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Who are the W-hats?

Teddy Kennedy
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10-25-2005 11:49
From: Dr Sholokhov
Where is the reference to a season?

well HIV would tend to indicate the fall or winter of one's life
Dr Sholokhov
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10-25-2005 11:51
From: Sky Stormwind
You have never offered a single useful thing that this group does. All it is designed to do is grief and provoke. it is the reason for being for the group.


Actually that's not true.. someone said that they are mostly builders. You should go look at Baku yourself, there is a pretty cool tower there right now.
Teddy Kennedy
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10-25-2005 11:52
From: Sky Stormwind
You have never offered a single useful thing that this group does. All it is designed to do is grief and provoke. it is the reason for being for the group.

I say BOYCOTT not only those members of the so called "internet terrorist group" but ALSO APOLOGISTS for it! You want to be aligned with terrorist bullies? great. I won't be shopping at your store, or dropping by your club, or wearing your nipple rings or skins or hair. Sanctions can work in SL. Let's give it a try.

Anyone want to stand up against the bullies instead of defending them? instead of trying to paint THEM as the victims? omg. please! how ridiculous! This group routinely harms, damages, griefs, gets banned, wash rinse repeat. The accounts have been too numerous to cite in a single post. to claim that this was an isolated incident is beyond ludicrous.


Can you name a single useful thing that most SL groups do? Hell no, most of them are just social groups. And I can't seem to convince you that we are not 'designed to grief and provoke' or any of that nonsense, I'm starting to repeat myself and I won't want you to sprain whatever finger you use for holding down the shift key for screaming on the internet.

You're making so many wrong statements I don't even know where to begin, so instead, I'm going to have some lemonade. I suggest you do the same, because lemonade is awesome and makes people happy.
Sky Stormwind
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HAH you wish!
10-25-2005 11:53
I'm sure it is inconvenient for W-Hat and related groups (something awful included) to have their behaviour scrutinized publicly and that you wish this thread would end now.

I'm sure it is unpleasant for bullies to have to face consequences of their actions. But how does one cure a school yard bully? I can think of only two ways: stop letting their actions net them profits (no more lunch money) and provide them with consequences for their actions.
Sky Stormwind
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Someone said?
10-25-2005 11:54
Someone said the scientologists were mostly movie stars. does that make scientology a group about film performance?

From: Dr Sholokhov
Actually that's not true.. someone said that they are mostly builders. You should go look at Baku yourself, there is a pretty cool tower there right now.
Dr Sholokhov
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10-25-2005 11:54
From: Teddy Kennedy
I'm going to have some lemonade. I suggest you do the same, because lemonade is awesome and makes people happy.


Iced Tea is where it's at.
Dr Sholokhov
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10-25-2005 11:55
From: Sky Stormwind
Someone said the scientologists were mostly movie stars. does that make scientology a group about film performance?


What? Who would say something dumb like that?

Scientologists are mostly rehab patients, duh. :)
Teddy Kennedy
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10-25-2005 11:58
From: Sky Stormwind
I'm sure it is inconvenient for W-Hat and related groups (something awful included) to have their behaviour scrutinized publicly and that you wish this thread would end now.

I'm sure it is unpleasant for bullies to have to face consequences of their actions. But how does one cure a school yard bully? I can think of only two ways: stop letting their actions net them profits (no more lunch money) and provide them with consequences for their actions.

You're damned right I wish this thread would end now, I'm in a betting pool for L$200 that the thread gets locked by post 110, because any time someone says 'w-hat' on the forums, the thread turns into a utter circus with dopes on one side screaming HURR W-HAT KILLED MY TELEVISION AND STOLE MY WIFE' and the other side screaming 'look you butts we weren't even logged on when the event in question occurred' and a bunch of people in the middle trying to decide who to believe.

EDIT:

vvvv stop that down there >=( vvvv
Dr Sholokhov
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10-25-2005 11:59
108

poor ted
Wayfinder Wishbringer
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10-25-2005 11:59
From: Teddy Kennedy
Can you name a single useful thing that most SL groups do? Hell no, most of them are just social groups.


Well, I don't know about "most" SL groups... but...

Our Poetry Guild provides budding writers with a public platform to display their works. Many of these people would otherwise receive no encouragement to build their skills.

The Builders Guild teaches people how to build efficiently and wonderfully.... which increases creativity, spacial perception and productivity... and in some cases... a skill which can actually provide income.

Elf Clan provides social environments, teaches merchanting skills (which can be useful in RL as well), holds contests (which put L$ in people's pockets), and promotes Elven lore (literary benefit). We encourage personal achievement, honor and integrity, principles which are valuable in all aspects of life.

And that's just within our three groups. How many hundreds of groups are there on SL? And while ALL groups (both SL and RL) have a basic core of social purpose... that doesn't mean that's all they achieve. Nor does it mean they spend their time trying to figure out how to harass other users.
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Teddy Kennedy
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10-25-2005 12:02
From: Wayfinder Wishbringer
Well, I don't know about "most" SL groups... but...

Our Poetry Guild provides budding writers with a public platform to display their works. Many of these people would otherwise receive no encouragement to build their skills.

The Builders Guild teaches people how to build efficiently and wonderfully.... which increases creativity, spacial perception and productivity... and in some cases... a skill which can actually provide income.

Elf Clan provides social environments, teaches merchanting skills (which can be useful in RL as well), holds contests (which put L$ in people's pockets), and promotes Elven lore (literary benefit). We encourage personal achievement, honor and integrity, principles which are valuable in all aspects of life.

And that's just within our three groups. How many hundreds of groups are there on SL? And while ALL groups (both SL and RL) have a basic core of social purpose... that doesn't mean that's all they achieve. Nor does it mean they spend their time trying to figure out how to harass other users.


Well, w-hat also tends to teach its members how to build and script and stuff, and we group together and get space to sell our wares, so I guess we have a function too now.

And really, we're not 'out to harass other users' can you people even get through a single post without regarding that idea as gospel

Anyway I have to go for a while back later ok keep the thread warm

*checks post count* Oh son of a bitch
Gabe Lippmann
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10-25-2005 12:03
From: Teddy Kennedy
can you people even get through a single post without regarding that idea as gospel


Nope :D
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Sky Stormwind
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Iced tea
10-25-2005 12:03
Iced tea is awesome, but that has nothing to do with the point. Dang you guys have lousy reasoning. The point is that

1. W-hatters are like the mosquitos of the internet and will proliferate as long as people say oh it's just a little bug, what is the problem? or look it has wings! birds have wings. i like birds. birds are pretty. therefore mosquitos are pretty.

2. There is only one proven way to get rid of a school yard bully and that is to keep the profits he makes as school yard bully (either in esteem or materials) from profiting him or her. I say BOYCOTT is the only solution to this menace. Let's give these mosquitos a taste of some cure.
Travis Lambert
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10-25-2005 12:08
From: Sky Stormwind
The group, Travis and other apologists, stands for nothing but troublemaking and you know it.


Sky, please enlighten me as to how I stand for troublemaking? Because I mentioned that the few W-Hats that have attended events at my place were alright & didn't cause trouble?

How does this apologize for W-Hat?

So, I take it anyone that doesn't post a disparaging comment about W-Hat in this thread must be a W-Hat sympothizer?

Jesus. Is it 1953, and are we talking about communism?
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Mulch Ennui
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10-25-2005 12:09
From: Travis Lambert
?

So, I take it anyone that doesn't post a disparaging comment about W-Hat in this thread must be a W-Hat sympothizer?



Man I have to commend you on your usefulness twice in 1 day?

welcome to SL Forums 101

Edit: Metaverse equivilant of "With us or against us"
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Devlin Gallant
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10-25-2005 12:11
W-hats are a sub-group of Sociopaths Anonymous AKA SA.
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-25-2005 12:13
From: Travis Lambert

Jesus. Is it 1953, and are we talking about communism?


*holds up laundry list*

Have you now, or ever been, a member of W-Hat?

:D
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Gabe Lippmann
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10-25-2005 12:14
From: Travis Lambert
So, I take it anyone that doesn't post a disparaging comment about W-Hat in this thread must be a W-Hat sympothizer?


You dirty dog, Trav. We all know you're Sheltering Multiverse Terrorist Cels! :mad:
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Travis Lambert
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10-25-2005 12:14
From: Aliasi Stonebender
*holds up laundry list*

Have you now, or ever been, a member of W-Hat?

:D


LOL! <microphone chirps>
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Charissa Korvin
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10-25-2005 12:18
I hate to even post in this thread but I feel I must because it alarms me that these terrorists, yes, terrorists, are getting exactly what they want: Attention.

12 pages in this thread alone and the whole grid abuzz about how one guy in W-Hat crashed the whole grid.

I know first hand that these individuals are largely nothing more than antagonists and trouble makers. Their group/s: W-Hat and Something Awful have both, time and time again, proven to be nothing short of a breeding ground for griefers and individuals who lack the capacity to see anyone not in their little club-for-bullies as people who are worthy of respect for their on space and property.

As to my initial statement, which some may either flame or find amusing, I say terrorists because it seems to me these individuals pray on the fear of other residence/players in the hopes that you will either retalitate against them out of anger and resentment or accomodate them and their clique because to do otherwise is to open the door to their harassment.

And that's what it boils down to in my mind. These children are nothing but abusers, users and losers who have nothing better to do and obviously no lives that they would seek out gratification online by poisoning the environment we work and play in with their sewage.

Personally, I think everyone of them should be banned. They can go up to the quicky mart and buy another 20 pre paid credit cards if they want in order to get another freebie account so they can continue their crusade to show us all who has the bigger weewee but in the end it will be they who are inconvenienced by the constant need to spend their own money to get a cheap thrill.

If the history of these group's members is any indication I feel safe in saying that nothing short of completely cutting out the cancer will cure the disease.
Sky Stormwind
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Me, Mcarthy? naw.
10-25-2005 12:24
Thing is, Travis, I really don't care to hang out with homophobes and racists who have "straight pride" and "white pride" tags over their heads. Nothing against you, but if your club is populated by W-hatters and Something Awful members, who call THEMSELVES the schoolyard bullies of SL and the terrorists of the internet, then why would I want to go to your club?

Who wants to hang out with a crew who thinks themselves so clever that it is ok for them to victimize whomever they want? This is not a group that stands for any other ideal: religious, political or otherwise. This is utterly NOT McCarthyism that I am suggesting because that sought to punish people for their political beliefs.

W-Hat is a group that has banded for the sole purpose of causing disruption and provocation at targeted groups and people they want to bully. Some people may be misled by spin to believe that these are just people in a social club being innocently victimized by folks who would like to see the group face consequences for its actions.

Don't believe the apologists folks. As others have suggested this has happened too many times to count. check the forums yourself if you don't believe me. They assault, insult, harass, and injure then they claim it was an isolated incident. Something to keep in mind: isolated incidents don't happen over and over and over and over and over.

From: Travis Lambert
Sky, please enlighten me as to how I stand for troublemaking? Because I mentioned that the few W-Hats that have attended events at my place were alright & didn't cause trouble?

How does this apologize for W-Hat?

So, I take it anyone that doesn't post a disparaging comment about W-Hat in this thread must be a W-Hat sympothizer?

Jesus. Is it 1953, and are we talking about communism?
Mulch Ennui
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10-25-2005 12:25
Something Awful and W-Hat, in fact, are Rogue Groups of the Access of Evil!

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AND

AND

They recently tried to by sponge cake uranium from the family of a slain Nigerian Dictator who wanted to transfer 49 million dollars into my bank account






We cannot allow the Goons get a hold of WMG (weapons of mass griefing)!

We cannot wait for the final proof — the smoking gun — that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
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Sky Stormwind
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10-25-2005 12:28
is the enemy of logic. That's a nice tapdance you're doing mulch. think it's gonna keep people from noticing that a bomb went off? that greifballs caused them what they were intended to cause them: grief? How stupid do you really think we are?

We don't have to wait for proof of weapons: we've seen them in action. All the w-hat members i have met have several in inventory. Doesn't take much: something that self replicates or is inefficiently scripted or has overlapping physics. it doesn't take a genius to make a weapon of mass destruction for SL. (sorry, guys, but not too 1337, really).

We don't have to wait for proof of menacing behaviour. We've had it already in countless police blotter reports where a w-hatter was banned or warned for causing grief.

So what is your point? Oh yeah. You didn't have one. You were just tapdancing.
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10-25-2005 12:31
From: Sky Stormwind
is the enemy of logic. That's a nice tapdance you're doing mulch. think it's gonna keep people from noticing that a bomb went off? that greifballs caused them what they were intended to cause them: grief? How stupid do you really think we are?


When you say we, do you mean you speak for people who don't agree with you as well?
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10-25-2005 12:32
From: Sky Stormwind
You were just tapdancing.


You sir are a racist!
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