working solution for the community and those that host events they would have had a OPEN DISCUSSION to develop a workable, acceptable solotion.
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Merlyn Bailly
owner, AVALON GALLERIA
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
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06-24-2006 20:04
From: bladyblue Bommerang
Getting sick of this nonsense. I go to post a event for a new DJ and I cant because my morning Slingo and bingo crew USED UP ALL MY POSTS! Linden Lab has lost their f-ing minds! So now we have to cut the whole island up into 512M squares to post events for the whole day? Robin, Torely or any Linden show me where this was discussed at any time? Enough is enough. I have never been involved with a company that harassed their paying customers like this. This 'we do what makes LL comfortable' campaign has got to STOP.


Since casinos and clubs are the primary spammers of the events calendar listings (along with the secondhand retailers/aka pseudo-yard sale frauds), I can't say I'm really hurting for you, spammer.
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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-24-2006 22:22
From: Merlyn Bailly
Since casinos and clubs are the primary spammers of the events calendar listings (along with the secondhand retailers/aka pseudo-yard sale frauds), I can't say I'm really hurting for you, spammer.

I'm not looking for sympathy from a Merlyn Bailly - I am stating how I feel about a service company who no longer feels it has to serve many of it's paying customers. I see no need to protest and ask you to prove your claim that I spam the events calender. Your just another corporate fanboi spouting the same cheerleader nonsense and not really working with your community members to influence change that is agreeable to everyone. Go show your lack of support for the community in all of the free regsitration threads or can you stand the heat?
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Doubledown Tandino
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06-24-2006 23:52
Thank you bladyblue! Once again on the same page as me.

When a club has an event! ITS A FRIGGIN EVENT! It's not SPAM!
SLer should realize they are lucky that people are still investing time, energy, and money into creating events.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-27-2006 17:14
Your argument would have more weight if you hadn't outright ripped someone off with your build..(dressed 2 kill) on VooDoo Island.

proof here
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Doubledown Tandino
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06-27-2006 18:34
Jonas, thank you for pointing that out to me. So sorry to hear that.

Bladyblue, I have always found your arguments about event-related issues right on. Do you personally know anything about Voodoo stealing builds?
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bladyblue Bommerang
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06-27-2006 19:52
From: Jonas Pierterson
Your argument would have more weight if you hadn't outright ripped someone off with your build..(dressed 2 kill) on VooDoo Island.

proof here

Troll much?
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Merlyn Bailly
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06-27-2006 21:32
From: Doubledown Tandino
Thank you bladyblue! Once again on the same page as me.

When a club has an event! ITS A FRIGGIN EVENT! It's not SPAM!
SLer should realize they are lucky that people are still investing time, energy, and money into creating events.


A casino running a game is not an event -- it's daily business-as-usual. Therefore, splitting up the time and assigning a new "host" just to prove it's a separate event is b*llsh*t. You're still spammers.
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Doubledown Tandino
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06-27-2006 22:11
From: Merlyn Bailly
Since casinos and clubs are the primary spammers of the events calendar listings ...


.... you said it.... I just called you on it.

I am not talking about casinos... I am talking about clubs.... when a club has a different party / host / dj / performer... its not business as usual, it's a different event with different people at a different time on the same parcel of land.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-28-2006 05:42
From: Merlyn Bailly
A casino running a game is not an event -- it's daily business-as-usual. Therefore, splitting up the time and assigning a new "host" just to prove it's a separate event is b*llsh*t. You're still spammers.


No, its an event. By the description of what an acceptable 'event' is. They aren't spammers, you are full of that nice warm stuff that comes from a bull's rear.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-28-2006 05:43
From: bladyblue Bommerang
Troll much?


No trolling here. But -you- do STEAL much.
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Merlyn Bailly
owner, AVALON GALLERIA
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06-29-2006 14:46
From: Doubledown Tandino
Jonas, thank you for pointing that out to me. So sorry to hear that.

Bladyblue, I have always found your arguments about event-related issues right on. Do you personally know anything about Voodoo stealing builds?


Bladyblue was the thief, son. She ripped off her entire build from another merchant. Now she's whining because she can't spam the events calendar to death. ROFLMAO!!!
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Dennis Bertone
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Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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06-29-2006 16:38
From: Merlyn Bailly
Bladyblue was the thief, son. She ripped off her entire build from another merchant. Now she's whining because she can't spam the events calendar to death. ROFLMAO!!!


This thread has nothing to do with stealing, it's a real issue for people that have more than 5 legit events per day. Keep it on topic and quit trolling.

Until Lindens realize it, sub 4M parcels out right next to your landing spot or telehub to cover the amount of events that you need. For 10 events per day, all you need is one little subbed out lot and your good. I'm having to do this for Club Kohana which runs up to 8 events per day.
Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 19:12
From: Jonas Pierterson
No, its an event. By the description of what an acceptable 'event' is. They aren't spammers, you are full of that nice warm stuff that comes from a bull's rear.


You obviously weren't paying attention to the POLICE BLOTTER when a bunch of the casino goons were suspended for posting such things -- the PB SPECIFICALLY STATED that such things WERE NOT EVENTS, BUT WERE BUSINESS-AS-USUAL FOR A CASINO.

Considering where your head is, Jonas, I'd say you have a closer acquaintance with said substance than I do.
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Lina Pussycat
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Join date: 19 Jun 2005
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06-30-2006 03:29
Listen Up, Games count as an event look at the event categories sometimes folks Games/Contests. What LL needs to do is if its a recurring event that has a basis on a daily thing allow that event to be reccuring on a weekly basis as opposed to doing it daily. Say i have a DJ on at the same time every day for 5 days straight allow me to set event reccurding 5 days. Limiting the posting doesnt help really and to be honest its hurtful to clubs. Republik doesnt have a problem because we run 4 a day at the moment but if we ran more then 5 It'd be a big hassle. As we dont really run "pay events" and rather do it soley for entertainment limiting what we can post is a big hassle.

Pardon but isnt the point of the event posting to find out what is going on in world???? I can see a yardsale being a misplacement but why not pull those events off of the event listing? Slingo and tringo are really legit events and if they host changes without it being recurring then frankly we need to be able to post more. They did it to limit spam but in the process just made it so its harder for the people doing legit stuff to be able to function kind of a situation where you have to be careful what type of movements your really making.

Kind of a situation that wont turn out good either direction you go but i dont really think spamming the list was an issue if you were actually looking at the event posting for a certain type of event. But such is the problem with people cant have things one way or another and a happy medium is usually impossible without both the sides bending heavily.
I just find it funny that the events listing has games/contests as a "category" but then tries to state that they arnt real events? I mean its a multiplayer setup - event. I can see if they were spamming for single player versions of tringo or slingo but come on lol.

I think what was already on the events listing was acceptable just some people didnt like not having their events as seen as they wanted. Events for anywhere that run events on a daily basis could be considered business as usual so thats not really a fair assumption by anyone including LL because just because it is business as usual doesnt mean its not a community based event that anyone can partake in.
Ariane Brodie
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Join date: 22 Apr 2004
Posts: 28
06-30-2006 05:28
Let me speak from a consumers perspective. I like to go to the SL clubs. I like to know whats going on at the clubs before I get there, as I like to dress appropriately and it takes forever and a day to change clothes on a laggy sim.

So I do this thing called SEARCHING rather than rely upon the useless whats happening now screen.

Because I search, I dont get the spam. But now with the event limits, I get incomplete results.

Meanwhile, event spammers have already figured out how to get past the limits.
From: Dennis Bertone

Until Lindens realize it, sub 4M parcels out right next to your landing spot or telehub to cover the amount of events that you need. For 10 events per day, all you need is one little subbed out lot and your good. I'm having to do this for Club Kohana which runs up to 8 events per day.

See!

So what do we get? The event spammers continue to spam, and the legitimate clubs are inconvenienced, and the consumers are getting less services than they had before.

Result: This 5 event limit is totally worthless and ultimately harmful to SL's customers.

Take a lesson from Google: The more searchable events that get posted, the better off the consumers are at finding what they want.
Dennis Bertone
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Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 164
06-30-2006 15:20
From: Ariane Brodie
Let me speak from a consumers perspective. I like to go to the SL clubs. I like to know whats going on at the clubs before I get there, as I like to dress appropriately and it takes forever and a day to change clothes on a laggy sim.

So I do this thing called SEARCHING rather than rely upon the useless whats happening now screen.

Because I search, I dont get the spam. But now with the event limits, I get incomplete results.

Meanwhile, event spammers have already figured out how to get past the limits.
See!

So what do we get? The event spammers continue to spam, and the legitimate clubs are inconvenienced, and the consumers are getting less services than they had before.

Result: This 5 event limit is totally worthless and ultimately harmful to SL's customers.

Take a lesson from Google: The more searchable events that get posted, the better off the consumers are at finding what they want.




LOL... are you nutz? It's a legitimate club, look it up.. Not a casino..with REAL events running all day long.

You said "Result: This 5 event limit is totally worthless and ultimately harmful to SL's customers."

Yet you say I'm a spammer cause I sub one 4m parcel out to cover 3 more events in a day to avoid the harm your speaking of? LOL... Move along..
Ariane Brodie
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Join date: 22 Apr 2004
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06-30-2006 20:41
From: Dennis Bertone
LOL... are you nutz? It's a legitimate club, look it up.. Not a casino..with REAL events running all day long.

You said "Result: This 5 event limit is totally worthless and ultimately harmful to SL's customers."

Yet you say I'm a spammer cause I sub one 4m parcel out to cover 3 more events in a day to avoid the harm your speaking of? LOL... Move along..

I did not say you were a spammer. I'm saying that you found a way to schedule more than the alloted events. If you can do that, then anyone, including spammers can do that too, even though it is inconvenient.

I'm in your camp. I'm saying event spamming is not the problem that everyone thinks it is, and this "fix" is not a fix at all if it does not really do anything except inconvenience legitimate event holders and event searchers?

It's just yet another idiotic thing LL has been doing lately.
cinda Hoodoo
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Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
07-02-2006 21:42
Ya know what, i love to go thru the events and see all the diversity and imagination used to list, i think SL needs to keep their paws off it, and let the SL public be as diverse as it wants to be, as its advertised on the front of the SL homepage. All this quasi self proclaimed police action on their part is just nothing less busy body monitering. They need to get that staff on the greifers and underagers in the place if they feel the need to be useful..that would keep them busy for years.
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