classifieds shifting to dynamic pricing

i am very concerned about this. I can easily afford to pay to be on the top in fact if implemented i would do just that. however new people and we were all new at some time would not be able to afford to be seen on top.
i urge you to reformulate something that makes it fare for all to get a chance to be on the top of the list

one sure fire way to disenfranchise new residents and potential business people is to make yet another thing that only the rich could afford.

Why not create an API so that existing services such as www.metaadverse.com can worry about managing these sorts of issues?

I like how MA works - it's based on free market pricing, and I think it can work for classifieds if you would just let them

I think SL would be better if the tools and hooks we had into it were more powerful, letting the residents figure out how best to take advantage of them.

I'm sorry but I just don't like this idea no matter how you slice it. I think by time/date of posting would be better by far. I think there are a lot of good content creators out there who would be pretty discouraged towards advertising through a system like this. Just because someone is willing to shell out a large amount doesn't necessarily mean that they have compelling content, there may even be a strong corollation but not enough IMO to implement this. All it means is they are willing to shell out enough cash to push themselves to the top of the list.

Well, you can only list your place in Find if you own land or if someone has parceled it to you, so I figure the same rule could follow, right?

It could. But then you'd be dicking small business owners significantly more than any free market pricing system. In order to advertise in classifieds, you'd have to pay for some land, too? And premium?

Does Linden have a little mad scientist coming up with these wacko make more money schemes.
Why cant they just repair, fix, improve the conventional weapons Why must they try and nuke everything,

I read this stuff and just cringe to think what more self inflicted playability damage there greedy little minds can come up with. I have started playing “ Project Entropia” Too fill the days on end when Second Life is totally unplayable.
Who cares about a new fangled list if the damn thing will never load or some freak thing like crashes you each time you try and use it or need to turn off 10 more feature settings. Then the lame azz accuses roll in for a month or longer. My 400.00 a month gamming money is up for grabs..... SL is no longer a shoe in.

Not necessarily; many people rent out parcels of land without being premium members. I am not saying in-world classifieds should be free, but I don't see the need for bidding for spots when simply adding by date and time could show you the most current items.

Most people who rent in mall spaces don't get much advertising anyway; other than the forums or something like that (if they do any advertising at all).

Jeezus love a duck Francis, put this in the classifieds.

This is an excellent idea, let people burn their Lindens in Ads, that's a money sink.

About people complaining that little guys won't be able to compete... well, do you compete in the real world without some money to start? Of course not.
I can see the little guys going to the big guys for funds, investment and all ; just like IRL. Why would it be a problem on SL and not IRL? There will alway be lots of way for starters to sell their products ; don't forget that SL still has a huge advantage over RL: no manufacturing costs.

Agreed!

Because SL should bend the laws of economics within its virtual space to provide ice cream and puppy dogs to everyone!

No SL could bend the laws precisely because it isn't RL.

How?

The standard laws of economics do not allow for an environment in which anyone who is not getting what they want can just leave the entire system completely at no penalty to themselves.

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Tell that to everyone who flees Cuba and who fled the Soviet Union in search of real opportunity. People drop out of economic systems all the time in search of better opportunity.

Absolutely.

Let's try to retain new players, not discourage them.

Yes, people do flee economic systems. That wasn't my point. The point is that the standard economic system doesn't allow for people fleeing. Unless you are saying that the economic systems of Cuba and the Soviet Union have, or had, people fleeing actually designed into them as factors for consideration.

The SL economy does need to have "fleeing or not" designed into it. People need not to flee or the game will lose new blood, and LL will either lose money or have to continue provoking the feeling Chip talked about - that the people who do the content and succeed also wind up being the ones who pay the most (because at present they have to be, because they're the only ones LL can pretty much depend on not to flee)

How?

Just a question, Richie, but how exactly does raising the price on classifieds make more money for LL? Its simply a sink for them, as they are the one entity that can't trade L$ for US$.

Regards,

-Flip

This topic is a perfect example. In RL, someone with a bigger advertising budget gets better placement, more ad time or whatever.

There is no reason that SL has to follow this model. The classfieds could easily be structured so that everyone, regardless of ad budget gets more or less equal treatment.

There's nothing wrong with that, except that it isn't reflective of the real worlkd.

Why not? They can sell on LindeX just the same as everyone else. If they magiced money from nowhere to sell, that would mess up the exchange rate, but if it's money they've been paid in game for a service it's not increasing circulation surely?

Ah, okay. Success penalty. Gotta be the same as everyone else, even if you've worked hard to afford an ad budget and other expansion.

Gotcha!

Actually, Linden employees are FORBIDDEN from selling L$ from their Linden accounts, and extremely limited in what they can sell under their "alt" accounts. Linden Lab has continuously said they will NEVER sell L$, and don't sell L$, they are just hooking up buyers and sellers.

Things like classifieds are merely an economic sink, and Linden doesn't profit in US$ from them in any way. If Linden Lab were to start selling L$, the implications to a balanced economy are kind of scary.

Regards,

-Flip

Why is having to be the same as everyone else a "penalty"? It's just, uhh, being the same as everyone else.

Fair enough. But that said, I don't see any reason why Linden Lab couldn't sell L$ provided they were paid to them by other players in the game, rather than being created by magic.

After all, if I pay Linden Labs L$250 and they sell it, the effect on the market will be just the same as if I had decided to sell that L$250 instead of paying it to them, except that the US$ will go to LL instead of me.