Sith groups and other pathology on SL

Fine, I'll drop it for now, but I personally feel your definition is too narrow.



I agree whole-heartedly... depending on how far you extend canon... as I said, I embrace the Extended Universe, and indeed intend on extending it it myself. To the point, I am all for mutual respect and fun roleplay, not gangland sophomoric acts disguised as roleplaying.



I would love to get together in world for discussion and roleplay.

-Ghoti

The Dark side adherent embraces too fully her emotions, and hence is consumed by them. The Light side adherent denies their emotions, and hence lacks their insight. In balance lies the secret to true mastery.

One time I was at a book store and the book store sales guy saw me looking at a book, he was like, that Star Wars book is so cool. So I bought it and went home and read it. Then the next day I went back to the book store, he was like "how was the book" and I was like "it was so cool, I like the part with Boba Fet" We talked for a while and like exchanged opinions on various Star Wars book. So he told me to read some Star Trek book and I was like "Star Trek is for losers". He looked at me and was like "Dude, NOT" and I was like "DUDE YES" and then we were argueing if Star Trek was as worthy as Star Wars. And he was like "THe new Star Trek books are so cool" and I was like "DUDE, NOT" So I said to hell with star anything and bought a book about the first mass murderer in New York, it was about a guy who killed little girls in the late 1800/ early 1900. After reading that I was all depressed and I didnt have any medication left so I went back to the book store and was like "Dude, Whats that Star Trek book, I'll give it a shot" but he didnt remember me so he recommended a different one that had a cooler looking cover so I bought it and then I went home and read it and then after I was done I went back and told him that I didnt care for Star Trek much. He was like "DUDE ARE YOU CRAZY". I didnt want to gt into another arguement so I asked about the newest Star Wars book. He had not read it yet because he didnt want to spoil the movie. I bought it and read and when I was done I went to the book store and started telling him about it but he asked me not to spoil the movie so I kept talking and just made up fake scenes. He was like "Dude, Stop" I was like "I'm sorry.

So I went home and made a bunch of Star Wars Gesture. Sold exclusively at Mr. P's.

well that actually was part of the original threads title -

In so much as much of the "role play" in second life involved a bunch of people bragging / yelling and then blasting at each other with the biggest scripts they can find.

Come to think of it most Role Play in MMORPGS is the same way ..

whether its Sith , or mafia, etc.

I think theres a lot of people who have a lot of hostility they are bad at dealing with.

Its entirely possible also that true role play is a more cerebral activity than most people are suited for.

In other words - perhaps "role play" attracts more people than it should.

I think you hit the nail right on the head here, Colette. Now the task is to try to attract the right people. This will require serious leaders in serious groups (ie: myself in the jedi, Ghoti in the Dark/Grey Jedi... and... hmm... Sith? heh).

Marcus

Ok, I will add a real opinion here now. I will stop clowning.

I think it is fun to role play. I think people are entitled to role play. When part of that role playing becomes breaking the rules, and doing stuff in a public sim that does not belong there, we have an issue.

For instance, fighting and bombing buildings on a private sim dedicated to retail shops is a bad thing. WHat is worse, when the group that is based in this sim is approached, they blame the "enemy" for coming there, stating it isnt thier fault. When does it become not role playing?

I have experience with another Star Wars group, the Clone Troopers. What they did was go and buy like half a sim just for thier games and training and have strict rules. If you are caught giving the group a bad name outside of dedicated land, they kick you out of the group. I think this is the correct way to do such an activity.

I really think both the Siths and Jedi should look into the option of buying a sim, or a large piece of land and then they dont have to worry about anyone else complaining.

Ok, I am will turn off my instant-mental-link to this thread soon.

Beau, you have a point. The Sith have done so - Korriban sim. However, if any Jedi goes there and other Sith are there, you are instantly told to go away or immediately attacked. I have to beg just so I can check out the cool architecture they have done.

What I am trying to do is find a place for the current new Jedi Temple I built as well as Marymac's training facility, all in one general location, on an open/residential/meeting sim. It is just a matter of organizing and money.

Marcus

Print is dead.

Lag? I thought it was the 6 tacos I had for dinner last night

This is a great discussion! Now let's see some Yuuhzan Vong in SL!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong

Hehe, okay... we definately have need of discussion. Please don't say Dark/Grey Jedi as if they were one and the same. They are not.

I will be more than happy to discuss from the standpoint of a seeker of balance between the Light and the Dark, but will not attempt to discuss from the standpoint of the Dark side.

This is very loose and full of holes, but think of it in these terms:

Light Jedi = Lawful Good
Grey Jedi = True Neutral (a delicate balance, individuals often falling to N. Good or N. Evil)
Dark Jedi/Sith = Lawful Evil (with individuals falling toward either the Chaotic or Lawful aspects)

-Ghoti

LOL... Ghoti, that's such a good explanation. Actually, I wasn't aware of Grey Jedi before... is this an EU thing or is it represented anywhere in the "canonical" works?

Ahh, in my own reading of this article, I am more clear on the Grey Jedi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Jedi

Anakin Skywalker would have probably been considered a Grey Jedi before he went completely psycho.

Dark Jedi are no better than Sith, they just don't bind themselves to the Sith "order". Grey Jedi are no worse than the Jedi (for the most part heh), but they don't become "ordained" as Jedi Knights.

Marcus

Check out the link I posted about Qui-gon Jinn. Its his Wiki page.... there's a discussion about how his rebellious nature (discussed by several characters in Ep I) marks him as Grey.

If your view of canon means 'the movies, and only the movies' there is only hints. If it extends to include the Expanded Universe, there is plenty of material ranging from the Knight of the Old Republic through Luke Skywalker's own brush with the Dark Side and his emergence as an advocate of balance, through to the New Jedi Order series of novels.

-Ghoti

I guess one problem I have with Grey or even Dark Jedi in SL and roleplay, is that all the angst-filled youth as Jedi become impatient. They don't necessarily want to go Sith. But they are still too impatient to follow in the path of the Light with us serious Jedi. And thus they call themselves Grey or Dark. Then they feel they can learn any Force power and do whatever they want, and wear Megadeth shirts and carry around light sabers that can zap you with laser beams and shoot nukes. It is another RP problem I guess.

So serious Grey and even Dark Jedi, I welcome you for roleplay...

Marcus

I don't really care about puritanical definitions of "canon" much but I do like Qui-gon Jinn a lot, that much I know!

Somewhere between these two extremes, for one reason or another, lies the Grey Jedi.

-Ghoti

"And the Jedi I admire most
Met up with Darth Maul and now he's toast
Well, I'm still here and he's a ghost"

oh well

I just heard that song for my first time last night. I loved it.

I'm quite sure you don't care to know the minor details and I just need to assert my geekiness, but that was not Moff Tarkin who told off Vader (and lived!) that was Admiral Motti

okay... back to the regular discussion of the jedi religion and its existance

The Force?
Yeah. I like jedis and all, but.... I'd rather use the Schwartz.

Why? I don't know alot of stone cold Jedi Masters (anakin excluded) that can also get chicks. I'm not joining any hokey religion that doesn't all me to still get the hookup, and/or keep a good blaster at my side.

I also kinda want a Space Winnebago, hells yeah!

May the Schwartz be with you!

LOLEX... has one of these been made in SL yet? I love seeing completely inappropriate vehicles turned into spaceships. Even flying trains tickle mah fancee!

I have a really large setpos hovership. I'm drawing up plans for a spacey runabout thing, not quite the Bego, tho.

Thought was tarkin who had the line about "Their fire has gone out of the universe - you my friend are all thats left of their religeon"

was the admiral who said "your sorcerers ways .."

i was refering to two seperate quotes.

I could be wrong though. Been a while though since I saw that movie - in the old days we actually went to movies that were released in theaters more than one time. (in the dark ages before VCR's)

I dunno if this article has been referenced before, but its a good read:

Did the Jedi Have It Coming?

-Ghoti

I think a fundamental problem with Yoda is he wasn't cloned, nor were there more of his species.