SensCass: Did You Call for Rape and Murder?
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-01-2006 13:42
I've seen some personal attacks and forum trolling in my days but this has stepped so far beyond what is acceptable that it might very well be breaking RL laws. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2313http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2304From what I can tell it looks like SenCass might be responsible for the death threats and the call to rape MadZag, based on the fact that they're having an argument over at SLUniverse. I say the folks on the two forums get together and compare IP addresses. If this person is the perpetrator, they should be exiled from SL.
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Lewis Nerd
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09-01-2006 13:44
SC drama begins there, not here. I'm getting rather tired of the multiple threads on the same subject to be honest.
You do realise that by bringing it here you're giving the troll exposure and publicity, which is exactly what they thrive on?
Lewis
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Belaya Statosky
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09-01-2006 13:44
What was that about 'freedom' and 'security' again? 
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-01-2006 13:52
You can be a nanny in your forum if you want Lewis but I subscribe to the philosophy that adults should be allowed to make their own informed decisions. I also feel that this issue should be brought to the attention of the Lindens. Death and rape threats from members is absolutely unacceptable regardless of where they take place and they have an obligation to see that this person is removed from the community.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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09-01-2006 13:53
From: Belaya Statosky What was that about 'freedom' and 'security' again?  oh snap!
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Lewis Nerd
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09-01-2006 13:54
From: Uma Bauhaus You can be a nanny in your forum if you want Lewis but I subscribe to the philosophy that adults should be allowed to make their own informed decisions. I also feel that this issue should be brought to the attention of the Lindens. Death and rape threats from members is absolutely unacceptable regardless of where they take place and they have an obligation to see that this person is removed from the community. Nothing "nanny" about it, it's called being responsible and taking care of those in your community. Linden Lab won't do diddle about it, because it's a third party forum and beyond their control. I would support you 100% with the removal of this scumball from SL but it isn't going to happen. Lewis
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Ewan Took
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09-01-2006 13:55
Can I say 'yes' to the thread title? I believe it.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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09-01-2006 13:57
From: Uma Bauhaus If this person is the perpetrator, they should be exiled from SL. And since you have nothing in the way of proof beyond, at best, motive, this entire thread is libel and should be locked. Grow up, Ulrika.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-01-2006 13:59
From: Reitsuki Kojima And since you have nothing in the way of proof beyond, at best, motive, this entire thread is libel and should be locked. It's phrased in the subjunctive, moron. Although it doesn't have to be. We all know what's going on.
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Presta Primbee
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09-01-2006 14:01
From: Reitsuki Kojima Grow up, Ulrika. People who have been coddled their entire lives don't grow up. They just raise other pompous twits.
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Finning Widget
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09-01-2006 14:05
From: Lewis Nerd SC drama begins there, not here. I'm getting rather tired of the multiple threads on the same subject to be honest.
You do realise that by bringing it here you're giving the troll exposure and publicity, which is exactly what they thrive on?
Lewis Uhm, no, she's bringing the criminal activities of a person exposure and publicity, which will lead to their arrest and prosecution for threats, sexual harassment, and such. The very last thing that something like this needs is /less/ publicity and /less/ exposure and modding and censorship. It needs everyone who runs the individual forums involved, to work together according to their privacy agreements with their individual users, the law, and law enforcement - to locate the person who perpetrated this criminal activity and prosecute them. That's my opinion - I'm not a lawyer, nor is it legal advice. It is advice born out of previous experience with law enforcement, and the investigation of and prosecution of criminals who use the Internet / forums / IM / whatever to steal, threaten, lie, trick, coerce, bribe, defraud, seduce, stalk - etcetera. Rape is a crime. Threatening to rape someone is a crime. Calling people to rape someone is a crime. They're disgusting, filthy crimes, and every legally-available effort possible should be made to see to it that the person who did it is caught and prosecuted.
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Ewan Took
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09-01-2006 14:05
Omg , WTF it's attcak of the alts, save me!
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Kyrah Abattoir
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09-01-2006 14:07
i don't see the problem with death threads i say much worse stuffs to my friends everydays.
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Ledje Gorky
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09-01-2006 14:09
Philip...why are you tormenting us like this? Hit the damn red button already !!
Lets end these forums while they still have some dignity....
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Duntroon Donburi
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09-01-2006 14:10
its funny that people are offered a community with total freedom of speech. Then a few people abuse this freedom, and then others use this as an excuse to mock and criticise.
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Sensual Casanova
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09-01-2006 14:10
From: Uma Bauhaus I've seen some personal attacks and forum trolling in my days but this has stepped so far beyond what is acceptable that it might very well be breaking RL laws. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2313http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2304From what I can tell it looks like SenCass might be responsible for the death threats and the call to rape MadZag, based on the fact that they're having an argument over at SLUniverse. I say the folks on the two forums get together and compare IP addresses. If this person is the perpetrator, they should be exiled from SL. Ulrika I think it is finally time for me to say that you are the most ignorant person I have ever met, the same person posted on sl-forums.com however we locked and moved those posts immediatley for you to put the blame on me for something so sick and immature, well, I am not even commenting anymore, but I will say it was NOT me.
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Lewis Nerd
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09-01-2006 14:10
From: Finning Widget Uhm, no, she's bringing the criminal activities of a person exposure and publicity, which will lead to their arrest and prosecution for threats, sexual harassment, and such. Did anyone bother to check whether the person being threatened actually minded all this publicity of the disgusting threats made against them? In fact, has anyone given her any consideration, or is the only truly important thing that SC gets more exposure? Lewis
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-01-2006 14:10
From: Finning Widget Rape is a crime.
Threatening to rape someone is a crime.
Calling people to rape someone is a crime.
They're disgusting, filthy crimes, and every legally-available effort possible should be made to see to it that the person who did it is caught and prosecuted. Agreed. It is absolutely unacceptable. I will encourage the folks over at Second Citizen to cooperate with the other forum owners to determine the identity of this person. It should be forwarded to MadZag (and then the authorities) and then to the Lindens.
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Luciftias Neurocam
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09-01-2006 14:11
From: Uma Bauhaus I've seen some personal attacks and forum trolling in my days but this has stepped so far beyond what is acceptable that it might very well be breaking RL laws. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2313http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=2304From what I can tell it looks like SenCass might be responsible for the death threats and the call to rape MadZag, based on the fact that they're having an argument over at SLUniverse. I say the folks on the two forums get together and compare IP addresses. If this person is the perpetrator, they should be exiled from SL. Christ almighty...Jeska, just pull the plug on this place, please.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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09-01-2006 14:12
From: Uma Bauhaus It's phrased in the subjunctive, moron. Although it doesn't have to be. We all know what's going on. I say again, grow up, Uma. The very fact you brought out a name is libel in this case - you're directly accusing her of doing it, and hiding it behind a not-question. Now, more likely, you don't believe anything of the sort and you're doing more of your twisted puppet-games, watching the forumites dance to what you think is your string-pulls. But on the off-chance you do honestly believe it, you're smart enough to know this was not the way to go about asking the question.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-01-2006 14:13
From: Sensual Casanova but I will say it was NOT me. Would you be willing to forward the unaltered httpd and forum logs to Cristiano for analysis? I'm sure you'd like this cleared up as well and I'm sure he would volunteer to go through the data.
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Lupus Delacroix
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09-01-2006 14:14
From: Luciftias Neurocam Christ almighty...Jeska, just pull the plug on this place, please. Are you kidding me? The bickering is the only thing that makes forums interesting.
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Lo Jacobs
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09-01-2006 14:15
It's been quite an active and entertaining day on the forums, actually.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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09-01-2006 14:16
From: Uma Bauhaus Would you be willing to forward the unaltered httpd and forum logs to Cristiano for analysis? I'm sure you'd like this cleared up as well and I'm sure he would volunteer to go through the data. Would you be willing to submit to a strip and body cavity search to prove you're innocent? Very "freedom verses security" of you, Ulrika.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Sensual Casanova
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09-01-2006 14:17
From: Uma Bauhaus Would you be willing to forward the unaltered httpd and forum logs to Cristiano for analysis? I'm sure you'd like this cleared up as well and I'm sure he would volunteer to go through the data. lol they can easily investigate it w/o my help and by all means go for it...
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