Wait, so profiles have to be PG?

What makes even less sense is that there doesn't appear to be a way to 'turn off' viewing mature profiles, either completely or with a "Warning, mature profile, click here to open" button that pops up.

We have to remember one common misconception here - "adult" does not necessarily automatically mean "pornographic". Just because I have made different choices than you as to what I do and don't find acceptable does not make me wrong any more than it makes you right.

Lewis

Telling me to curtail *my* speech because it offends *you* is, indeed, infringement.

You know you love me, pet.

like i said, that final phase of maturity which brings about the realization that one is not actually the center of the world, usually does not fully set in till about 24-26, though of course, your individual mileage may vary

(and yes that actually has been scientifically researched)

but its alright to wave your pen0rz at passerby's... right?

I think when they added the "Publish on Web" And "Mark as mature" checkboxes,

Many Users - Most of whom only glance at a TOS and almost never read the forums -
Thought if they click the "post as Mature" it meant their profile was no longer bound to be PG.

I think it may be they mean only post to web in the mature section but they still assume you will be PG.

However LL should have anticipated this misunderstanding - profiles have become MUCH racier since that "mature" click box was added.

I have read a couple of profiles with full nudity and even Av sex Pictures in the Picks , for example.

while i think its in bad taste to put pictures of you having Av sex in your profile .. unless maybe you work in SL as a porn star ..

Until they make those check boxes clearer I think LL is partly responbsible for having an interface that is so easy to misinterpret.

Right, no one has any right to ask you to put your pants on, and you should be offended if they do. [/sarcasm]

Aren't there some bounds of common decency and courtesy inherent in 'civilized' society?

You do realise, of course, that walking around naked (thereby affecting everyone who can see you whether they want to or not) in public is quite different from placing things in personal profiles which someone actively has to open, correct?

I confess that I find it amusing that you run a disco; the disco scene was one of the most hedonistic scenes in music. I'm guessing you didn't replicate Studio 54.

Please, I'm a taken man. I wouldn't want to make all of the ladies any more jealous of Phedre as they already are.

holy crap 3 day suspension for profanity first offense ?

that seems kinda harsh I am thinking this person must of been given some waring first or that it was so offensive that they slapped on the 3 day suspension forth with

Regardless of if you think its "not fair" or a rights infringement for profiles to have to be PG, last I checked LL owned everything and we "rent" it from them. Therefore, if they tell you to put "I'm a dumbass" in your profile or they'll ban you in the TOS, we all better flaunt our dumbassitude in our profiles.

I personally view the profile like a business card - people look at it to get to know you/about you and what you can offer them without having to bother you. I'm not going to put an upskirt shot of myself on my business card ... especially if there are underage people around that could get ahold of it.

Do I have a RIGHT to put my cooch on a business card? Sure .. my card, my cooch.

Should I? No.

My sincere condolenses to your mate :/

I never said I was the center of the world. I don't hang out in the sex clubs, I don't have pixelated nudity in my profile and I actively dislike profiles like that.

I simply realise that people ought to have a right to express themselves that way, even if I think it is a bit silly, and I have a responsibility to guide my own eyes and firm dislike of others trying to guide them and for those who ache to be led.

Yes, but it's the same principle as saying anyone who might be offended by seeing you walking round WalMart naked is in the wrong for going shopping at the wrong time.



You're right, and you're also welcome to drop by. I'm experimenting with the new lighting effects right now so things may not be perfect. My interest in disco is mostly down to the style of music, rather than the 'hedonistic' side that you refer to.

Lewis

I accept that. I still have a right to express my dislike of such rules.

.. and thank you for expressing your dislike by coming here and civilly doing so with words, instead of being one of those people that does so by going WAY beyond obscene in their profile to "buck the system"

I think LL does a good job of keeping the PG & MA seperation. They offer different locales to go to and allow people that don't want to see MA content a place where they can avoid it.

Trouble is .. some things (like profiles) don't have an "off" so MA content can spill over into PG lands through them.

2nd Trouble is the griefers .. but .. they'll do anything they can in any system and you just have to keep squashing them.

I proposed before an Entire PG grid.

That way the anti nudity/ av sex / club/ bdsm/ gor/ furry yiff people would be completely shielded from all us hedonistic people.

Bye PG people - bon voyage. *sniff*

I do have to agree, this was one of the most enjoyable discussions i've ever had, thanks Puck.

Uh huh. Noted.

I swear to god, there's a humour vacuum somewhere in the forums to-day...

Why? Is she too stupid to know the "right kinds of men," thus needing your condolences since she is "stuck" with me?

I think Lewis is simply trying to say he wants the right to view profiles on the grid without being exposed to X rated material which he finds offensive.

While I do not share in his objections, I certainly understand them.

Allowing users to rate their profiles as mature or PG, coupled with an option to view PG only or PG and mature profiles would solve all problems and make everybody happy.

Don't ask me, she's your mate

yup, darn kids

What worries me is the idea, of for example, sexual fetish groups. If profiles have to be PG, it seems like groups such as "Bondage Furs" and "Gorean Slaves of ..." and so on would have to not appear in profiles. (they don't use adult language, but those groups are about as adult as you get in terms of topic).

Personally, I'd suggest only barring stuff in profiles which is *intended* to offend, or which is extremely graphic and doesn't have a "warning : adult content below!" marker above it...
To do otherwise seems to me.... worrying in its implications for what groups people can be in and non-PG expression in SL as a whole.
Then again, I might be worrying over nothing. LL probably has that clause in its ToS simply to stop people putting porn pics as their profile shot, and doesn't care at all about what tasteful kinky info people have in their profile or what groups they're in so long as they don't contain swearwords in the group names.

That each profile is personal does not make it private. It is accessible to the public and utilized as a communication tool as well as relaying information about the individual. Anyone needing to access your drop box will have to click on your profile. That would include a teacher providing you with class notes & materials, a business person seeking to provide you with a product update, someone making an inquiry about land you own or products you make. The list of reasons one individual might contact another for impersonal reasons is endless. That would be my guess as to why LL would have chosen to establish this standard to begin with.

Happening upon porn or obscenities in SL or the internet does not make me or baby Jesus cry. I don't judge people for their personal kinks, am not upset by nudity, nor do I cringe when I read vulgarities. I respect people's pursuit of their own fancy. I endeavor to mind my own business even though it is difficult when such business is placed in my view. TMI. Being an adult or does not equate to uninhibited exhibition. Chafing from restrictions placed by social convention and common courtesy doesn't strike me as mature.