Who are the W-hats?

I had posted a lengthy message here regarding yet another moronic pro-W-Hat message, but then it hit me, "Why should I waste my time with this nonsense?"

When it all comes down to bottom line, the focus again is on the hosting company and what does it allow/not allow. The activites of W-Hat are well documented on these forums. W-Hat has harassed user after user and in every case the group has proclaimed innocence and outrage that people would pick on them.

So long as LL decides to allow such things, there's not much anyone can do about it. If members rise up in arms and begin defending themselves... they will absolutely be banned from the board by LL, as history has proven. Groups such as W-Hat know this.

So it all comes down to what LL allows... and whether users stand for it. There may not be much individual users can do right now, but you have to know that considering the profitability factor of Second Life-- competition can't be far behind. And that is when all these things will be voted upon in the most definite way.

A bunch of folks are members of both, and both groups are filled with people who also have memberships at somethingawful.com, but really they're two different groups.

Many of their members, including their founder, have responded to many of these threads and have not denied that he is a member.

I suppose you know better than their own members and founder?

It's a requirement. You must have an active Something Awful forums account that is at least 3 months old to apply for W-Hat membership.

I pointed out that the group tag on the object a screenshot was posted of was not, in fact, w-hat, and really, that's indisputable. I'm really not sure where you're going here.

Edit to respond to the post right above me: yeah I know

what's your point

The SOMETHINGAWFUL DOT COM group was created because I kicked someone out of W-Hat for breaking the rules. Ha-ha. Ol was a member of both, so both groups bear as little (or as much, if you want) responsibility for what happened, whatever tag he happened to have active at the time.

Not this bull again Teddy.

Sure they are not W-Hat, ... big deal.

It's fairly common knowledge that to join W-Hat you sign on as a "throw-away character," do some big "exploits" as part of the admission process, and if it works and is generally approved of, log on as a new avatar and new W-Hat member. I bet you cant even join W-Hat without being banned or warned at least once.

"Ol Fitzcarraldo" the avatar has effectively killed himself already and what groups he belonged to are not relevant.
The only question is who is he when he *next* signs on?

I think he is the latest W-Hat member although we will never know.

The point is clear.

The group themselves do not deny that he is a member of w-hat.

What about that point don't you understand?

And in case you still don't understand, perhaps the above quote by the founder might finally bring some form of understanding to you.

Aren't you the lady that said on the forums that W-Hat was "hunting you with push guns," and when I asked you about it it turned out: 1) They were not W-Hat members; 2) They had nothing to do with W-Hat; 3) You knew both of these things, but you said you thought they were connected to W-Hat because you "saw them at W-Hat HQ"; 4) You weren't really sure where (or whether) you had seen them or where W-Hat HQ was; 5) You weren't even on when they were at your house "hunting" you?

wh- what? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

You really have NO IDEA. That's not at all it.

OK I'll probably get tossed out of the group for this but here is the initiation:

At one of the weekly meetings where all the active members of Something Awful get together under a bridge down by the sewer treatment plant, prospective new members of w-hat ask to join. we make them go find a kitten, the cutest kitten they can find, and then they steal it while their owner (preferably a small girl) watches. Then, they paint a red upside down hand (a perversion of the Second Life logo) on the kitten's fur, and sodomize it to death. After that, the kitten is passed around the people giving the initiation for them to 'use' in a similar fashion. Finally, the prospective member must eat the kitten while the horrified owner watches. Then, and only then, are they allowed into the group.

Really, that one person got it 100% right. Be a member of SA for 3 months, that way we know you're not just joining SA to get into w-hat. Be a member of SL for a week, in hopes that people who join SL just to screw around and cause trouble will have already gotten it out of their system. THE END

The other group, Something Awful Dot Com, has even more lax rules than that, I think as long as you can prove you have a SA forums account you're in. I don't know, I'm not in that group and have no interest in it.

W-hat is more geared toward making stuff (you guys really should see Baku, the tower is pretty impressive looking), the other group, well, I don't know. I haven't seen much of their stuff with my own eyes, so I'm not going to claim I know anything about it.

Wow, not claiming to know things I don't know - that just might be a first for this board.


EDIT:

Clearly, you guys just have no comprehension, no 'getting it', no insight, no
understanding. It's sad. It's easy to figure out. We're really pretty transparent.
Never have we said w're what we're not, we're creative types, sometimes nice,
truthfully, sometimes we're jerks. Just like everyone. Just like you, you, and you.
Silly how we can't just get along.

members of W-Hat who were members of the Something Awful group seemed to me to be mainly old timers of W-Hat. Both groups (all groups related to W-Hat and there are overlapping ones depending on the type of disruption that is desired) are designed to unite people in the cause of being provocative. Sometimes provocative is good, but this brand of provocative is not the "I am interested in expanding knowledge of the human condition kind;" this kind of provocative is the "I am elite and IT therefore I AM (and you are not) and whatever I do to you is good because it is I doing it and I am elite" kind of provocative.

The W-hatters believe themselves to be (as they say in their own poll) leet, or elite however they spell it. Their actions use "goons," the name of the rank they give to their newb troublemakers. Ol Fitzcarrerro was hardly a new player. he was using as a graphic on that grief ball the same graphic that has appeared on giant, multi-prim posters that were made by W-Hat. Is that not a symbol that his action was condoned by W-hat?

The only way to get the shine off this apple is to make it so that the "well respected" members of W-hat and Something Awful understand that so long as they align themselves with people who describe the group's role as internet terrorists or bullies that they will lose sales and money. Seriously, the only way to fight this group is for people on SL to show they have had enough by stopping shopping at their stores, stop buying their land, lindens, etc.

I am 1337 (leet),
I make a fleet
of griefballs,
look there aren't they sweet?

I'm Something Awful, smart and tricksy.
I offend lesser-ones for my kicksies
and if it bothers you, once more.
Maybe I'll move in right next door!

I am 1337,
I make a sheet
of missles to shoot across the street
at all my neighbors. Aren't I sweet?

I can do what I want 'cause I'm 1337, 1337, 1337.

I can't speak for the leadership but I'm pretty sure that anyone caught using the word 'leet' would be hunted down and murdered with axes

also lots of people use funny internet pictures, I bet you could find that image on fark, are you going to go after people with crappy taste in websites next?

also 'goon' means nothing more than 'a member of the something awful forums', we don't really do the rank thing

We, we, we.

So proud.

So ignorant.

So sad.

yes because after all saying we're not that different from each other and that really we could all get along awesomely if everyone realized this fact is the height of self-importance

Do you even know what the words you are typing mean

Sadly enough This will be the talk of the next several months W-Hat was seperated from SA back at last arguement and are going to be blamed for the latest escapade. Let's just pray the W-Hat island does not get griefed. It is not hard to prevent, but it would be better not to have any at all! Kick their butt's Masak and Baku!

For the record, the majority of W-Hats I've actually come in contact with in-world are alright. I had one incident with W-Hat about a year ago, everyone kissed & made up, and we haven't thought much about it since. Other than that, most of the stuff I've read about is just that: stuff I've read about.

I just wanted to point out a little bit of irony - not sure if it'll be lost on everyone else...

W-Hats may be feeling a little oppressed right now because the historical & present actions of a minority of their members (defining members loosely here) are being used to define what the W-Hats as a group are all about.

Furries have felt a little oppressed because the historical & present behavior of a minority of their community have been used to define what Furries as a group are all about.

Granted, there are exceptions - but I think it may be fair to say that there's no love lost between the two above mentioned 'subgroups'.

And I find that Ironic

You know what's REALLY ironic?

There's more furries in w-hat than you'd ever imagine


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hehehe maybe so. I guess my 'exceptions' caveat wasn't strong enough.

But gotta admit - the perception is there at least

Puhleaze. No love lost? Most people were members of both groups and proudly responded to either. The fact that the griefball used the banner of the Something Awful group (a giant, multiprim image on their property on the new continent) DOES indicate something about the nature of the group's cooperative movements. The missles and foetus lobbers the group built used the work of more than one isolated member.

I hardly imagine that the group's properties will be griefed. The group, Travis and other apologists, stands for nothing but troublemaking and you know it. What else does W-Hat do if NOT make trouble? Sure individuals may be nice enough if you take the time to talk to them, but i'm sure hitler was a pretty swell guy at a tea party. Individuals are always nice if taken individually. usually. W-hat we are talking about, though, is a group that uses the word "goon" to refer to its membership!

Oh, and the term 1337 was picked up from a spin-poll that W-hat apologists put up right after the incident.

I can shuck and jive and wear an afro
and spread chicken legs wherever i go
and complain about how i'm oppressed, you know?
by all those mean people who want me to go.

I'll wear titles saying i'm for straights rights
and hang out with queers on friday nights.
I go around hoping to get into fights
and tp my friends around whatever victim bites.

It doesn't matter if i'm banned, or my actions have gotten out of hand.
I'll spread annoyance through the land, (was Something Awful my right or my left hand?)

I'm nasty and rude to those i meet, unless they buy my stuff
then i'm sweet sweet sweet, until they go to a club that's down the street.

If you're having romantic time alone on any land you don't personally own
i'll come right in and sit right down
maybe put on a train avie and clown around.

Oh you didn't like that? didn't want to feel my scorn?
w-ho CARES! you're not tech-leet noble born
so i get to make you feel defiled
offer to poop on you when you're getting wild.

When i'm banned, i'll make another avie
who looks and acts just exactly like me
spread chicken legs wherever i happen to be:
spread the ugly racism i like to see.

I'm W-hat, and something awful too.
(I didn't read the press release, did you?
did we have a fight? don't think that's true,
but we're saying that? well ok, that's coo)

I'm elite and i'm so sweet
setting griefballs rolling down the street
wearing the mantle of my fleet
i'm 1337 1337 1337 1337 1337.

goons started being used on the SA forums after some dope on the internet referred to the forums as 'a bunch of goons' and we decided to wear that badge with pride

no offense but you're not going to win any caldecott medals

haiku is more my style

This thread is so great
It is a lovely flower
oh no, HIV

How is this for haiku?

We, we, we.

So proud.

So ignorant.

So sad.

Where is the reference to a season?

that's pretty terrible actually

haiku is one line of 5 syllables, one line of 7 syllables, and a final line of 5 syllables

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku

From a strictly technical perspective, not. But love the sentiment.

You have never offered a single useful thing that this group does. All it is designed to do is grief and provoke. it is the reason for being for the group.

I say BOYCOTT not only those members of the so called "internet terrorist group" but ALSO APOLOGISTS for it! You want to be aligned with terrorist bullies? great. I won't be shopping at your store, or dropping by your club, or wearing your nipple rings or skins or hair. Sanctions can work in SL. Let's give it a try.

Anyone want to stand up against the bullies instead of defending them? instead of trying to paint THEM as the victims? omg. please! how ridiculous! This group routinely harms, damages, griefs, gets banned, wash rinse repeat. The accounts have been too numerous to cite in a single post. to claim that this was an isolated incident is beyond ludicrous.